She claims that he said this almost two years ago. She has been getting along with him very well for all of this time and then suddenly, just a few weeks before Iowa and a day before a big debate, her campaign leaks the story. Why would she wait until this moment to bring this up? If it actually happened, why didn't she call him out on it long ago, when he allegedly said it?

This is a very transparent attempt to stir up some drama and use identity politics to change her position int the polling. She sees that she is losing so she did something desperate and despicable.

How can you believe her when there are videos of Bernie from the 1980 supporting the idea of a woman being elected? He encouraged Warren to run in 2016. He campaigned hard for Hillary after she beat him in the primary. These are not the actions of a sexist who doesn't believe a woman can win.

@RoboGraham I said what I have to say. Bernie only supports women in the abstract.

@BitFlipper It's like this every time with you. I provide a bunch of information to refute what you are claiming and you don't even try to engage with it. "I said what I have to say. " In other words, You don't have any logic to back up what you have to say, you are just going to mindlessly say it.

Was it abstract when Bernie campaigned for Hillary after she won the primary? Are the decades of Bernie supporting and fighting for reproductive rights just abstract support for women's healthcare? Was it just abstract when he encouraged Warren to run in 2016? This is not the record of a person who does not support women and doesn't think they are able to become president.

@BitFlipper Horsefeathers!...examples? I'll wait...........

I think she already realizes that she doesn't have a chance and now she is angling for VP spot under Biden. She has terrible political instincts.

Yeah it probably wasn't said at all. And that's the problem. He is being accused of something falsely.

@Aurora62 For sure she said it. That was a shady tactic.

That's a very good point. Not sure how people trust someone who was a republican until she was 47. That's a major transformation. Most people make a big shift like that while in their 20s and are set in their ways by the time they are pushing 50. At best, she is inconsistent. At worst, she still has some right wing leanings.

@RoboGraham speaking of misleading, she was not a republican legislator. She was just a person who registered as a republican. And no one who observes her legislative career could honestly accuse her of rightwing leanings. Congress.gov is a good source if you want to see what she and others have sponsored and how she and others have voted. Speculation is ridiculous when there are records. Noother records matter.

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@genessa I am not a legislator, but I am a democrat and have been for a long time. Just as Elizabeth was a republican for a long time. A person does not need to be an office holder to be in a party and hold that parties political beliefs.

It's not speculation to wonder if a conservative republican who eventually changed parties and moved to the left might still hold on to some of that conservative ideology. Hopefully she doesn't have any right wing leanings. If so, It's the best case scenario, she is inconsistent. She has had a big political swing once before in her middle aged life, how do I know she won't have another in the opposite direction? She hasn't proven herself to be terribly consistent with the jumping on board with Bernie's Med4All plan and then backing off it to a public option plan.

I think she is a decent person, a good leader, and probably would be a great president. I trust that Bernie will be more likely to be a better president because he has been extremely consistent for a very long time. He has loads of integrity which Elizabeth proved she doesn't have with this ridiculous accusation she just made, and Bernie is more electable because he is a democratic outsider. People despise the establishment and want someone who is not associated with it. He is the only one who has proven that he will never take big donor bribes and is the only one you can trust to fight for the people, not the special interest and the corporation.

@RoboGraham well you would not have to wonder if you actually made the effort to find out her leanings by checking out what she has done as a democratic legislator. It is easy enough to make insinuations. Knowing is another story.

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@genessa Her actions as a democratic legislator are only part of the story. I'm happy with what she has done in government. It's what she was like before that which worries me. It would be a different story had this transformation had occurred earlier in life. I went from being a libertarian at age 18 to a socialist by age 25. Most everyone I know started at one point of the political spectrum and ended up somewhere else. Usually this happens in youth and an ideology solidifies by midlife. She went from one end of the political spectrum to the other in her late 40s. Perhaps some of that conservative ideology did solidify but has been lying dormant. Hopefully not but even so, I'm not convinced that she won't go through another big swing. It happened before it could happen again. Someone like Bernie on the other hand, we know where he has been all his life and we can trust him to continue to be what he has always been.

@RoboGraham Sorry but that makes no sense to me, and yes i understood what you were driving at. I do not agree and find it a little ridiculous in fact. People may have realizations at any point in their lives.

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Shame on newsweek for reporting it? If she doesn't want these kinds of stories being written she shouldn't be making false accusations.

@RoboGraham not shame on newsweek for reporting it. shame on newsweek for making it a bigger deal than it is. maybe she heard it somewhere and believed it, and wasn't making a false accusation but a mistaken one. maybe he said it but it got taken out of context. maybe it isn't as big as, say, assassinating a foreign leader on land that doesn't belong to either party. i don't know. i somehow can't hate anyone over this.

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The moderator asked her " What did you think when Senator Sanders told you that a woman can not win the election?" Her response " I disagreed" She did not deny that Sanders said this to her. Not she heard it somewhere and believed it, she is saying that she heard it from him directly.

When covering the primary and one candidate disingenuously attacks another and this causes a backlash and her supporters start demanding their contributions be returned, that is a big deal. That is news worthy. Just because there are other stories in the news right now doesn't belittle this one.

I don't hate her over this either, but I certainly don't trust or respect her anymore.

@RoboGraham I trust and respect her. If people want refunds over this that is their folly and their folly does not make me distrust or disrespect her. She is human.

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@genessa She is a human who was on the Republicans side until she was 47. She is a human who lied about her native American heritage and about her son attending public school. And now she is making false accusations about a person who has supported her. These are not the actions of a trustworthy leader of integrity.

@RoboGraham she has been a democrat for 24 years. When does that begin to matter? Was she ever even in public service as a republican? Anyway she did not in fact lie about her native american heritage. She has some native american ancestry. As for her son and public school, i cannot say, as this accusation is news to me, but considering your other two "accusations" i can't take it too seriously.

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@genessa She was a republican for a longer time than she has been a democratic. In her early adult life, she was a strong conservative and very much in favor of free markets over consumer protection. I'm glad that she has changed and I do think that she has become a champion of consumer protection but her record makes me suspicious of her. To make such a dramatic political shift so late in life is a bit dodgy. I trust someone who has been fighting on the right side from day 1 over someone who has changed sides.

She claimed to have significant native American ancestry. Turns out that the amount of native American ancestry she has is so tiny as to be insignificant. Trump has and will pound her on this lie.

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@RoboGraham oh for pete's sake, first of all, who SAID significant regarding her heritage? She said what her folks told her and people jumped on it. Second of all, both her kids DID go to puic school, thkugh her son ALSO went to prep school. And third she was a registered republican voter, which doesn't even mean she vkted republican every time. As a lawmaker she has only been a democrat. You don't trust her: fine. I can't change that, and apparently she could cure cancer and walk on water and you'd still be measuring her percentage of native blood. Fine. But i am unswayed by this piddly stuff. I think she would make a great president. As for trump pounding her, he will pound anyone on anything and he doesn't need facts to do it. He will make stuff up.

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@genessa I agree. She would make a good president. But why settle for a mediocre candidate when there is an excellent one running on much the same policies? This piddly stuff doesn't really matter but it does to some people and it will be a detriment. The most important thing is beating Trump. We must select the candidate most capable of doing that.

@RoboGraham well i do not share your opinion of her as mediocre, and while i like bernie, i like her even better.

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@genessa Would you rather have her over Hillary?

@RoboGraham i don't know, and of course it is moot now, so i won't waste much thought on it exceot briefly to wonder whether hillary would be open to a place in anyone's administration. She might be busy.

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@genessa Yeah. Probably busy blaming Russians for her own failures.

@RoboGraham no, busy with her prestigious new job. Do you have a problem with female csndidates or just these two? And by the way, are you thinking somehow the russians had no hand in that? Seriously?

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@genessa Right now, I have a problem with any candidate that is not Bernie Sanders because he is undoubtedly what this country needs. Gender plays no part in the decision making process. Do you favor candidates based on their womanness or just these two?

The Russians may have played a small part in it but the answer to the question of why did Hillary lose is, she was a terrible candidate who was incapable of defeating a clown that should have been easy to crush. And now she is passing blame for her colossal failure on anyone or anything she can. Now, everyone who challenges the democratic establishment is a Russian asset. She casually accused a major of the United States military of treason as part of a political game. She is the deplorable one.

@RoboGraham yes a terrible candidate. That must be why she won the popular vote by almost three million. Russians played a small part? Sorry, it is hard to type while laughing. And no, i do not judge candidates by gender. I sometimes judge people who post by their apparent attitudes toward gender.

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@genessa Against Trump, any non-terrible candidate would have not only won the popular vote but won the election as well.

You make it seem as though other countries meddling in elections is an out of the ordinary thing. We do it all the time. I'm sure the Russians did what they could but I highly doubt their efforts were significant enough to make any real difference. People voted for Trump because they were fed up the status quo. Many people didn't vote for Clinton because they were fed up with the establishment. The involvement of the Russians was blown way out of proportion because it served as a scapegoat for the incompetent democrats who managed to lose to a reality TV personality. They can't accept that it's their policies and their corruption that caused the lose so they must blame Russia. And Bernie.

If you are judging me based on my apparent attitudes toward gender, it is misplaced. All you have to go on is my justified loathing of one female politician and my disappointment in another. I have voted for a woman for president. I also voted for Barbara Mikulski for Senate. I happen to think that women probably do make better leaders generally because they tend to be less aggressive. In our particular contest we have currently, the male candidate happens to be better than the female,in my judgement. So he will have my vote this time around.

@RoboGraham yeah whatever. Sorry, you have no credibility with me. None.

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@genessa Well in that case, likewise.

You have shown yourself to be totally closed off. Unwilling to take into consideration any criticisms leveled at your chosen candidates and unable to counter those criticisms with anything logical. You just gloss over the negative aspects of these politicians who you have decided to follow and dismiss all arguments made against them by labeling the people making those arguments as deplorable.

Why do I have no credibility? Because I disagree with you? You seem to be a rather insecure person, unable to have constructive discussions with people who don't see things your way. The last time you and I spoke on this subject, you threw me out of the group because I disagreed with you and you didn't like that. In my eyes, you've lost your credibility with me, not because I disagree with you, but because you are unwilling to engage in a productive discussion with someone who doesn't see everything your way.

@RoboGraham Thanks for the psychoanalysis. You got me so far wrong that if i had any doubts about your wrongness about warren they would certainly be dispelled now, as i only met her once and i have known me all my life. But i hurt your tender feefees so obviously i am closed-minded and insecure. Uh huh.

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@genessa I'm sure that you know you better than I know you so I guess I'll just have to take your word for it. In my experience communicating with you, I've never seen you to be open and willing to objectively consider what I've had to say. I called Hillary a terrible candidate and that was it, my credibility was gone. And yes it is a bit insecure to boot someone out of the conversation just because you don't like the arguments that they are making. But this was only a couple of conversations. Maybe it was just a fluke. I hope so.

I've been following Sanders for a few years now and I haven't seen any examples of sexism. Do you have any examples of this? As far as I can tell, he supports woman's rights.

Yes people are far too easily persuaded to turn on others. Like how Warren was persuaded to turn on her long time progressive friend and ally because she is desperate. People are supporting him much more than her. Has Bernie ever turned on her?

Which groups are plants trying to subvert democrats?

Her claim is that Bernie said a woman can't win. There are videos of him arguing that women can and should win dating from the 1980s. He tried to convince Warren to run in 16 because he believed she could win. She declined so he ran himself. He supported and campaigned for Hillary after losing the primary to her. This is not a person who believes that a woman can't win. It is nothing more than a smear.

@RoboGraham That street runs both ways. There are going to be those who just want to stir dissention.
It's not out of the realm of possibility that the republicans are trotting out their dirty tricks to get the democrats to cannibalize one another.
That's been done before, too.

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@KKGator Sure. All the more reason to have unity and for candidates to not go making false claims about their fellow dems.

@RoboGraham Yet, you are assuming that Warren is the one making the false statement.

@KKGator So again, are there any examples of Bernie being sexist and what are these subversion groups you brought up?

@KKGator I will continue to assume it until I see something convincing showing that it's true. I don't presume people guilty until proven innocent. Everything that I know about Bernie leads me to believe that he would not have said this.

Warren on the other hand has had some issues with being truthful. She lied about her heritage, she lied about her son going to public school, and she lied about not using corporate money in her campaign. I don't trust her.

@Riley Same here. Except I won't vote for him.