I try my best to be tolerant, I drummed tolerance into my two sons when they were growing up, but there are some things of which I am becoming increasingly intolerant...and I don’t like it. I know in this world of really troubling events this may sound extremely trivial, but I really get annoyed at the number of people who are unable to pronounce the “G” at the end of words. I’ve just heard a woman interviewed on BBC who used a lot of words ending in “ing”, not one of them pronounced properly...nearly put my foot through the TV set, but managed to exercise more control than I felt!
Do any others have similar pet (and petty) hates?
I watched a recent u tube documentary by a well known British scientist who stated we do
change the way we speak. I hadn't thought about it . But this and other posts show that
as with everything modern- its RAPIDLY accelerating. The title is" Is the Human
Brain a Computer?"- it explores memes and
other uses of the languages. Part of the
facts are it's uncomfortable while it occurs,
but it shows that the language is viable
with a heathy "life of its own" forced to EVOLVE .
Great post, thanks
In keeping with how people speak, I find it irritating when people try to sound smarter by using certain words, when the words are incorrect.
"I feel badly for him" is incorrect, yet I hear it all the time. "I feel bad for him" is correct.
You don't feel sadly for him or look prettily for him. Feel and look are linking verbs.
The other is the frequent and incorrect use of the words, me, myself and I. People are afraid to use "me" even when it's correct.
"Feel free to call John or myself." Grrrrr.
You wouldn't say please feel free to call myself, so "myself" wouldn't be correct just because John's name is added.
And we will keep things between you and me, not you and I.
All these grammatical mistakes annoy me too. I wonder about the teaching methods, and whether that is where the failure to speak good grammar originates.
This is what baffles me. I didn't hear these things when I was a teenager. Errors in grammar were most often heard from people who hadn't had the same opportunities for education. I'm very accepting of that.
Highly educated people are causing this "myself" epidemic. I promise you that many people here, who read the example I provided earlier, don't believe it was incorrect and use it often.
I see this in almost every company letter or email I receive and it's used in every presentation I hear. I used "me" once in a document and it was "corrected" by a colleague. I gave him 5 pages of grammar corrections, highlighting the 5 grammatical errors he made on a frequent basis. It was as though everything he knew to be true had been shattered. This man is a Harvard graduate and his mother is an English teacher.
He also says, I went to dinner with she and Mike." *cringe
I was born in Italy. English is my second language and my parents always struggled with English.
My English isn't always perfect, but I wonder...if someone like me can learn to speak and write properly, what is the excuse of someone who was born in an English speaking country and has a Harvard education?
Is it possible that so many people had their educations bought by celebrity parents?
@sweetcharlotte
I promise you this is not the case. These are people I know well.
Grammar and speaking aren’t worth getting annoyed about, at least not here in TN, but of course, some irrelevant things bother me too.
innit feckin orribul - Bad enough to hear from a speaking voice but when a singer can not enunciate the text of a song it drives me nuts ......c'est la vie
Nucular
Vunnerable
Puripheal
Spelling?
@AstralSmoke No, it annoys me that this is how many people, even well eduated ones, pronounce them.
People who talk loudly in public libraries. And any form of mindless redumbdancy!
I like new words!
People who park their carts or stand in the middle of the aisle in a grocery store, to where I can't get by on either side. Drivers who start their turn, and then and only then turn on their blinker. Trump supporters who can't bring themselves to acknowledge what an asshole Trump is (or who don't care).
Absolutely.
@Lilac-Jade To all three? Or to one in particular?
@MST3K As I don't drive, so that one takes third place for me but the others, yes.
I use a mobility scooter in the store, & it is annoying when people must stop in the middle of the aisle to visit with one another.
@Lilac-Jade Sometimes people don't think. It's a good idea to simply try and be aware if you might be getting in someone's way.
@MST3K I work hard at making damn sure I don't, especially with the scooter now.
Your commit made me think of people who stand in doorways and chat.
If I were to compile a complete list of my pet hates, it would fill all the servers in the world and crash the Internet.
I’ve a long way to go to catch up then!
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That affectation (dropping the "g" ) is a mark of a very upper-crust birth & education in the UK, or it was 30 years ago
No I’m afraid you’re wrong...,it’s always been quite the reverse. It’s called Estuary English....from the Thames estuary., and Essex in particular, but has spread over the entire UK. It’s really just a dumbing down of the language,
@Marionville It is also very common in many Southern dialects...I find myself doing this when I am in the South...I look at it as a way to conserve energy...it is so darn hot that we shorten as many things as we can..drinkin' ice tea on the porch, walkin' the dawg, sassin' the kids, fixin' to go out, lol...it is lazy talk to many...
@thinktwice It sounds kind of right in a Southern drawl....not in a horrible Northern English accent!
@Marionville I do it, all the time, without even thinkin’. Unless, I’m in certain more formal situations. Then my grammar and pronunciation clear up, and I trim cursing and words like ‘aint’ from my speech.
On the other hand, I’ve been known to increase my drawl and slow down dramatically for effect. Most speshially with folks who ah treatin’ me lahke us suhthon folk ah stupid.
@CarolinaGirl60 Again, I am so likin' you and caint wait 'til we meet...ha ha ha
It is indeed associated with the upper crust - also known as the "huntin' and shootin' set" - as well as with the "lower" class.
Due to the fact that I speak crisp RP, people tend to assume I don't like Estuary English but in fact it doesn't bother me at all. The same goes for Multicultural London English - it's especially amusing when you hear the kids round here speaking it on the way home from school with their friends and then hear them using RP similar to my own when shopping in the village with their mums on Saturdays.
@Marionville I don't believe I've ever heard anyone I personally know, and maybe not anyone, pronounce the "g" on the end of an "-ing" syllable. They say, e.g., "RUN-neen" or "DRIV-een", pronouncing it like that. (I live in the United States.)
@Matias No...I think it’s still only the less well educated who drop their Gs. None of my friends do, or my family....my son is constantly correcting his children. We all have accents, depending which part of the country we live in...it’s the dropping of the G’s and the sloppiness of slurring the T’s that I deplore.
@Matias, @MST3K Myself and all my friends and family pronounce the G at the end if words ending in G. I think it denotes a sloppiness in speaking the language, just because others are doing it doesn’t make it correct,
@Matias Thanks for the link..it’s very interesting....I always thought that the upper classes only dropped their Gs when they were trying to pretend that they were just like the lower classes...it never seemed right and true when done in a “toff” accent. Maybe I’m wrong, but I live in the UK and most people still pronounce the words ending in “ing” correctly, although it’s becoming noticeably more common to drop the G.
@Marionville Just to make sure I understand correctly, could you write out or spell phonetically, to indicate exactly what sound you make when you pronounce the "g" at the end of "ing"? most people here do not say "fishin'" or "goin'" .. or at least the majority (including me) do not. I just want to understand your point clearly about the pronunciation of the g.
@MST3K If you say fishin or goin then that is dropping the g. That’s what I hate. Fishing should be pronounced fish-ing..and going..go-ing.
@Marionville I see, thanks for clarifying. No, I do not say fishin' or goin' I think I do pronounce the g, and most of the time, when I hear words ending in ing, most people do pronounce the g. Sorry for the confusion.
@CarolinaGirl60 I was born in the south and moved to the Midwest in my early 20’s. Took quite an effort to learn the word can’t instead of cain’t!
@AstralSmoke @Marionville I actually do pronounce some ‘g’ sounds. I do say going, fishing, finding...it’s maybe not as much of my vocabulary as I think. I’m more relaxed with it around people I know best, generally other Southerners.
One UK thing that interests me is the R sound added to some words. Kiera Knightley does it. Instead of: ‘I SAW it’ she says ‘I sawr it’. Lena Headley too.
Language is fascinating!
@CarolinaGirl60 That is another particular hate! Grrr!
@Marionville ummmm, from a lifetime e of reading English murder mysteries (Dorothy Sayers, Agatha Christie) I can assure you dropping your "g" was an affectation of the huntin' and shooting' and fishin' set, all activities limited to the wealthy classes. Even used as a clue in a couple of stories!
@AnneWimsey That is possibly the case...although it has not been my experience of living in the United Kingdom my entire life. I know that I’ve read that sort of dialogue in books by P.G. Wodehouse and others, but in actuality I never heard the upper classes speak anything but very proper English...in real life, and I worked for a Rolls Royce/Daimler dealership early in my career, where a large number of our customers were members of the aristocracy.
Littering. It's not petty.
For decades, I have been picking up litter.
Endlessly cleaning up after other people.
Oh...you’ve just hit on another of my pet hates! I have to go out to the edge of my property which is at the corner of a main road and a side lane and pick litter thrown from vehicles every single day!
Yes, we all should hate littering. I find people who drop their cigarette butts on the ground annoying, especially if there's a garbage can nearby where they can throw it.
Yeah no excuse for stupidity
What if they’re born stupid?
@Marionville
It’s like this, lol. Unfortunately.
I don't think you are intolerant about such petty things...you have a wonderful sense of tolerance from what I have seen...annoyed, perhaps...but small things in life are what seem to get us most!
We would be here all day if I listed mine...ha ha...
I think I would have loved to see you attacking your tv...
I resorted only to verbal violence!!