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I am curious to know if belief in a god changes as we age and get closer to death. I am 84 and my non belief has remained unchanged since my teen years, if anything, my non belief hasbecome stronger.

alon 6 Mar 26
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I studied to be a Pentecostal preacher and suffered for years with the guilt that comes when you fall away from that. Actually, it was bible study that helped me not to believe. A close look at how we got our bible and just when and how this all came together shows without doubt that it's all nonsense. The older I get the more I am convinced of it. Others seem to think getting older should make me change my mind and "go back" to their god. Wrong! How could I ever go back to that? It's my belief that many who do are persuaded by a love interest that causes them to change rather than becoming a believer of the invisible man in the sky.

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The only example of this I can think of is Anthony Flew, who went from atheism...to maybe deism (there were rumors that he seemed to deny)...to maybe theism (he seemed to be wishy washy about it when asked)...to deism again...to advocating Intelligent Design be taught in British state schools.
[en.wikipedia.org]
In any case, there are many who think his muddled thinking on this issue is a direct result of his aging.

I remember believing Jesus was real the same way any other person was real when I was 4-5-6. I figured eventually I'd learn how or why this magic person was real...although I think I always put a mental asterisk next to the "reality" of that idea until I could learn more. I went to Sunday school around 7-8-9, and was the only kid in my class actually interested in anything they were teaching. I wanted to know how it was real, how it mattered, etc. But no one ever explained it in any way that made any sense, after which point I would entertain the idea the way I entertained other philosophical or fictional ideas. I labeled myself agnostic, until I had a discussion with a Calvinist college professor, which cemented my atheism.

From my experience, anyone who comes to atheism via reason, research, and (lack of) evidence only very, very rarely ever converts back to any supernatural god belief. (That's why the Anthony Flew example seems to be age related, as the reasons he gives for his change of mind were ALWAYS there, and he certainly had to ALWAYS be aware of those [bad] arguments. Why they were suddenly compelling to him in his 80s defies explanation.)

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Mine too, then older I get then more I think it is all nonsense.

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consider yourself fortunate. i really believe that at the end of their lives the "believers" have the most doubts & suffer accordingly.

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same here. i realized at age 15 that there was no god, and i promised myself then to reexamine my beliefs periodically. i've kept my promise. still no god.

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My first career was as a licensed Embalmer with well over 1,000 embalmings to my credit. I did considerable thinking about rhe whole religious thing when preparing these bodies for viewing, burial or cremation and never changed my non belief that I had established earlier.

alon Level 6 Mar 26, 2019
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I am 82. As a teenager I was an uncomfortable believer. I had read the bible 3 times from cover to cover, with growing questions every time I read it. By the age of 18, I was an agnostic. Education, military service, exposure to a foreign culture, and intellectual puruits of my own gradually moved me toward atheism. By the age of 30, I was an uncomfortable atheist who feared death. At my current age, I do not fear death, and I am absolutely certain that there are no deities, heaven, hell, or afterlives.

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I would think that any substantiated / supportable belief would change only in response to new evidence or understanding. I don't know what age would have to do with it.

Many fear death as they age and get closer to it. or have guilt for past misdeeds and feel a deity can absolve both.

@alon Oh yes I understand that but I would suggest that fear of death or of judgment would only occur in people who hadn't thought through their existential situation fully.

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Looking forward to total peace & quiet...nothing I have read about Any "heaven" sounds even remotely enticing.

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I haven't changed in the slightest, on the contrary!

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The old saying "there are no atheists in a foxhole" was probably started by the religious nutters who started the war which made the foxhole in the first place

@Allamanda That's really interesting, thanks for posting this. I had a look online and apparently the Moravians are one of the oldest protestant sects and originally were from Moravia in what is now the Czech republic.
I chose the name as I was raised in the county of Moray in N. E. Scotland and I vaguely remember that our school magazine was called "The Moravian" Absolutely no connection to your Moravians

@Allamanda Nice to know if I was ever to make it over to what sounds like an idyllic part of the world.

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My non-belief is strong enough to benchpress a Buick. I become more convinced with time, not less.

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I gave up on religion at 11. Have not thought about it seriously the whole time I have been alive. I doubt that the proximity of death is going to change that.

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My non-belief gets stronger.

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I can’t speak for others, but I am 76 and I’m saying the same things about religion now as I was saying at 26.

For me though it’s not about belief or disbelief. I am awestruck with the mystery of reality. Belief and disbelief seem inappropriate.

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