This is a rant about A frustrating situation that has arisen. And from it ive learned that ill never date a theist again.
I reconnected with an old high school crush. I was lonely and still coping in the after math of my divorce so being around someone i was close too was comforting.
Well...we became more that friends. We were happy. Until she told her folks about my athiesm. Then they pressured her to leave me. In fact in hind sight...im certain they even orchestrated the events that soon followed.
She went on about us being unequally yoked or betraying her god after seeing her parents. But alone...just us...there was none of that. But something seemed odd.
For one she kept mentioning kids. Wanting one....even took it upon herself to buy baby clothes for "just in case".
I was not ready for more children. I was quite content to never father another child again. My daughters from my previous marriage were plenty. But she begged...pleaded for a home a family.
She had me convinced we would always be together.
We found out she was pregnant. And soon she left. Cutting all communication within a few short weeks. Her father handled things between us. I gave back what stuff she had left at my place.
I was cut out. The babies first heart beat....i didnt even get called when the child was born. I feel used and frustrated because my questions go unanswered.
When the news was broke to her side of the family their reactions were less than supportive.
My family has doubts if its even mine. There were some red flags i caught i perhaps shouldnt have ignored. She still had Tinder on her phone and ex boyfriends would call her. Its not a slam dunk she cheated on me scenario but Im unsure how to proceed.
In the days leading up to what i would call our break up she became increasingly focused on my lack of belief. And seemingly upset i didnt want any religion forced on the child. I fear the worse if its mine.
i am not sure what the laws are state by state regarding paternity but on one of the court shows recently the judge said that a man has six months to take a paternity test and declare or deny paternity. i may be remembering it out of context, because the guy in question had declared paternity without a test, paid child support for a couple of years and then found out the kid wasn't his. totally different situation and i don't even know what state that was. but it gave me the idea that you could do some research and find out, regarding your state(s), and perhaps ask for such a test, and if the kid IS yours, then you may find you have some rights regarding that child. i don't think you would have a say religionwise, but you might be able to insist on contact. i am not going to suggest asking for custody out of hand, and even today it is difficult for a father to win custody. ir might not even be warranted and you might not even want that. but you should get your story told and find out what your rights are, and then decide which of them you wish to try to exercise.
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In other words: Find a good lawyer?
@twill well, maybe! but he can research the things i said without a lawyer and then if he wanta to proceed with any of those options that turn out to be available to him, yes, then he will need a lawyer. he doesn't have to waste his money to have one do what he can do for free with google!
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A woman who buys baby clothes " just in case" is Not right in the head!
Religion was not the only bad thing about this relationship, and you need a good lawyer! (Try Legal Aid if necessary!) Call today, learn your rights!
Baby clothes just in case??
WTF does that mean? You don't start buying dog food just in case you decide to get a dog someday. That was a BIG red flag.
In many states a single mother, not independently wealthy, will have to use Gov services for aid to said child, medical and so on.
They will do a DNA test in order to bill you.
IF you want the truth, go to human services and insist they do a test because you do not want to be a deadbeat Dad and don't know if it is yours.
If not you will need to force the test through courts.
A much more reliable way than Maury. I note you said single. In many states, including Pennsylvania the law states the husband WILL be the father. And, although a blood test my help in divorce, the state will still demand the husband's share of support, unless agreed to and changed in a civil case.
@Beowulfsfriend Not only that but in Many states if the mom listed a man on the birth cert, it is assumed she told the truth and any testing is on you AND your on the hook till then.
To me, the cost to the kids in all this is horriffic.
If you didn’t want more children, why didn’t you use your own protection or have a vasectomy? You ignored her obvious references because why? Yes, unprotected sex feels great but is also the #1 cause of pregnancy.
Yes, you’re a nice guy, so you’ll try to do the right thing. Be prepared, it’s going to get worse.
Did he state he did not use protection? It is important to remember condoms are not 100% protection against pregnancy... if they were I would not exist right now! heh
@demifeministgal True, but 99% is a pretty good safety record.
@Atheist3 Are they 99%? I thought it was lower... though admittedly I have not read a condom box recently.... okay I found this data online: "If you use condoms perfectly every single time you have sex, they're 98% effective at preventing pregnancy. But people aren't perfect, so in real life condoms are about 85% effective..."
In relation to whether this guy used protection I am firmly agnostic. I cannot say for sure. But I doubt it because he didn't say so in his rant.
Three words: A preemptive vasectomy.
@OldMetalHead yeah, if he’s only 30, that seems a little young to get one.
@OldMetalHead good point, just realized I was 35 when I got sterilized....my kids were 11 and 9 at the time and I knew there was zero chance I’d want more. Plus I have depression and having an infant would have been absolutely debilitating to my mental health.
Why does 35 seem so young? Lol. Funny how age works and the ages you used to think of as “old” now seem young.
Firstly, I'm sorry you're having such a difficult time. Divorce is hard enough as it is.
Especially when kids are involved.
Just from what you posted, I'd definitely be demanding an independent DNA test.
Just because you haven't been asked for child support, doesn't mean it won't happen.
It's possible that you were used as a sperm donor, or as cover for a pregnancy fathered by someone else.
In any case, please make sure you are protected. If the child is yours, and if you want participation in the child's life, you need to be prepared to fight for it. Sounds like she and her family would attempt to use your atheism against you.
Sorry you're hurting. Perhaps some professional mental health assistance would be something you could avail yourself of.
Good luck going forward.
I'm very sorry you're going through this. I'd say there's a lot more going on here than her theism. While I could never date a theist, her behaviour goes well beyond being a person of faith.
If you can, remain distant and free yourself from these crazy people. If it IS yours, your atheism will have freed you from any responsibility, as they won't want a "devil worshipper" anywhere near this child.
If you decided you do want contact, you'll be able to get it.
Right now, take care of yourself and thank your lucky stars she's gone.
You should get a paternity test by court order. This way, you know the facts and can plan from there. Talk to a lawyer, emotions get in the way, let them handle the messy stuff. Don't answer the phone if it is her or her family, just tell them politely to call your lawyer.
This is more than her being religious. This is also about her being immature enough to allow her parents to have control over her. As others have mentioned, I would find out if the child is yours -- you have that right, and if so, you also have a right to have a relationship with that child. Other than that, although I know it hurts, you are better off not being in a relationship with her.
This is not your child .
Congrats . U avoided a good deal of bleeding .
This one will return if the current idiot who she plays house with , smells the rat that she is . Then u will be bothered again . That will be the time to have a paternity test done and shut her mouth for ever .
Your atheism was never the issue . The next / more convinient / $$ penis was the issue . She found it / secured / u had to go .
I am so happy for u . Congrats !!!
Tinder and ex boyfriends? just be happy she is gone.
Hey there @Charles9488, are you going to even consider acknowledging any of these really wonderful responses here?
People have taken the time to support you. I know you have a lot on your mind, but it would show some appreciation if you would hit the "like" button at some point.
And I don't mean me. I already have my agnostic.com pen and T-shirt...
Just saying.
I would need a sense of closure if I were a man in your situation... I would not leave her be until I knew if the kid was mine. If it were, I would then have to decide do I want to be in its life or do I just sign away my parental rights. If she is unreasonable and would not allow me to see my child, I would have to involve lawyers and the courts. Good luck to you in this situation it is a messy and tricky one for sure.
You didn't say how long you were with her, but is there a possibility that she was pregnant by someone else and looking to you as a prospective surrogate daddy to support he child? Then when the parents found out you were a heathen they put the brakes on that idea.?
My brothers ex did the same thing. Suddenly started buying baby clothes "just in case". My brother thought it strange since he had been sleeping on the couch for months. Nut case.
She sounds too controlled by her parents for her age ( I’m guessing she is around 30 like you). Hopefully, the baby is not yours and you can sever all ties to this unfortunate phase in your life. If the baby is yours, fight for a relationship with the child and a chance to counter the religious indoctrination to come.
Good luck. Try to look forward, not back. I too, tried to reconnect with someone I dated and broke up with when I was in high school. Turns out, I didn’t like the person he became. I liked the good memories, but the reality didn’t match up. I had thought it would be comfortable with someone familiar, like you mentioned. It seldom works out well. We should have left the past alone. Live and learn, I guess.
You'd have to persuade her to give the baby a DNA test to prove anything. Meanwhile, you could just be the patsy she chose to take the fall for an unwanted pregnancy, to win over her parents.