Of course, I would join my favorite person's group. Just didn't see dear. I am now. thanks

I meant you not Bernie when I said favorite if it wasn't clear.

The entire system is designed to keep people like Bernie out of office so they may send out trolls or it could just be that millions of people have lost any hope the system can be changed, this is also by design. They know the people united can do anything they want.so it's important to make people feel like they are powerless. The people are usually divided but Trump has created an opportunity to unite the people since now both sides are pissed off. The right has been pissed for a long time. The 2 sides just haven't realized they are pissed over the same things at the core. Bernie is someone who can unite them in their shared anger of the system. Most people don't know history so they don't realize that a window has opened that will allow for the change we all seek to happen. It will require a force so large they can't stop it because they will deploy all their resources to stop it and they have vast resources.

I really like Warren myself but she has shown a willingness to bend to the parties will so I have concerns she will not fight like Bernie. This fight is going to take someone that can't be bought off so you had better really trust them because that will be tested. I just do not trust anyone like I do Bernie.

@JesseBoren my hero's wear work boots I don't trust any of them.

@Tooreen Just because people work a regular job doesn't make them a hero, besides I never said anything about heroes. Who is the one really has idealistic views even though they are negative? I'm not looking for a hero to save me, I'm looking for someone to change the system, no one else has the movement behind them to do it, so anyone else that gets in will be doomed to fail no matter how much they want it or fight for it. A single person can't change things, not even if they are President. It will take millions demanding it, not a hero.

@JesseBoren reread your comment about warren and reinform yourself about negative bias

@Tooreen no human is free of bias

@JesseBoren Granted on bias, "just because "people working regular jobs actually keep's the whole system ticking ,if you listen to Bernie its this group who will bring about change. Negative idealism sounds like someone been tortured

You have no clue what you are talking about, stop listening to the establishment BS. He was a mayor before he went to Congress. His policies are supported by 80% of the public so it doesn't matter that a few people that enjoy the system that has made them so well off don't want a change but this country doesn't work for most of us. The policies of the 2 right winged parties we have now are a disaster for most Americans. You try to put another establishment sellout in there again like Biden and hand the election to Trump. The party is so stupid they don't understand they turned their backs on the people that put them in the office so they serve only their donors. At least the Republican party is smart enough to know they have to take on the social issues to create a base. the Dems only base is people that are afraid of the Republicans so they get people to vote for a lesser of 2 evils. Well, that isn't working for them, that's why they have lost over 1000 seats across this country. Letting the 1% make all the decisions is what is dooming this country and the world.

@JesseBoren Jesse you nailed that. I couldn't have said it any better.

Any American that supports this type of foolishness should go to venesalia and stay.you are traitors to these united states and useful idiots of the demorat left heil killery comrad

@Vintenar thank you

Aside from voting for Bernie in the Primary for the Democratic party, I don't think people in the USA are going to even be voting for him to be president, so I don't think you will be missing out much there, unfortunately. This is just a guess on my part, but considering what they did to screw him out of a chance at the Presidency last time I'd be pretty shocked he gets to the general election as the candidate for POTUS.

@Vintenar

I understand why you're saying that but I feel things are going to change dramatically this time.

We'll see!

@Athena Yeah I hope he can get enough support to get over 51% of the Democratic votes because that will be the most likely way he will be able to avoid the second round, which will include the super delegates, and allows them to make the decision who is their candidate.

The trick this time to make sure that he doesn't get 51% is that the DNCC is allowing 20 some plus candidates to enter and run for president which is going to dilute the votes away from Bernie. There are pretty good progressive candidates in this race as well that will hurt his chances to get that 51% of the vote in the primary.

@Vintenar They want you to feel like that. It's true they will try, they are already doing it but as he explains in the video if we mobilize enough people they can't stop it. Usually, there is no way the system can be changed but history proves when enough people are united they can't be stopped. this is why they have to keep us divided. The people are pissed off enough now they are starting to realize they are more united than it seems. This window to make a change won't stay open long so it's vital that people that want this change must get off their apathetic ass and help change the fucking thing instead just sitting back and bitching about how things can't change.

@JesseBoren Both me you and others know this, but many many people who vote Democratic don't realize this and Bernie has been on the wrong side of some issues as well in the past. One of the things that irritate me about him his that he pushed the Russia gate propaganda (lies), he didn't Support Tim Canova when he ran in Brower County against Debbie Wasserman Shults, and he supported Hillary. I get why he had to support Hillary, but it still is bad political progressive cred in my opinion.

I do like Tulsi Gabbard and worry that she is going to gain steam and take some votes away from Bernie. In many ways, she is better than Bernie, but she doesn't have the prior support form the 2016 primary run like Bernie has.

If republicans are to have any chance of beating trump they must put forward the centrist of ceentre politicians - that person will easily take the left of the electorate while being able to carve away at the centre right. An out and out leftie will be doomed before the race starts

@JesseBoren You could not have said this better. ♥

glad your not fool

@ShadowAmicus That's exactly what Hillary said and look what happened to her. The fact is Bernie would have beat Trump then and now. The center you talk of isn't center at all. It's only because we have 2 right winged parties now there is no center or left allowed in the govt. Obama only won because he used the same populist message Trump used, it's only because we live in a bubble we think its all because of racism. That's all the news talks about so I believed Hillary would win until I forced myself to listen to his entire speech, as soon as I did I knew he would win well before the election. That's what both sides want at their core, so someone like Bernie would unite the 2 sides unlike any corporate democrat would. I can tell you there is no way in hell I will ever vote for another sellout I don't give a fuck who the other person is, even if they find Satan himself. I'm done with their lesser of 2 evils because it's still evil. I will not vote if I can't vote for someone I actually respect. Have you noticed the corporate sellouts have lost over 1000 seats across this country yet you still think that strategy is going to work, Who is really delusional? Elect another one and you hand it to Trump period.

@Vintenar There is no one that will ever make decisions everyone agrees with. There is no one I can't find things they have done that I don't agree with. I also know there is no one that has the history Bernie does, no one I can trust that will fight for the change we need like I do with Bernie. That doesn't mean I will agree with everything he will do. We can't really understand the complexities of maneuvering thru the political system to get things done so I do give them some room to compromise at times as long as I know they are truly trying to do what's best. I like Tulsi but I do not trust her with this one because she doesn't understand that system like Bernie does. Same with Warren. I would happy to vote for either but their campaign is about getting them elected, Bernie has made many choices that tell me he is trying to build a movement that can actually work not just get him elected. He doesn't see it being about him, that is so fucking rare I can count the numbers of times I have seen it in my lifetime on one hand, holding a joint.

@JesseBoren Hilary came very close, She had some serious problems - fictional claims she made about her past - an ex president husband with monica, etc left her wide open to ridicule drip fed through the media. Trump had a masterful marketing line with america first that carried him through. A clean cut 'Hilary type' could win --- I don't believe berni can - he is offering change, very unfamiliar change - that too many people will be afraid of.

@ShadowAmicus You live in a different class than most, the people that voted for Trump were not afraid of change, they wanted to throw a bomb into the system. That anger is much more widespread now than just the right wing will only grow as the success of the system creates more and more inequality. That class is very, very large now and will only grow. Bernie is a centrist in any other Western Nation so your claim he is so radical is only true in a system where the Democratic Establishment is so far right of the people. A true left wing person must really scare you but in a healthy democracy, every voice should be heard. What's really scaring the establishment is they can no longer keep them silent.

@JesseBoren
This is so right!

@JesseBoren Not just a different class - a different country - but will be deeply affected by whatever direction America takes.
Bernie may be centrist in world terms and if the world had a vote he could win - but he is left of centre in America....I believe too far left to be electable, but only time will prove anyone right
PS Once Hilary was caught out with the helicopter landing under fire I called the last election for Trump and I called the UK Brexit vote - both unexpected winners, but both where the public lost faith with traditional politics.

@JesseBoren, @Athena Democracy - the great thing is that everyone gets an equal vote and the downside is - that everyone gets a vote. Back in Athens every voter was Athenian and it was part of their culture to be knowledgable and involved in political argument and events, so every voter was capable of making informed opinions. I would suggest that that is no longer the case in most western democracies, where many voters struggle to even name more than a handful of politicians and have little concept of the policies proposed - but they can remember who their parents voted for, which is the choice of many. The move toward change is slow and difficult to get started, but Trump managed it and the inertia is in his favour.