My daughter, like me, is agnostic. Her boyfriend recently told me, "That's why they call it faith!" when they visited me last week and the subject of who wrote the bible came up! I love making christi-trons think about their own belief system!
The greatest thing the devil did is making you think he doesnt exist.
Why argue in the first place? Hopefully I’m Secure enough in my stance that when i visit with anyone they leave presently have to question their own beliefs. I stay focused on the similarities and engage them to view other perceptive. So it’s not me who changes their minds I just watch as they widen their venue. From time to time I visit with the terrified who’s need to be right is embedded in survival mould. It’s because their not secure in their beliefs and will fight to the bitter end to prove that they are. I don’t need to go there, so I listen because that’s what they need. When your old you wanna fight less.
My favorite is "fuck you". When I push them to that, I know they are done.
I feel sorry for you that you won't be joining the rest of the family in heaven...
Ask them to describe heaven and explain what goes on there. Their bible says very little on it. In fact, most of what you read is simply implied but remains vague.
@DenoPenno Actually, the person that said that is very intelligent and educated...her answer was that it was not a place but an unknown that we can't possible even imagine...she acknowledged that it might be just a bunch of protons floating around but that somehow, our sentient beings would be enough to see each other in various ways...she does not think it is a place...that heaven is a metaphor for the next phase of existence....I asked her why I had to believe in a god to get into that existence....no answer
@thinktwice What next phase of existence?
@DenoPenno nothingness...death...darkness...return to photons? exactly...very vague
"The enemy will twist words and sow the seeds of doubt, as they will speak with the tongue of the devil".
In my work, I support a service user to church about twice a month. They encourage me to take Christ into my heart, but so far they have failed to tempt me. The guest preacher on Sunday was very entertaining and spoke well, even if he identified the likes of me as the enemy. Each part of his argument strengthened my atheism.
The thing with the one true God, is there are so many of them!
Guest preacher! Oh what fun! That's like having a substitute teacher. Get an accomplice, a convincing glass bottle of water, some baking soda, some red-tinted contact lenses and a crucifix. Have accomplice put in red contact lenses, mix baking soda with water and put on mouth/shirt for frothing look. Run into church yelling, "Father! Father ! I need your help with this exorcism! The power of Christ compels you!" If said accomplice can crawl upside down on walls- bonus!
You'll be sorry when you're dead.
"I doubt I will, as I will be in a state of nothingness, but I sure am sorry I ever spoke to you". Bah-dum.. Tip your waiters and waitresses, I'll be here all week.......
Scientists say" people came from monkeys"," why are there still monkeys today?"
Why don't they learn to google? [abc.net.au]
"How can you have hope and joy when not believing in god?"
I’lL pray for you that you get a better understanding of truth?
This puts them in the power position, (and they feel that they are on God’s side).
Emboldened by the belief that God is on their side Christians have some of the greatest atrocities of human history. for example the conquistadores when Mexico were Christians.
even in Vietnam the chaplains told us "that God was on their side"\
normally intelligent kind people find themselves doing evil Deeds believing that they are doing the will of God.
Stealing that meme.
"Where do you think you'll go, when you die?"
Ultimately Back To Nature. when the brain dies everything connected with it dies.
and we return to the food chain
Who says once I die I'll have to go? Maybe I'll be able to hold it.
"I can't wait to see you burning eternally in a lake of fire so I can't point and scream, 'I told you so!!'"
nice values...wanting to see people in pain and misery...bunch of hypocrits...