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Does anyone else struggle with hating religion? It is a daily struggle, letting go of hate, as I understand its hypocritical. I consistsntly feel like the black sheep in my community, in my family and amongst my friends. I consistantly find myself hiding or diminishing my beliefs to make others feel better.

Kc2222 4 June 16
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For me personally I find it close to the same feeling I have for my divorce, I'm comfortable with living alone, but wish I didn't have too. Its alot cheaper and easier to handle than divorce, but it follows you around and haunts you at moments of weakness.

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I do not hate religion, or religious people. One of my closest friends was an army pastor (catholic himself) and we have discussions on morality, ethics, cricket, rugby, horse riding, cooking - usual discourse between adults apart from sex (taboo for catholics).
The prescence of god at a battle? If soldiers were helped to get through it by believing in a god - I am fine with it. That both sides claim gods support is enough evidence for me to know he does not exist.

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Depends on what you mean by "hate". I don't use that word in the casual way many people will say, "I hate broccoli". I find religion tiresome and annoying, but understand that eradicating it from society and culture is the work of centuries to come, and I'm going to die in a world full of presuppositionalist bullshit. So I don't waste energy on being all up in arms about it, anymore than I waste energy grousing about serialist modern classical music. It's easier to just not listen to it.

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I don’t hate religion....I try not to hate anything, hate is more destructive to self than to the object of our hate. In any case religion is an abstract, it’s a belief not an actuality. What I do dislike intensely is the damage that religious belief causes to the rationality and minds of otherwise sane and intelligent people, and when these people try to influence government policy with their religious dogma. On a personal level, I tolerate others’ views, especially those of friends who believe, but without disguising or watering down my own. I only confront others if they try to proselytise or tell me I’m wrong by not believing what they do, but that happens only rarely, and never amongst my friends or family,

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Being an anti-theist I can understand your feelings.... I don't hate religion so much as despise what it does to people. Religion is a catalyst for hate and bigotry so I prefer not to have the same fault as my enemy does and try to instead place doubts in the minds of believers through being better educated on their religion than they are. Just by quoting a bible verse they never knew existed places doubts in the minds of those who let some worthless bum who can't hold a real job tell them what to believe and thereby sends more preachers back where they belong.... Flipping burgers for minimum wage....

@Kc2222 Ask them why the family was forced to immigrate here and then tell them "oh yeah because the church is selling redemption to the gullible and owns most of the property there...." This is true I happen to know some people from there and most of the property they should have inherited went to the church. They are now tenants who can barely afford rent even though they are still working the land that had been in their family for generations while the local bishop collects the rents in a Landrover....

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Let the anger go it’s poison

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I can excuse people for being theist. They just don’t know any better. But when a professional theist spits out bullshit, knowing full well it’s bullshit, just to collect his pay, I do get offended.

@Kc2222 Well, they get paid for what they do. Thats what makes them a professional theist, There is a history of mega church preachers embroiled in scandalous activities to which jail time would certainly be appropriate. Yet they’ve made millions from conning others.

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The LDSers destroyed my 31 year marriage.

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not i. first of i don't hate religion. i hate that some people want to push it on me, either personally or through legislation or adjudication, but i don't hate religion. i think it's mostly silly, and i believe there are no gods, but why would i waste my energy hating religion? so no struggle either. second of all, i've been openly atheist since the age of 15 (and wasn't closeted before that; i believed in a vague god in a vague way and then realized how silly that was and stopped). so i do not hide or diminish my beliefs, political, regarding deities or in any other way on any other topic, to make others feel better. why should i?

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@Kc2222 it is the kind of fuel that explodes in your face. justice is served by passion but it has to be tempered with a cooler head too. hatred can poison everything.

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@Kc2222 who said anything about being submissive? are hatred or submission the ONLY two choices? and how did those hatred-fueled revolutions work out, if they were ONLY hating? cake, anyone?

every parent and every parented child needs to know that anger and hatred are not the same.

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Rather than go against ‘self’...respond with your lack of interest in any religion...people seemed to be stumped by this statement. Then discuss serious thoughts with people who ‘hear you’ and can understand. When I feel unheard by others, it leaves me feeling devalued...but religious people judge everyone by some yardstick of their religion. No need to share even your real self with these people...they don’t judge people by their personalities and traits! Their valuation comes from scripture...memorized and worshiped. Is that where you see your value?

@Kc2222 ...then you have everything you need to free yourself...

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Hate is not a word I would use, "PITY" is how I feel for the Sheep ,flock or any god botherer that crosses my path. Happily I don't know many Christians, most people I know would simply roll their eyes at the mention of such nonsense ...

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Why? I believe what I believe and let others believe whatever they wish as long as it doesn't infringe on mine or others' rights. I simply ignore people when they talk about religion, look bored, or wander off, until they learn to avoid to the subject around me.

@Kc2222 I don't react to religion like I "hate" it, any more than I would "hate" rats in my basement. I simply take steps to NOT attract rats, or interact with them. If the only choice is a religious clinic, it's still medicine, but, of course, religious therapy is always useless. The war against religion is fought at the polls, and with donations, not with emotions of hatred and rage, which only challenges your immune system.

@Kc2222 Like I said, arguing does nothing, but voting and donating do. Generation Z is the least religious generation yet, and things keep improving on their own, Being kind to Christians also works since I quickly saw, as a child, that my atheist friends were nicer than my religious ones.

@Kc2222 Sure go ahead and join the Trump haters. Hate seems to be the in thing now.

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I’ve never been religious so I don’t have any hate for it or much of anything really.

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Don't give in to the misinformed so-called believers

sean Level 3 June 18, 2019
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It sounds natural to hate an affiliation that ostracizes you for being not believing in their way. As many point out though, hatred begets hatred. It reminded of an old saying. "Holding a grudge is like drinking poison and waiting for the other person to die." Hate is the same way. Even so, if it's painful, maybe you should avoid it, or learn a new approach.

@Kc2222 I get that it's odd when smart people disregard obvious flaws in religious teachings. I look at it like any other skill or knowledge. Some people just haven't learned the lessons yet, and that's okay. After I was indoctrinated, it took some time to "unlearn" the nonsense justifications that are designed to fill those gaps. Maybe they will learn, maybe not. We all learn our own lessons, in our own time. You should be free to be yourself though, and so should they. But when that becomes oppression and judgement, that's a differ animal. Especially when it comes from those that you trusted. It's hard to navigate through that.

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I no longer have a struggle with the part that I once believed. I still have a few quibbles with how the believers that I once associated with still behave.

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No struggle at all. Religion is easy to despise.

Its effortless for me.

SCal Level 7 June 17, 2019
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It's normal to hate those oppressing us

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Don't hate Religion just have a sense of humor about it.

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The only hate is of their hypocrisy and racism those who don't do this I don't hate

bobwjr Level 10 June 17, 2019
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I don't "hate" religion. I just try to understand where it comes from.

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Speaking personally, hating something implies expending negative energy toward something and religion doesn't merit the expense. If I invest a lot of myself in something, I can easily get rattled if it's attacked. With religion, there is no investment, so any discussion on my part is from a position of calm comfort, which I find can be much more aggrivating for the opposition.

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I don't hate it, however, this bothers me when after I have told them my standing and they persist to try to force me to listen to their inane rhetoric this is when I go on the offensive.

azzow2 Level 9 June 17, 2019
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Religion is, hate, fear and war. In some ways I support church burnings. I was hanging out with some guys I met at a slayer concert. Told them to burn a church we drove by. I was joking mostly. They got gas, and I talked them out of it. Yes, i fucking hate religion. Most brainwashing bullshit ever.

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I do my best not to hate anything and I direct my mind away from "hate" if I find that I can dwell there. Do not give these things opportunity to thrive. Your thoughts are you. They become you.

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