I hooked up a couple of weeks ago with some Wiccans on a private site. I did practice Wicca back in the day when I was trying them all out ( except Scientology or Mormons . Those peeps are nuts.) I liked the practice and the women I was gathering with. But it doesn't work. By work I mean WILL IT GET YOU WHAT YOU WANT? I'm disinterested in what some higher being might have in mind for me. I'm amused by the saying "There are 2 ways to be unhappy. One is to never get what you want. The other is to get it." Chaos seems to rule right now, and I really could use a break. I know not to appeal to any deity, a waste of time for sure.. Maybe a letter to Bill Gates? Maybe line up 12 others before the next full moon ?
Wicca is a fun thing to do, if you can find 12 other like minded women to practice with. I enjoy shocking people now and then. I attended a workshop on Croning a long time ago. I was telling a friend about it, and said when I went in to the meeting room I found myself surrounded by Wiccans. She said what is a Wiccan ? My daughter, always helpful, said WITCHES. My friend looked surprised for a minute, then said "oh, you mean women that think they are witches." I replied " in much the same way that Baptists think they are Christians." There are people that believe aromatherapy or acupuncture will help them. There are people that believe psychotherapy will help them. Believing is the magic word. In retrospect, I probably shouldn't have believed the Orthopedic Surgeon and I dammed sure could have skipped the colonoscopy.
I joined a Wiccan Atheist FB group - you had to answer questions to get in? Than I got in and walked back out.
Turns out they believe in spell work. That baffled me.
They wanted me to know that essential oils are woo - but they believe in spells.
I thought maybe they were an empowerment group that liked ritual - not that particular group!
Also crystals are just pretty! Nothing wrong with gathering with like minded people. However you find them.
"Believe" is the magic word. When I was first introduced to Wicca, the premise was that thought and intent could change the course of circumstance. 13 women gathering with the intent of working together to change course is intriguing. That the world is our mother. We are made of her elements. But does it work? Sometimes. I've seen a nudge do a job, but not with enough frequency to hold my attention. I like the idea of it. Plus I have not shocked the neighbors in months.
@ForTheBirds There is a belief in Quantum Physics that when you watch an experiment the outcome will be different. {Dual-Slit Experiment}. If you put it on a par with that - it's believable.
To think you need special words rather than intent? That's woo.
Just my humble opinion.
There are a lot of atheists who think we may live in parallel universes etc.. It pretty much runs to that sort of theory.
Along with folks who think we may live in computer simulations.
Something I'm intrigued by - but I won't spend the rest of my limited time here trying to figure it all out.
I have two main thoughts on Wicca. 1: It's every bit as much a load of bollocks as every other religion. 2: Its adherents seem to be free to practice it in whichever way suits them, and they don't go around telling people who follow other religions or those who, like me, think all religion is bollocks, that they're wrong. Nor do they persecute women or gay people.
So, to sum up, I'm perfectly happy to associate with Wiccans provided they don't go waving healing crystals at me or anything like that. I was even a regular customer at the local witchy shop, back when I lived in London, but that was largely because they sold really nice flapjack and had a couple of very lovely cats.
I don't expect any more of Wicca than I do of any other religion. Nothing except it's fun and I haven't done anything to shock the neighbors in at least a year. Knee replacements and a walker are not good in the woods and the dark.
@ForTheBirds A lifetime of arthritis has left me somewhat reluctant to dance sky-clad on any wind-swept hill-tops, but fair play to the maidens and mothers that enjoy all that stuff. We crones will be waiting in the pub afterwards.
The corollary to two ways to be unhappy is don't want.
I want the fucking car to run without spending my last cent.
Standing on your own two feet and making your own choices based on logic and empathy with other humans is what you need to do. Find your own path using your own instincts, forget about any of that other mumbo-jumbo, is my advice,
Logic and empathy do not work well with the internal combustion engine, nor any of the parts that make it move.
@ForTheBirds Who mentioned a vehicle? Not you.
@Marionville Yes, I did. In response to a guy that said the corollary to my quote on being unhappy was to not want. A common Buddhist belief I'm familiar with. I said "I want my fucking car to run without spending my last cent." My ability to believe is less than zero. Docs and mechanics are new additions to my list of those making proposals that I should doubt.
If you think praying/chanting/spellcasting of any kind, instead grit & actual hard work, is going to "get you what you want" good luck to you!
If I knew how to replace my brakes and solve the leaking of power steering fluid you can bet your ass I'd be doing it myself.