That’s really cool @CallMeDave the above link is about being spiritual, but not religious

Yes, it’s an interesting site, possible aimed at educating believers as to alternative thinking in a non threatening way; whereas here they’d have their eyes gouged out within minutes of posting any foolish questions lols!

that’s incorrect though. agnostic is a modifier. there are agnostic theists and agnostic atheists. an atheist simply doesn’t believe in god; they don’t necessarily claim knowledge that there isn’t one. that’s a gnostic atheist.

Like me, you could probably benefit by looking at the article then.

@basher yes, turns out I’m an agnostic atheist, but have always referred to myself as agnostic.

@girlwithsmiles same here! i learned the difference from youtube videos though lol

@basher labels

@basher, @girlwithsmiles you assume I haven't, incorrect. The article is an opinion piece, with validity similar to my opinion, for definition I look at dictionaries, but again I hate labels, I am a non believer and that's good enough for me and truly I could not care less what others want to call themselves.

@Mofo1953 yes i gave you the dictionary definitions

@basher not for atheist or agnostic.

@Mofo1953 atheist: a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
agnostic: a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena.
those are the dictionary definitions. i am an agnostic atheist because i claim no knowledge but have no belief in any god. that’s what the terms mean. it’s fine if you don’t like labels, but don’t misrepresent atheism, please and thanks.

@basher isn't the first paragraph of your reply what Ivsaid? Again, I couldn't care less what you call yourselff.

Which is the same as the link, lols, but thanks for making easier for people who have link phobias

@girlwithsmiles its easy to copy and share this way.

I’m not even going to attempt to answer that. I believe that there’s already a post about the Spiritual question, perhaps you could do a search? And what the heck is a woo?
Anyone else care to respond?

@girlwithsmiles Don't quote me, but I think 'woo' refers to magical, or something beyond observable reality. Curses, jinxes, charms and enchantments. That sort of thing.

@Captain_Feelgood oh, cool. Thanks. Learning lots here

@girlwithsmiles And I am pretty sure that includes Gods.

@Captain_Feelgood oh, well that puts another spin on it.

I completely agree.
I have stated many times why I identify as an Agnostic Atheist.
An Atheist, because I in no way believe in any kind or type of a deity.
An Agnostic, because I can't 100% prove it either way.
And I know I am not alone on that thought. I still don't understand how it is confusing to any one.
Just like you, I've had people argue with me on that point.

@Bierbasstard meaning some people do? Do we keep them in cages somewhere to visit?!

I honestly only knew about what the agnostic/ atheist difference was. I find it useful as people use the terms and now I know what they mean.
Didn’t mean to cause arguments, sorry you’ve had to deal with that.

@girlwithsmiles Sorry, I am not having a go at you, just the fact that theists still appear to have the default position and people like the author of this article is kow towing to them and giving them a position they do not deserve.

Buncha control freaks in the world...ignore them

@Moravian Oh, I just liked the diagram and the fact it explained some stuff I didn’t know. I wouldn’t know about the rest of that stuff, sorry.