Thanks. So, in conclusion, is it accurate to say, impulses and feelings are no indication of morality. The choice of either acting or not, is what defines whether or not a person behaves morally?

I agree with almost everything you said. But I don't agree that behaviors are always learned. I think, for example that some children behave much more morally than their parents.

Oh, so what you are saying is that morality is the action or inaction, more than the feeling which lead to it. This is what I am trying to understand. I intended the post as an open debate about whether or not being commanded not to do something actually does anything at all? If certain feelings are natural and intrinsic to the human condition, I think learning impulse control is more effective than the guilt Religions instill.

@friendlycatlady Are you jealous or envious of your friend? There is a difference. Jealousy can become self destructive, envy not so much.

I like to personalize my posts in order to make them more relatable. The example I have was intended to be one example of something Religions tell you is immoral, but is actually intrinsic. I'm not real actually jealous of this person. It is just sort of a passing flash of jealousy but I thought it was a good example.

Really? Struck me as being a whole lot of whining and justification for self-indulgent behavior.

@KKGator I agree with regard to the content but there was a recognition of the problem to overcome which is unusual with typical self-obsessed discourse. Of course,it needs to be acted upon which is a different matter entirely!

Exactly. There, you said it! Religions dictate not to have "sin" in our hearts! This, however, is not only impossible, but is also no indication of morality!!!

"Thou shalt not cover your neighbor's wife" was the Commandment I had in mind, when equating jealousy with morality.

@friendlycatlady It's "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife", and the bible is the LAST place anyone should be looking for morality.
The 10 things god doesn't want anyone to do is just a list made up by men. It has fuckall to do with any kind of morality.

@KKGator I know how to spell covet. Just a typo. And that was exactly my point. Thanks for reaffirming exactly what my post is actually about.

And please explain why you think I need professional help.

@friendlycatlady Just going by what you said.

@KKGator You shouldn't be so quick to make statements like that in less you are qualified to diagnose and they are warranted.

@friendlycatlady You made the statements that led me to the response I had.

You said your jealousy has made you not want to stay friends with her.
You said you didn't understand why she found a great guy and you haven't.
You even said that you believe you are more attractive, and even that hasn't helped you.
You have conflated "morality" and jealousy.
You described issues you have, which would likely benefit from professional help.
I stand by my suggestion, it was warranted.
Good luck to you.

@KKGator I guess by making the post more personal, I opened myself up to criticizium, although you were the only person who interpreted it that way. In my opinion you are rude and frankly, wrong.

@friendlycatlady That's fine, believe whatever you please.
Just because I'm the only person who interpreted it that way, doesn't make me wrong.
It also doesn't make me rude to have expressed my reactions.
Directness is often misinterpreted as rudeness.
Guess that makes us even.

I hear ya, but I don't think my behavior is really the issue. I think we have certain tendencies early on, that are neither bad or good, but forecast our future in social aspects. Some people are just more outgoing than others. I was always a loner. I don't think I can change that. But I have learned to, at least APPEAR to be more sociable.

@friendlycatlady and you sound like a loving person...but, keep in mind people who give deeply, need more time alone to recharge...otherwise we are depleted! (In case you are an introvert.)

Well, actually, our friendship goes back to our childhood, but we more recently discovered that we had both moved to the same small town as adults. At first I was thrilled, but somehow it fizzled out quickly. At this point, I feel that something else is toxic in our friendship, and I also think that is why most people gravitate towards a romantic relationship over a friendship. I can understand that, but can't help but wonder I can't find the same. She and I had other issues and disagreements. I think it is easier for people to get along with someone of the opposite sex, who maybe doesn't judge or compare themselves to them.

@friendlycatlady friendships can change...especially from our childhood. We sometimes grow in different directions! You keep mentioning things that aren’t agreeable in your relationship...look at both sides and see why it isn’t comfortable...then go from there. Maybe, you see yourself as a good person (possibly better than friend), and can’t reconcile why you cannot find a meaningful match? There is simply no easy formula for relationships, as I can find (and I have studied these things), some that work great for others, would do me in, etc!! Find ways to make yourself happy and if a relationship comes into that picture you will have one...if not you will still be happy anyway! Best of luck, either way!

@friendlycatlady you deserve happiness the same as any one of us...but it, like most things in life must be worked for...give the things that make you feel real to yourself...your priority! Then you will get some of your needs met.