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One of the most confusing thing I deal with as an atheist is Christians asking me in public ( work mainly), do I believe in Jesus? Does anyone else deal with this? If so how did you handle this? I’m tired of being polite to these people. I now respond with a smile ( I’m at work) that I don’t discuss politics and religion while at work. The already know the answer, so why ask. Next person is going to get the rudest response ever. I don’t care anymore

AngiePoo 5 Sep 4
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Asking someone if they believe in Jesus is rude and asinine. It's a no-win scenario, and thus, an excellent question. Before responding, I'd just reiterate that Christians are all about lying to themselves to deal with their cognitive dissonance. Also, they lie like the dickens when they witness to each other. It's a Liar's Club. So, to a big extent, your choice of strategy mainly depends on your personality, values and the circumstances. All that said...

  1. Say that you do and lie back to them. But be ready to tell them a story about why you're not interested in joining their prayer meeting or church. Maybe say you don't like how different Christian sects run each other down, so you only pray privately rather than wearing your religion on your sleeve (like Jesus says).
  2. Say that you're afraid of being fired for discussing religion while at work.
  3. Say that you were molested by a pastor and will never let yourself get into that situation again.
  4. Tell them that religion is a private, personal matter and that you don't want to discuss it.
  5. You can say you do or don't believe in Jesus as far as that has meaning to you.
  6. Try to confuse them by asking them which Jesus: Jesus as God, Jesus as prophet, the Baptist Jesus, the Lutheran Jesus, the Catholic Jesus, the Eastern Orthodox Jesus, ad nauseum.
  7. Etc.
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I'm blunt and concise.

"I have been an atheist since age 13, when I realized the Bible is just a book of stories written by men."

Favorite smart-aleck replies-

"I don't believe in an invisible being that resides somewhere beyond the clouds."

"I chose rational thought, not magical beliefs."

"I stopped having imaginary friends at age four."

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One of my favourites is quoting Douglas Adams: Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?

Never heard that one..love it.

Solid

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Me : I don't believe I Jesus. do you believe in dragons ?
Them : dragons aren't real.
Me : exactly how I feel about your god.

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Perhaps just smile and say an agnostic doesn't have a need for Jesus, but yes there are a lot of men called Jesus in South America and a lot of women would believe in them. See how that goes down. They just want to convert you or start an argument.

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As Carl Sagan said: "I don't want to believe, I want to know".

Love this quote.

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At my previous workplace I was asked about that several times and I kept deflecting until I had had enough... I finally said, "Why do you keep asking me this? Are you in a cult or something?! Is this something sort of weird recruitment ritual of yours that you have to keep browbeating me about this? Have you met Ms. ...... in HR? I bet she would love to hear you ask her this same question over and over!"

The shocked look on her face was so satisfying... She never asked me again but she also never spoke to me again.

Double win!

BTW- I live in MI and some of these Christians are relentless... I have 2 friends I've known since high school who are deeply religious. I came out to them around 1985... They tried their best to convert me to no end.

Since then we are simply friends and they never bother me about it.

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Response: Do you believe in Santa Clause, the Tooth Fairy, Leprechauns?

Alternately: I have been saved . . (a short hesitation) . . . . from Christianity!

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The situation reminds me of being pulled-over by a cop when you know your rights, but it's just not going to help you to tell the cop your rights. I like your simple response: "I'm at work".

Thanks. It’s the most uncomfortable feeling ever. Just in the middle of a conversation, like 🤨

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Question: Do you believe in Jesus?
Response: You mean my sister's boyfriend? Yah, he's a trustworty guy.

Question: Do you believe in Jesus?
Response: Jesus who?

Question: Do you believe in Jesus?
Response: Depends on how many martinis I've had.

Question: Do you believe in Jesus?
Response: Is he the guy who hangs out at the North Pole?

Do you believe in Jesus?
I believe he's a combination of fictional and dead.

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Tell them you believe "Jesus" was right about religion being a private matter.
Matthew 6. 5
"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men."

Sometimes it's easier to use their faith against them.

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Yes, he lives down the street from me. I believe his name is pronounced "hey-sus," though.

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On the nowadays very rare occasions when I get accosted by the odd annoying Xrstian ( Faithfool) I usually respond with, " Jesus, you mean the real FIRST ever fan of the Nine Inch Nails, is that the bloke your talking about?"
Their reactions ARE truly priceless and YES, I am a very 'out there' Atheist.

Love your defining Xrstain as Faithfool. Brilliant.

@NoMagicCookie Hey, feel most free to use it anytime, anywhere you wish, help spread the word.

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Are these coworkers asking? Or people in the general public?

Depending upon who is asking, I’ll usually just say I’m not religious....it’s less scandalous than outright saying you’re atheist. That being said, I’m pretty open about being a heathen so unless I’m concerned that it could affect how I’m treated at work or something along those lines, then I’ll just say either I don’t believe in god or that I’m atheist.

At one of my jobs I had 3 closeted atheists confess they are too but “can’t” out themselves. Usually for familial reasons

Well today it was just a customer ( go figure). Not the only time it has happened so that’s why I’m annoyed now. I only had one employee ask and I told him it’s personal and he changed the subject. Don’t think I’ll get fired if I reply that I’m a heathen so I use that option next time and see what happens.

@AngiePoo I would probably be less likely to say anything to a customer. How/why the hell would a customer even bring that up?

@Marcie1974 the religious are pushing in court the idea
of religous rights to extend to company policy.-health clinics
and family planning/ wedding cakes for same sex marriage
they want to pick who or what they serve.

@BBJong I’m aware of that. I’m just saying, if I can’t afford to lose my job, I’m not going to be rude to the customers

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Just wink at them and say, "I believe in YOU!"

Then walk away!

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Religious people are simply people who are deluded into believing the unbelievable, so treat them gently. They are, in a sense, mentally ill because they believe there is another world out there somewhere. They are best ignored because it is a waste of time because whatever you say they sweep it away with their broom of faith. GROG

GROG Level 6 Sep 4, 2019
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I deal with this daily at my hospital job. It's frustrating but I have to remind myself that many people there are in fear and looking for comfort or solace.

I do not shy from answering though, as my entire staff knows my beliefs and that if they are going to talk about theirs I will talk about mine.

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I don't have to deal with it any more. I guess my beliefs are pretty clear. The other day a younger woman approached me after a coworker shared her beliefs. The younger woman whispered to me that she doesn't believe either. When I pointed out that I didn't say that I don't. She laughed and replied, "You didn't have to say anything."

JimG Level 8 Sep 4, 2019
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My response will depend on the person asking. If it is a young physically healthy assertive person I switch into a rather happy (big smile) mode and confidently respond along the lines of: "I believe in Jesus like I believe in Voldemort, they both exist as fictional storybook character with supernatural i.e. MAGIC powers. The common response from them is often something along the lines of - "Oh you must be an atheist. That means you don't believe in anything." I love this assertion as I get to correct them with, "On the contrary, believe in things that can be demonstrated. I simply have a higher standard for truth then theists. Religion is based on faith asserted as truth. I don't accept faith (claims asserted as truth without supporting evidence) as demonstrably true (thing that can be demonstrated) as this is dishonest and I will not lower my standards for truth to accommodate ridiculous faith based fact-free claims as having testable merit. - - they usually run away after that response but occasionally come back a few days later for another round where I get to knock them around some more. . . . 🙂

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Not so much at work, but my response to those wonderful people (smirk) who show up on my doorstep on Saturday mornings is to tell them that I agree with Reza Aslan that there probably was such a person, but that, given the 2000+ years since he supposedly lived, his narrative has been subject to significant fluctuations and likely bears no resemblance to the many versions currently attributed to him. One example to demonstrate difficulty in communications is the telephone game, in which participants are instructed to relate a story through a sequence of individuals. As it gets passed from individual to individual, the story usually gets pieces added and dropped. When I've seen this exercise performed, it rarely exceeds 30 people and is pretty well mangled by the end. Now, imagine that story passed from person to person over the course of 2000 years and how many people? By the time anyone thinks to start writing things down, how much would you expect it to remain consistent with the original version? Thomas Paine wrote Age of Reason over 200 years ago and even then, he was recognizing inconsistencies within the bible and what a mish mash of random pieces it represented. So, sure Jesus probably existed, as did Hammurabi and Genghis Khan, but once you start deciding what their thoughts were about various topics, you start venturing into speculation, lore and fantasy; you've lost site of facts.

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I just say "no".

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If you really want to be polite, be honest. I would give them a brief answer. "I'm evidence based. Not faith based." But I've been "out of the closet" for some time.

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I would counter the question with some snarky question like do you believe in Quasi Moto?🤣

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Luckily I work with dogs. All they ask me is, "Do you have treats?" I rarely come across situations where people might ask me if I believe in Jesus, thank Dog. Religion is a subject rarely discussed. If asked, I usually just answer straight NO and leave it at that. If they don't want to leave it alone and start an argument, then they will get the whole works from me.

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And.....that's why I wear this!:

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For a long time now I have given the same answer as I give un-solicited salespeople........."no, and I'm not interested".....most often gets the job done, without comming off as confrontational..

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