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The new Tesla Cybertruck. The base model is cheaper than a Ford F150. 3 times the thickness of ordinary metal. Stainless....no colors. Bed covers up electrically. Tailgate has built in ramp. Wow.

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Robecology 9 Nov 22
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follow up; Elon Musk tweeted Friday that several "after market" features will be available, including black and white "coatings" (not sure why he didn't call them "paint" ), a camper cap, and a small all electric ATV, and 120 and 240 volt outlets, and an air compressor.

Here's an image of the interior...

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Looks like a cross between an angularized DeLorean and a Humvee. Quite ugly. But how does it function as an actual truck?

The back bed has a roll back cover. It just looks like a complete shell - it isn't really.

Please watch the video. Learn more at www.Tesla.com. Ask me for a discount code if you're ready to buy.

@Robecology I did watch that video. It actually is not that informative. I'll never buy it anyway. I'm in no position. As @Varn asked, can it haul a 4'x8' sheet of plywood or drywall? How is it at loading, hauling, and unloading gravel? A more informative video would be one actually showing it do these things.

@bingst

Compared to four-door, short-bed configurations, Cybertruck length is 231.7" which is same as Silverado and F-150, and 1" shorter than Ram 1500.

However, the Cybertruck bed length is much longer: 78" vs just 65" on F-150, 67" and 68" on the other two.

Width of the Tesla is the narrowest of the four trucks: 79.8" vs 96.8" on the F150. Height of the Tesla is the shortest of the four, by two to 3 inches.

In other words, it's the narrowest, and shortest in both height and length, but has the longest bed by quite a lot, and also the most interior room (according to those who rode in it last night.

Ground clearance is also much higher on the Tesla at 16" vs just 9.4" on F-150 and 11" on the Chevy and Dodge trucks. Approach angle and Departure angle also much better on the Tesla. (Big advantage to not needing a center differential.)

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It looks like something from a low-budget "Mad Max" knock-off.

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It looks like something that was designed in Google sketchup by a 12 year old.

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I like it.

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Really big bed”...? That’s been my recent peve about all ‘trucks’ - where’s their beds?! Can I haul a 4’X8’ sheet of plywood or drywall without it hanging off the back..? ...doesn't look like it 😟

Stainless, copper, or cheap steel brake lines..?

I’ve still got an efficient rock-solid & reliable Toyota truck to wear out.. But it likely holds more than this cyber unit. Glad someone’s pioneering the field … only wonder how it’d do ‘in the field’ ..harvesting sweet potatoes after the Fall rains 😀

Varn Level 8 Nov 22, 2019

There's a good chance only the base model is 2X4 (single engine version), with the next model up having 2 motors (1 per axle) and the deluxe having 3 motors (probably 1 motor for the rear axle and motors for each front wheel). With the right tires it should handle mud pretty damn well, I'd think, with computerized tradition control. Forget what kind of clearance it has. Body looks to be much more durable than a standard trucks, but it has lots and lots of fancy features to break.

If I ever win the lottery I'm going to off-road a dual motor model 3 just to see if it can keep up with my buddies land cruisers. Probably won't, but it'd be fun to try. 🙂

@1of5 Can it crawl outta this like my Ram I wonder?

@Davesnothere I know my ranger can, so imagine itd be able to. Have to try it out.

@Davesnothere, @1of5 My Toyota PU had been voted 4WD of the year the year I’d bought it… I’d put it up against this concept truck 😀

@Varn I have the 5.7 Hemi with 4WD and a standard Cab witha 6.5 bed. Small and powerful, I have yet to spend the money to really play with it. Crawls through Blizzards just fine, which is what I need, Blizzards and Mud and Tourist, the main seasons of Maine.

@Davesnothere and @1of5 ; Remember; it's battery powered. No "engine" to "warm up". E.V's are performing much better in snow and cold conditions than similar I.C.E.cars. No oil to heat up. No water coolant to "anti-freeze".

"Overall, electric cars are more efficient than gasoline cars because an electric motor is much more efficient in turning stored electricity into motion than an internal combustion engine is in converting the chemical energy of gasoline to mechanical energy."

[blog.ucsusa.org]

@Robecology OH I am all for full on electric, I just also want clean electric generation. Without it Teslas vehicles create the same problem the toilet does "out of sight out of mind".

I thought that we should make a mylar heat resistant ballon shaped like a car that inflates behind your car from the exhaust, so people could SEE it driving and realize the VOLUME of air pollution we create.

I own a beast, but I did not need an oil change last YEAR. I don't drive the beast much, it is a tool. The best way ALL PEOPLE can reduce thier personal footprint is to drive less. A LOT LESS.

@Davesnothere Dave; this is a serious misunderstanding that many who don't know the facts assume;

"Teslas vehicles create the same problem the toilet does out of sight out of mind"
No...sorry....that's just not true.

#1. Even in coal powered communities, the coal is far more filtered and purified. The smoke that comes out of coal power plants (25% and declining in America, 30% and declining world wide) is #1 remote and #2 far more cleaner than the smoke from I.C.E. car engines.

#2. Water (hydro) and wind are rapidly growing. Nuclear is slowly fading, and natural gas is rising as crude petroleum also is declining as a power plant source. Solar P.V. is making inroads...growing much more in China and Germany than in the U.S. My Tesla is technically nuclear powered...no CO2 smoke at all, but a frightening degree of heat pollution...but again...remote....at a power plant many miles away.

I do concur with your drive-less strategy. It's a critical strategy, IMO. [footprintcalculator.org]

@Varn that'd be a fun test. Be really cool to try different traction modes on the EV to see how much they actually change its abilities

@Robecology yes, and battery power means torque. Should be lots of fun.

In the proccess of buying a house and putting as much solar as possible on it (its in the sunny eastern side of the state), with extra capacity for EV charging. Then we get to decide on an EV. 🙂

@1of5 Ask me, when you're ready to order, for the discount code. Right now it'll give you 1000 free supercharger miles...the offer changes every few months.

@Robecology thanks, I will. Be a few months, min till we do. Got Alzheimery folks to care for before we can actually pack up and go.

@Robecology ""Teslas vehicles create the same problem the toilet does out of sight out of mind"
No...sorry....that's just not true."
Sorry, but it is, even if all the things you say are valid about coal and so forth. let us assume all that is correct.

"The Union of Concerned Scientists did the best and most rigorous assessment of the carbon footprint of Tesla's and other electric vehicles vs internal combustion vehicles including hybrids. They found that the manufacturing of a full-sized Tesla Model S rear-wheel drive car with an 85 KWH battery was equivalent to a full-sized internal combustion car except for the battery, which added 15% or one metric ton of CO2 emissions to the total manufacturing.

However, they found that this was trivial compared to the emissions avoided due to not burning fossil fuels to move the car."

THAT footprint is so big (for all new vehicles) that you throw away green saving in carbon by trading in your functional vehicle.

So yes they save carbon in the long run, but like all trucks make a big footprint in its manufacture. Thus if you trade in your functional vehicle for e new Tesla, you make a big footprint which will take several years to neutralize.

So don't trade your good working vehicle for a new electric. Wait till you have to trade to avoid carbon, and then trade for a used one to lessen your footprint.

and the poblem of the toilet is still valid, as people think they are doing good, when in reality they are doing less harm. Less harmful does not equal; healthy.

@Robecology, @1of5 All that said, I think the ONLY hope for the human race to survive climate change is tech.

@Davesnothere Links? Documentation? Remember; I'm agnostic...show me proof or your comments aren't believable.

@Robecology You are aware we are living in the 6th great extinction event right?
[amazon.com]

@Robecology [agnostic.com]

If you still want links, ask, be specific about what you want please.

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Except the bullet proof glass was not bullet proof. One more bug to work out. Starts at 40 thousand.

Why would having bullet proof glass be a "must have" feature?

Big mistake to push the "bulletproof" thing. The glass is three times thicker, has twice the impact resistance of regular truck windows...but isn't bulletproof...just impact-damage resistant 50% stronger than most truck windows on the market today.

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@Burner Because city folk who drive trucks think trucks make them safer, so as a safty feature it plays into those fears.

@Burner I concur; I'm not sure why Musk/Tesla went all out on the radar avoidance/exoskeleton/bulletproof strategy....but apparently there's a demand for a tough truck....this one will be tougher - by far - than all the rest.

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Definetly going to consider it when the Ranger dies. Not sure which model ATM.

1of5 Level 8 Nov 22, 2019
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