I can’t see that someone’s faith matters when they speak wisdom? Who can argue against this quote?

“The test of the morality of a society is what it does for its children”

@Geoffrey51 yet he's comfertable indoctrinating children into his faith. I see no wisdom in that.

It's morality is determined by what it does for ALL it's people.

@1of5 I suggest you look at Bonhoeffer in context.

I think if he had had the time he would have ended up atheist.

@1of5 He was comfortable with indoctrinating children. Against Nazis. In Germany. At the height of the regime. He was also comfortable with participating in an attempt on Hitler's life. He was comfortable with being taken away to be executed in prison.

I'm not saying that his belief in a deity was correct, only that it led him to a different set of conclusions than most Christians have. I'm saying that this set of conclusions led him someplace useful and courageous. Because of those conclusions, he was that rare thing--a Christian with actual moral fiber.

Again, why not read the article instead of being a smug ignoramus?

Incidentally, Einstein, it's "comfortable", not "comfertable", and it's "its morality", not "it's". "It's" is a contraction for "it is".

Apparently it's possible to be a fact-free, condescending know-it-all, or to spell and use punctuation in the proper way, but not both.

And I get the feeling you could reduce your original post to its last five words and tell us all we need to know about you.

@Geoffrey51 thanks for the suggestion, but not interested in him.

@MattChanning1 wow, like calling people names when they disagree with you and a grammar Nazi. Jackpot winner there. I guess I should apologize and beg you forgiveness for my dyslexia forcing me to rely on spell checker so much. It must be horrific for you to deal with. I'm so, so very sorry.

I like how you totally ignored what I wrote, and just decided to insult me instead. Classy.

Lots of xtians have moral fiber. They just happen to be people, not some rare breed of anything.

Why don't you take a look at how the church acted in that era before blowing off indoctrinating kids? Think that might ruin your fantasy?