I agree with you-master of blackmail.

Barr also I think.

@silverotter11 no, I think Barr is just a fan boy. The Senators were very outspoken critics of Trump when he first started running. Now all of a sudden they can’t suck up the shit he spews fast enough.

@Barnie2years Spot on there my friend. Barr may just be a fan, for me the jury's still out.

I do not want 2 more years of the OrangeIdiot! Okay, edited...20 minutes!

I guess you would let a bank robber get away with robbing the bank because if he was stopped and arrested you might not be able to deposit your paycheck while the police were arresting him. Letting someone get away with flaunting the rule of law and denying the Constitutional right of the House to investigate it sets a most horrible precedent.

@AnneWimsey I can't give you another. So take this...

@Barnie2years if I knew in advance that the bank robber had the judge and jury in their pocket and would not only get off scott free but be rewarded after it was all over.

There comes a time when reality overrides emotion.

@moosepucky, this has nothing to do with emotions and everything to do with rule of law. Trump has broken it, overtly and with disdain. The more corruption the House exposes, the more moderate Republicans will turn on him. The Democratic Party needs to stand behind what is right and follow the law. If we don’t, we are no better than the pathetic criminals of the Republican Party. The Senate must have a trial if the impeachment process is voted positive in the House! If it distracts the Democratic Party presidential race, imagine what it will do to the Republicans! Trump will not likely be impeached, but once out of office he will be ripe for criminal prosecution. Since when does doing the right thing, regardless of fear, become a negative?

@Barnie2years

When?.... When it gives someone like Trump another term with a majority in both houses to do his bidding.

@moosepucky, so in your mind Trump was right when he said he could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and no one would care? Because we fear his base more than we fear having a criminal in the office of President? Because we should wait another year and hope we can find a candidate that can overcome all the shit he will throw at them with whatever countries he can get to help him out, because, what the heck, there are no consequences. Thankfully a majority of House Democrats are not in fear of doing their job: upholding the Constitutional separation of powers and oversight.

@Barnie2years

No.

The risk is not worth the reward.

This impeachment rght before an election has 2 ways to fall. I

Left alone, trump will shove his foot so far down his mouth that I would be amazed if he received even 1 electoral vote.

Give him and his minions a "crusade" and it might be a landslide in the other direction.

In my opinion,

The risk: getting articles of impeachmented from the house and acquittal by the senate. This is even not a risk, it is a forgone conclusion. This will only make the whole process seem nothing more than a political move to influence the next election. This is the worst thing that could happen.

The reward: I don't even see one. Republicans control the senate. When push comes to shove no Republican senators will vote to convict. Score: Republicans 53. Democrats 47. Votes needed to remove: 67. Which 14 Republicans will vote against the leader of their party?

I do not like this but this is how I see it.

what makes you think he would abide by the results of an election?

@BitFlipper Maybe we will get hit by planetary debris and be vaporized. Solves the trump problem eh?