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Fresh amputee w post surgical infection , miserable as he can be , arrived w all the signs and symptoms of sepsis 🙁
Protocol initiated for such situation and blah blah blah , stable the last 6 hr and will part as he will move on to a medical / surgical floor . On my last assessment time , he says :" u know , I wish I could kill my self . I don't want to live w one leg . "
I am thinking , suicide precautions , click the boxes , call staffer , get a bedside sitter , psych consult , click , click , click . I am thinking , I can give my premade standard speech , gods , I am even f tired of this speech , I can't imagine about the patients and their tolerance . Instead I asked him , y u dident do it ? He said : I am Pentecostal . In my religion that's a big sin . I won't go to heaven ".
I am thinking , where the f u think u are now , if that's not hell , then what . But kept mouth shut . Is his depression speaking , acute depression , and also my anger every x I hear the religion factor . Boys and girls , I am sitting in my car on a coffee break , once again , what a f liar I am . Oh I am great . 🤢 I gave the man the most religious talk u ll ever hear . Where do I find that shit , m I crazy ? I told him that god has a plan . I told him that things will get better , infection will go away , will fit for prosthetic and all this will pass . I told him to take one day at the time , and to stay strong to his faith , and that yes , suicide is not a good idea . Then I called the chaplain , that useless pos who I hate , and he ll take it from there . Bottom line : my pt s face was lit up . He smiles . He said he ll keep going . I feel like I gave birth throu my mouth , a baby that looks like shit . I am discussed w self but at same x , I know that the 64 yr old man he feels no lonely tonight . To me , that's important . In the big picture , I fed him lies . Where is the line btwen empathy and truth . Where is the limit ? I don't f know guys . 6 more hrs to go , come on 0700🙌🦇🦇🦉🦉
Thanks for listening . I hate my life !

Pralina1 9 Nov 7
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If lies are used to hurt, hell, they should sometimes be used to heal. Nice work.

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Do not berate yourself for any so called lies. Cause here's the deal: you may think what you told him was a big fat (religious) lie - but in his world those were not lies at all - they were affirmations of his own faith and belief system. You gave him the emotional equivalent of a huge shot of antibiotics. He was feeling abandoned by his God.....and I suspect he does not have a good emotional support system in his life so, yes, you were hearing the "depression" talking. At 64 - most people fully realize that they are entering life's "third act"....and that alone can be a lot for some people to handle. You gave him exactly what he needed - at exactly the time he needed it most. You are a credit to your profession....wish there more just like you! 🙂 🙂

No , he is alone . Two random kids that seem to be very busy 🙁 That's the impression I got . I agree . Feeling good today ♥️♥️♥️

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To say that God has a plan is not necessarily a falsehood. It all depends on what is meant by “God”. It’s like saying that everything in nature happens for reasons and that things will work out for the greater good. Your being there to express concern was of the utmost importance. In times like that human contact means everything.

In contrast to your story, once I came into a campground and saw a guy trying to put up a large tent, so I went to help. In the course of conversation he told me that he had come to have both his legs amputated the next day. I was struck with horror and could hardly talk. He consoled me by saying that everything would work out and that it would be no big deal. “If God wants me to die, I’ll die”, he said.

Damn!

Oh wow , speechless ♥️

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To be honest you did a brilliant job there. Who gives a rats arse about truth or bullshit if you get someone the other side of the dark space he was in.

Now you need the same for yourself. So remember you do a job that many of us here couldn’t imagine and if that torchlight in the darkness gets someone through its for you as well.

Bullshit rules when delivered properly.

Proud of you, keep pushing through because you have a very special talent. 😇😎🤪

That made me feel really good . Thank u .

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That is a very hard situation. I totally understand. I’m in law enforcement & I struggle with that same scenario most days. I have also been on the other side of having a long term medical problem that was so painful I wanted to die. I really did not want to die, but there were times the pain was so much to bear you feel like your only option is death to make the pain stop.

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Pralina ....is it possible to take a different approach that let's you stay more true to yourself? I am not a medical person nor could I be....maybe take an approach about what gives them joy in life ? Another sunrise, family, grandchildren ......i would have a hard time as well saying things i didnt believe.

But your heart was in the right place .

Hang in there.

Yes . That's what I regret not doing , exactly . I have no idea y I open mouth and lied like a 5 yr old . But it worked man . I am gonna add this to my basket of " it is what it is , whatever makes the ill happier ".

@Pralina1 you did fine, its a hard job. Whens retirement?

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Don’t be so hard on yourself...you did the right thing in the circumstances. There are times, and this was one of them, that going along with the pretence of belief is the kind and therapeutic thing to do. To tell him that you thought his religious belief was rubbish would not have been appropriate or desirable. I know you to be a really caring nurse, who is very good at the empathy part of your job, being a good actress too is sometimes also a requirement and you also seem to be good at that. You left your patient in a happier state of mind, less likely for his thoughts to be suicidal, I’d say that was a very successful outcome, wouldn’t you? If his illusions are keeping him alive so be it, better to be deluded than dead.

Actress . That's what's bothering me tonight , well today as we speak . But I know it was right , I know . I just wish I had said less about his god and more about life / kids / grandkids / stay alive deal . I feel like a took a cheap shot . Of course glad it worked . U are right . I am thinking too much and no need for it .
Good morning Ms Marion . Music music music 🙌🙌🙌

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Thanks for venting aloud. You have given an interesting perspective on telling white lies. You leave me wondering why you hate your life. Clearly, you want a different life, but why do you think a different life would make you happy?

From your story, it seems your life is not as repetitive as a factory worker; thus, boring. Your job as a nurse or doctor probably pays well enough that you aren't struggling financially, and the story does not mention $. People can be happy or unhappy whatever they do. Yesterday, I saw a billionaire cry tears over the possibility of paying Warren's wealth tax. Clearly, great wealth does not guarantee happiness. At the other end of the spectrum, Buddhist monks, who beg for food and own almost nothing, are typically hap or content. The billionaire can do almost anything; whereas, a monk has a repetitive life.

I just learned about a medical meta study that correlated food with mental health, especially depression and bipolar.

Smiling, even a forced smile, produces hormones that make you happier.

Exercise typically helps one be happier.

Meditation may help.

Believing in a god is a technique people use to make themselves feel better. Although you don't believe in God does not prevent you from developing a technique that makes you happy, perhaps a form of self-directed humanistic-psychotherapy.

Of course, venting helps.

@Pralina1 I just watched this video...very melancholy.....have you heard of michael franti? His songs and videos are a bit more hopeful.... helps me anyhow.

@Pralina1 try this video I don't know maybe it makes you feel worse.

@Pralina1 I love this.....but then again I know I'm a weirdo. 😉 😉

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You did great, sometime we just swallow what we know is the truth and tell someone what they need to hear.

I know . But still . Lies . I could had just activate the system , say something generic and not put a show . U know what I mean . But at least it seemed to work . I still activated the system . But u know ? Man .

@Pralina1 You know you did the right thing. Pet the puppies when you get home.

@glennlab i love u too Mr Glenn .

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If you have doubts contact me will message you my number am here for you

I am ok bob . Just venting . Considering changing my profile name to " ERLiar". I am fine . Thank u thou .

@Pralina1 anytime you know that

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You did right it is his belief system and will get him through bravo honey you did right . Our beliefs are not his and his state of mind needed reinforcement that will get him through . Saw this in the army and critically injured soldiers the state of mind can determine outcome. You are a empathetic caring woman and nurse you upheld your oath to do no harm. Do not ever stop being you.

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You did both your job and followed your heart. You helped someone through a very tragic and frightening time. Those were the words he needed to hear, and that was all that was important. You should feel good about what you did, and that is all you should feel.

Exactly!

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