Should we respect other people's beliefs? I'm not asking whether people should have the right to believe what they will, but if a person's beliefs are superstitious, ignorant, hateful, or factually wrong do those beliefs deserve our respect?
People have the right to believe as they will. But, once they openly put their beliefs into the public marketplace of ideas, those ideas are and should be open to challenge, refutation, and earned disrespect for being flawed or wrong-headed. I draw the line when one attempt to force his or her ideas on me.
There isn't an answer that reflects my feelings. If their beliefs are 'superstitious, ignorant or factually wrong' I say leave them alone. We hate it when believers proselytize -- I don't think it's any better when nonbelievers do it. As to 'hateful', I might contradict any hateful statement, but again I wouldn't preach unless they are suggesting some violence. Then, I'd just contact authorities. (I didn't say I was brave!)
I will respect a persons right to have those beliefs but not necessarily the belief.
Nothing wrong with superstition, ignorance or being factually wrong (whatever that means!). To oppress and injure others is. That includes animals, so by that token should we not have any respect for meat eaters.
That's reasonable. I have no respect for vegans, so that makes us even.
@KKGator I agree that many animal rightists can be a bit "in your face" but considering some of the appalling conditions that animals are kept in, both for factory farming and some zoos maybe they have a right to. I only know a few vegans and they are nice pleasant people but if I have a sly dig at their lifestyle choices they will respond.
@KKGator That's a pretty judgmental sweeping statement. I couldn't care less what you eat, and I certainly don't want to be judged for what I choose not to eat. I am not a vegan, but I AM an ethical vegetarian. That's my choice. I'm sorry if you find that annoying
@TheoryNumber3 Way to take it personally when it wasn't directed at you.
It wasn't "sweeping". Work on that reading comprehension. I don't care what you choose to eat or not eat. I just don't want to hear about it.
Whether you want to be judged or not, doesn't really matter. You will be. We are all judged over one thing or another.
Humans are judgmental beings. Whether they are willing to admit to it or not.
@TheoryNumber3 I'm sorry if you find that annoying
Hitler was a vegetarian. Those in his inner circle said his high bean diet lead to all manner of annoying bodily noises including thunder farts. It was not only annoying to others, it was annoying to him. He sought out a doctor who wasn't what he appeared to be. Instead the doctor was a feel good veterinarian. This lead to Hitler being introduced to feel good drugs which many historians claim affected his sanity.
@KKGator Yes you're very respectful of the people. I believe you said every vegan you've met is "incredibly annoying". Sounds like a sweeping statement to me. You're a little cranky. You sure you're getting enough protein in your diet?
@TheoryNumber3 It wasn't a "sweeping statement". It was a very specific statement. Every vegan I have ever met HAS been incredibly annoying.
I didn't say that was all of them, just the ones I've met.
Work on your reading comprehension.
I'm not "cranky", I'm just don't go out of my way to pretend to be nice to people.
I generally don't like people at all, and I'm not going to pretend that I do just to make anyone happy. Other people's expectations mean nothing to me.
My diet is none of your business.
This is not the time and issue to mince words over with politeness and diplomacy.
This may be a complex issue to others but I have clarity. Here it is.
We should respect people with other views including religious (although it is very hard to do)
We should not respect religious views no matter what. It is hard to respect (let alone agree with or accept) views that are not based on reason, science and humanity and are based only on blind belief, primitivity and brainwash.
We should do everything possible in this world to fight and destroy all religious beliefs for the sake of humanity and the future generations. The religions have done enough damage to people and humanity over thousands of years. They had their time and it is now over.
I will not be friends with and will keep my children away from them.
Unfortunately, while I do agree with the bulk of your statement, I don't believe it's possible to separate humanity from those who willingly choose to be deluded.
The majority of believers are entirely too stubborn to even consider they're believing in things that have never existed.
You don’t have to agree with something to respect people or the ideas . Things tend to work out smother when there’s mutual respect. Seems like this post is based on perceptions of right and wrong
No. I'm not questioning whether a person deserves respect based on their belifs, but whether the beliefs themselves deserve our respect based simply on the virtue of being personal.
@Sdusmith you// me can respect them , but respecting the belief is not necessary, but I guess one could ask themselves:! By not respecting their belief is that really just a excuse to judge them ? Seems like a play on words . There is a old saying “
Do not envy those who oppress you, and choose none of their ways “.
@Outsideit67 That's a Bible verse. But I don't think it's applicable here. I don't think it's judgmental or intellectually dishonest to say, " I love and respect you, but your beliefs are absurd, erroneous, and plain wrong." People are more than their ideologies. So I can find your beliefs ridiculous, and still show you the upmost respect as I disagree with and correct you.
@Sdusmith whether it’s a Bible verse or not is of no importance to me . It is seldom that people can separate the two . I have people at work say “ I like my new neighbor, but I wish they were LDS etc,. Once we label fragmentation is in motion, who I am I or anyone else to correct someone else on these matters. That implies a right vs. wrong premise. I am aware of many in my life that have varied views of creation, religion , spirituality , atheist, agnostic and so on . I respect their position but I don’t accept their belief. I don’t attempt to correct them as well . I’m not implying that you do either .
That’s kind of a loaded question. If you fine tune a part of the question as “should I respect someone’s hatefulness”, then no.
But why should any belief that doesn't conform to reality be any different? Personally, I find it difficult to respect the belief that a prophet rode to a magical place in the sky on a Pegasus. Or that a magician who was born when a ghost impregnated a virgin came back from the dead. Why are those beliefs more respectable just because they aren't in and of themselves hateful?
“We must respect the other fellows religion but only in the sense and extent that we respect the theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart”
H L Mencken
Lol I think Hitchens referenced that quote once.
I say respect their right to believe whatever they choose, but no need to respect any specific belief as it stands.
I respect and accept religions. Not against it, just not for religion. They are bio organisms or humans first.
By being an example, I may be able convert a few of them to moderation of everything including atheist. Wow 93% said no here, no wonder I am not popular here.
I think everyone agrees we should respect people, just not their ideologies.
Then how do I love most of my family or most of the world if I don't respect their Religion. I can't love without respect. Being fearless and a strong individual, I confront them at every turn if I don't agree, yet in a tactful way. When 93% don't respect religion here. While there are 80% of them everywhere. What are you guys saying you are disrespectful of most of your family and the world. You end up, with a serious attitude problem.
@Castlepaloma Again, you're conflating the beliefs with the believer.
Firstly, it's not your obligation to love everyone. It's perfectly justifiable to hate someone, or be totally indifferent to them. If that's what you want to do, that's great. But there's no rule that you have to love bad people to be a good person.
Secondly, it's ok to give an individual common respect and have no respect for their beliefs. People are more than their ideologies.
Everyone deserves their beliefs to be respected, along with their dignity and humanity, so I voted Yes. At the same time, that doesn't necessarily mean I want to be around them or that their beliefs should be enacted into our laws.
How about the belief that 2+2=5?
=5 or drill holes into their heads to be holly, I would stay away from.
I maybe the minority of the minority, but I treat all with respect regardless of race, religion, and etc.
I agree, people deserve respect. But that doesn't mean their belifs do also.
I think respect, in that you don't attack or piss on somebody without reason. Now, that means, said person gives me, whomever, the same respect. I'm using respect as a polite variant as I don't respect in the beliefs, but I do respect the person's right to believe them. Yes, there are many, very many, in the religious world who want to cram their thoughts and wants and beliefs down other's throats. Some want to control everyone's life with their laws. Now. For those people, they should have their arms broken off and shoved up their asses (ie Pence).
Respect is not a benevolent act on our part for the benefit of the person being respected. We re-spectate, or take a closer look in order to gain enlarged and more accurate knowledge for our own benefit.
Many times the opinions of the other person are as valid as our own but we will remain blind to that fact unless we are open to new knowledge or new perspectives. The worst bigotry is unaware of itself and parades as liberalism or some such.
Respect is definitely something we do for others, but I would agree, as social animals, it benifits us as well. But should that respect be given indiscriminately?
@Sdusmith when I respect it is because the subject is worthy of respect., even though we might disagree.
Everyone is logically worthy of respect by virtue of their existence as a consciously aware being.
People with ignorant, or reactionary views comprise a large segment of the population. Therefore, we must TOLERATE them!
Because shooting them on sight is a short term solution.
Tolerance seems like an unwise response to what you described. Why do you think that's best?
Of course you don't have to respect people if you don't want to. That's silly. Anyway, respect is a feeling you get about someone.
Not really. Respect is more of a set of actions or actions restrained. But respecting people doesn't necessarily facilitate respect of their beliefs.
it depends somewhat on what use people make of those beliefs. i knew someone who believed the moon landing was a hoax. he wasn't hurting anyone. i also knew someone who thinks jews run the world and he IS hurting people because he goes around purveying antisemitism (also infecting innocent young women with sexually transmitted diseases, but that's a whole 'nuther story). everyone has foibles. not everyone's foibles, however foiblish, are harmful.
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I think, that we should respect the person and educate ourselves so we can attack the thoughts or ideology that its harmful to the rest of the group, and be ready when someone attack our ideas, and defend them with intelectual arguments and teach how we represent our ideology in our normal life, that will show that it works.
You should respect all people and try to find good will and kindness towards them, respecting their beliefs therefore is not possible if they hold beliefs which are harmful to them and others. It is therefore impossible to respect people and their beliefs at the same time if those belief are irrational. That does not however mean that you should disregard the distress you may cause by directly challenging those beliefs, rather that it is better to persuade by example.
I think when someone hurts another for any reason that some action should be taken. The line between parental indoctrination versus parental rights is a difficult line. We have all been indoctrinated to a certain extent -- some of us have been able to learn other paths. In the instance of the measles anti-vaxers, I think the punitive response of a steep fine or segregation should be called. Parental right have no right when others are being harmed.