He hates Bernie, goes ballistic over Greta ("she needs to be controlled"!!!!) Just another weird old white guy....probably on lawn patrol as we speak......

@AnneWimsey

Oh yes, tinkling on Bernie brings him joy. We've had it out many times.

He'll need to find a new pee target once Bernie wins.

The nature of euphoria is it rises suddenly and it dies suddenly. Just wait and watch how he goes up in smoke. Remember, you read it here first... Bernie will not be president. I will be here after the 2020 fiasco to remind all of it.

Blind faith in our heroes by nature is unreasonable and when you want it so badly, you don't hear the truths, you are not willing to accept the realities.

It is not a rocket science to understand why Bernie and Buttigieg cannot be elected. America is not ready to elect a candidate with these demographics.

1. Gay
2. Mormon
3. Atheist
4. Muslim
5. Hindu
6. Jewish
7. Self proclaimed white supremacist
   ............
8. A black president is also very unlikely for another 15 years. Obama was a very rare exception. He was very good, he came during a perfect storm (anger against Iraq war, against Bush and Cheney, also about Rumsfeld, serious economic meltdown, and a lousy candidate like McCain). This storm will not happen again. America's white majority will elect an average white candidate than a twice as good black candidate if all other things are normal. It has to be a perfect storm.

We don't like it? Too bad but that is how it works. Tell me which candidate like Bernie or Buttigieg was elected in the last 40 years for president. Name any. In our euphoria, we often deny the facts on the ground.

I believe ideas don't matter, there are talented and smart consultants and advisers in Washington to make plans, policies dime a dozen. What people look for in a leader for the highest office of the land is charisma, spark, personality. People will not elect an old, boring guy with challenging demographics for president, no matter how we argue or reason with it. America will not elect an old looking, hunchback, Mormon, Atheist, Jewish, Hindu or a gay president for at least another 25 to 30 years. It is still the expectation of the American society. Maybe not in France and other European countries. We are artificial people where botox, Photoshop, plastic surgery of boob jobs, nose jobs have become acceptable behaviors.

Isn't it true that Boris Johnson's witty, charismatic personality won in Britain over Corbyn? Even Tony Blair came out blasting Corbyn about making poor choices on policies and running a dull campaign? Who has been such as a boring PM in Britain in the last 30 years? Count John Major out because he was just elected by the Party to continue, the same with Gordon Brown. We both know that both failed.

There is no doubt that the right wing ideology that promotes nationalism, protectionism, anti-immigration on the rise around the world. Some are subtle, while are open and blatant about it.

I do process situations what I want them to be but I want to see where we are and what is most likely to happen. Bernie camp should have realized he has been struggling since 2016 and he is struggling again in 2019. A good leader does not need two runs and these struggles. Will Bernie have won against Trump in 2016 if nominated? I think not. In fact, the Democrat loss would have been in the history books, lesson would be taught in graduate schools around the country, it would have been embarrassing to walk in the street as a Democrat. Bernie with his socialism talk has brought us very close to that now.

@St-Sinner I think the US is more of a popularity contest than the UK. But you have elected a disabled and a black president
Boris is not that well-liked here (He did not win his parties leadership 1st time), just that Corbyn was less liked. You think that Bernie is socialist for wanting universal health care? (Btw every other 1st nation has this) Corbyn was offering free wifi ffs. It looked like Santas sack was overflowing and people smelled a rat.
Fyi just a few corrections;
John Major did win an election if narrowly.
Blair was not that boring, May on the other hand was so dull that she was nicknamed Maybot.
Nixon won the second time around and his landslide against MgGovern was I think a record.

@273kelvin
I agree with "the US is more of a popularity contest than the UK" and that makes a whole lot of difference. Bernie thinks his ideas are great. Voters agree with the ideas but not with his candidacy and his implementation plan of just taxing the rich. It is not getting to his head.

@St-Sinner Just checked the betting odds and Trump is now 10/11 that has lengthened from 4/9 a few months ago. BTW Biden is 5/1 Bernie 8/1 and Warren 10/1 (she was the front runner 2 months ago)

@273kelvin
Correct and thank you..... but this is not a new wisdom. The writing is on the wall for some time for the ones who want to see it without being blinded by stupid passion for the candidates or just denials.

He had a heart attack that he and his team tried to hide for some time. You did not believe me when I said that it is a good chance and if that ever happens, Trump will give him another heart attack in the debate. "Millionaires and Billionaires" rant does not work in debates.

@St-Sinner it was reported on I think every news outlet as he was being transported to the hospital!!! I have NO tolerance for such BS!

@AnneWimsey
You are a passionate Bernie supporters, you are not going to ask any criticism. You want Bernie to win. But I do not have any favorite candidate today and think Trump is going to win in 2020 sadly. I am pragmatic and prepare for what most likely is going to happen.

I said in the beginning that Beto O'Rourke will not be president. Some passionate member supporters accused me of being a Trump supporter. That is the nature of passion.

I said Kamala Harris will not be president, Tulsi will not be president. I think just like common people think. But when you are passionate about a candidate, your view is not unbiased..

@TyrionLannister Since we Democrats do not have a single candidate that has caught fire, can lead the pack undoubtedly after 7 months into the primaries and after the impeachment fiasco, Trump is going to win. It is the economy.

Don't take my word for it. The writing is on the wall. = Trump is gaining ground heading into 2020.... "As we close out 2019 and head into 2020, it seems that Trump is gaining ground. Beyond our poll, the average live interview poll shows significant movement toward Trump over the last two months. Biden's lead over the President in a potential matchup has dropped from 12 points to 7 points, which is still the largest advantage of any of the top Democrats against Trump. Trump picked up at least 4 points against the other leading Democrats since October."
[cnn.com]

I want Bernie to just go away, He has become a nuisance since 2016. He has done enough damage to the Democratic Party.

@St-Sinner I have said before, every single idea/plan these candidates have was and is due to Bernie! Your failure to see this is just sad.

@AnneWimsey Ideas are borrowed from books, from other people, from consultants, advisers. Bernie does not have the sole right and credit to unique ideas. Democratic socialism, free health care, free college, taxing the rich have been talked about for the last 70 years. Bernie's damage to the Democratic Party image as a big tent, moderate party has been severely harmed by stupid old, hunchback, non-charismatic leader who is unpresentable with terrible demographics to run for the highest office of the land? What does he think of himself,- John Kennedy? Who in this world gave him the idea that people would elect him president of the most powerful country and the leader of the free world? Just a small far left fanatic group of supporters?

@AnneWimsey It is not hatred. It is a non-preference and dislike for what he is doing. Nothing good to the Party or the nation, just misunderstanding far left small group enthusiasm as a nation movement. Everything I said is a fact. He is struggling, he has extreme ideas, he is unable to sell his message for 6 years now. What is not true here?

No one likes the criticism of a hero they are passionate about and facts are hard to accept. 4 months ago, I said on this platform that Beto will not be president, he must learn how to sit straight in front of a camera, he is not a presidential material. His fan said, if I cannot say a good thing, I should not say anything. But what I said proved true and even I stopped the voters at large wouldn't stop telling the truth, would they? The same has started happening to Bernie, I am sure the DNC will make a rule that independents cannot seek Democrat Party nominations in the future. I support it. Enough of this hijacking non-sense.

@St-Sinner "not sell his message"??? Medicare for All & $15/hour minimum wage have Huge support across the country & across party lines.

@AnneWimsey Bernie's ideas are borrowed and be sold by an effective messenger better and he or she will be elected. Bernie is not able to sell himself, his candidacy. Voters are not sure if he is electable or if Trump would kick his ass badly in debates. We have had enough humiliation with Hillary already, we are not going to take a chance with a worse candidate this time.

@St-Sinner drump can barely make a coherent sentence, never mind several in a row. The idea of him beating my 12 year old dog in a debate would be more accurate

@AnneWimsey
You have inflated ideas about Bernie. That comes with a passion. I admire the passion but not a blind faith. I would be happy if anyone else defeats Trump including a good Republican but it is never going to be Bernie.

@St-Sinner I have listened to every video on YouTube he ever made (a lot when we had Roku at Bernie Headquarters last time...wednesday was my day there), so I have seen his consistency, his caring about real people, his intense planning on how to make it all happen (mostly from diverting money from war machines, of which we have More than enough!)

@AnneWimsey
His intensity, his ideas, his honesty are not the issue here. His candidacy is. He is not a good candidate. The United States Presidential election is largely a personality, popularity contest. Candidates don't make plans - advisers and consultants do, often lobbyist do, legislators don't draft legislations - special interests and lobbyists do, common people funding will not help win elections - it is a myth in the primaries, you must seek big funding in the general. No matter how much you deny these are realities.

Bernie supporters want to dream of and live in in a make-believe world that does not exist nor it is possible in the U.S. like it has been in Sweden, Norway, Finland and Denmark. We are not the same society. Finland just elected a 27 year old former cashier to be its prime minister. Will this happen in the U.S. in the next 50 years? The answer is - definitely not.

We have to keep our feet on the ground, asses where we are and where we can pragmatically go. We have very strong capitalist forces. Our voters' psyche will not elect an old, absent minded professor and hunchback looking man who recently had a heart attack and who is Jewish as president - it will not happen.

His policies, sincerity has a zero value, it only means a lot ot his passionate supporters - not to the large voting public.. That does not win elections in the United States.

@St-Sinner wow, "jewish as president"???? Like Kennedy was a scary Catholic? Try moving out of the 60's, it makes you look old & foolish.....

@AnneWimsey A Jewish, gay, Mormon, atheist or Hindu candidate will not be president in this country for another 25 to 30 years. The backlash from the silent white majority after Barack Obama's presidency is not talked about enough but books will be written about it. It is one of the less discussed elements leading to Trump's election. If Bernie is thinking he will get all Democratic votes and some from the Conservative South, he is living in a la la land, so are his idealistic supporters. If you want to be denial of this sad reality, enjoy it until the election wakes you up and nobody will use the word "socialism" again in elections. Consider that as a parting gift from Bernie.

But isn't the ability to win important? Especially more so now than before? Many who have gone and gone had good ideas and they were bad candidates. You know well, that good ideas don't win politics, strong candidates do.

@St-Sinner "Strong" candidates in the current American electoral system means exactly "very wealthy" candidate. It's become a contest of who has the most money. As we saw in the last election, the person with the most money was the worst candidate.

Warren, and indeed all of them, have plagiarized what Bernie has been saying about Healthcare for decades. Go to Youtube & see for yourself. The Shrill Shill has no intention of doing anything for We The People

@AnneWimsey As Buttigieg (spelling?) said, any candidate on the stage is better than the current occupant. They will do infinitely better for the people, considering Trump has done nothing.

Is the economy running well and adding jobs? Yes, but it was already doing that anyway, and wages aren't going up for the vast majority- besides, deficits are going to crush us in the future because of what Trump's doing now. Every Democrat candidate, I'm pretty sure, stands for fiscal responsibilty and growing the middle class.