Hello, I've been MIA for some time but today i needed to be on here. I want to vent. I have a friend, mind you now only via Facebook and Instagram and she's always been a questioning person but about a couple of years ago she made a decision to be religious. She knows I'm atheist, we've had many discussions in the past about religion in general and then we stopped when she joined a church, one of those more open minded ones where they sing all the time.
Today she sent me a request to join someone live on Instagram, i clicked on the link and there was some guy welcoming others joining and i had no clue who he was so i decided to click on his profile. It said singer and lord worshiper. I clicked on live again and he was saying they were going to sing hymns to the lord to save us.
I'm beyond offended. She knows very well i don't bend that way and when she joined the church i politely asked her to leave me out of it and it has been fine. I've had others that went the religious route they kept bothering me so now they're blocked.
What the hell possessed her now to break our agreement? How could it be a good idea to include me on lord worshipping hymns to save us now that we need science to step up? Just venting.
Sorry for the long post i just feltviolated
You wasted a lot of unnecessary adrenaline and time with this.
I see that you have never been insulted or betrayed...interesting!
@Freedompath
Post hoc ergo propter hoc
Or perhaps I prefer not to waste time on such things
Because I find them trivial
This is a normal thing for most Christians
It’s like petting a viper and then being upset that it envenomated you
Pointless
Move on
Accept the lesson
@darthfaja People aren’t ‘viper(s)’... they hurt, they heal, they gain understanding! Their ‘story’ may not be important to you, but it was to them! And, that is why we care!
@Freedompath
Some people are vipers, however by your response you missed the analogy. I also never said it wasn’t important.
What I said was why waste the energy to be upset by this. It’s a waste of time, energy, and stress.
So don’t do it.
Why on earth would you allow someone with a complete polar opinion bother you?
I have better things to do with my life, like not getting upset over these kids of things.
@darthfaja It is a pile of all the ‘little’ things that overload the wagon. And, who wants to wait for only the ‘big ones,’ to learn our lessons? Are you a robot? Check yes or no!
@Freedompath
What’s the lesson here? There is nothing to learn and nothing surprising.
Simply wasted energy
Much like you wasting my time over something pointless and trivial.
@darthfaja Ok...I wonder why you are here? Most people that I have encountered on this sight are not frivolous! It is a good thing that people aren’t judged by your ‘yardstick!’ Maybe, you will find your own level here somewhere?
@Freedompath
Frivolous? I have a great sense of value. Just because I don’t allow people’s opinions harm me, that does not make me frivolous.
I am here because I am an atheist and I was invited here.
Judge by my “yardstick?” I states my opinion. That’s a simple and important thing.
I don’t waste my time worrying about or getting angry about other people’s silly comments or concerns about me.
This has created your replies?
You still haven’t answered my question.
What lesson?
@darthfaja ...I don’t know about you but, when someone has to tell me that they, ‘have a great sense of value ‘ a red flag goes up! Your words and actions speak to who you are, not your reporting on it! And second, when did the world start revolving around you? You have not only discounted the person making this post, but me as well! Maybe, you can’t grasp the idea that other people are entitled to THEIR opinions, the same as yourself! Our ‘person’ and our opinions are two different things!
As to the lesson...that would be something that you would see for yourself. We learn things about ourselves that helps us navigate the world better. The person making this post, was expressing her confusion, my response was meant to help her get past her confusion. Maybe it did and maybe it didn’t...that was left for her to decide! Main thing was...she was ‘heard!’ Maybe you only heard how ‘stupid’ she must be for being hurt or taken aback, in the first place...I don’t know for sure, but that is what I gleaned from your words!
@Freedompath I’m good really, not worried what you consider a red flag
This conversation serves no purpose
Ya da ya da ya da
See @franka below he sums up my feelings
@darthfaja Your words work just fine. I relate to information as it is presented, how else can one be expected to relate?
@Freedompath there are many ways to relate to someone. Currently I’m relating to boredom.
@darthfaja why are you here then? You must mistake this sight for something that it is not?
@Freedompath just bored with you
You’re awfully angry about my opinion
This can not go unpunished!! I'm afraid...she must be Rick Rolled. Hail Satan. Amen.
Frightened people do stupid things. It is possible she thinks gawd will listen if enough voices join up......stupid, yes, in fact ridiculous, but you have to weigh everything else she is to you as a friend & just move on until things return to normal......
They will do what they feel is necessary to plant the seed of religion. It's like a compulsion but know she does it because she cares about you. However, in saying that it doesn't excuse her disrespecting your boundaries. I would draw that line in the sand again with her and make sure she knows you will cut her off if she oversteps it.
You've been granted permission to send memes and George Carlin videos. Take advantage
A lot of Christians have the urge to try to win you or convince you to accept their religion, so they are taught. She broke the promise but she did it "for a better cause". I would be pissed too!
Christianists think their situation is the "one true" belief system, and they're convinced that everyone would join them if only they heard "the word". Your friend doesn't care, and doesn't respect you. Her idea of friendship is disrespect.
"Her idea of friendship is disrespect." Exactly!
Send her something like this, and at the same time, thank her for referring you to the crazy guy, she'll get the message if she has half a brain.
Thank you guys for all your comments. I knew I could count on you to make me feel better. I'd expect that from someone else that might not know me that well but I didn't expect it from her. I wrote to her and she said that she thought since she converted to religion then I'd might convert as well given her church is kinda relaxed and has it's own interpretation of god. I told her not interested and if she repeats it she's blocked. She hasn't responded. I appreciate all of youchiming in. Thank you
I understand how you feel. Religion drove my good friend of 37 years, Linda and I apart. She was born Catholic and did a 360 degree turn from being a fun, actually a little wild and crazy girl and non-judgemental friend into a deacon or asst priest of her church. We reconnected 7 years ago while I was fighting cancer in a rehab center and then last week on Facebook. So far so good. She knows I don't believe in a god. I'm hoping she doesn't overdo the Jesus thing again. Setting boundaries. She restores religious statues for free but likes Randy Rainbow like I do.
Always sad when this happens. In her case it is rude and not excusable, knowing the boundaries you had previously set.
Some Christians and theists feel that they have an obligation to convert their friends to their faith regardless of the potential consequences that could follow.
Your second sentence says you have a friend. All of the rest of it proves that you do not.
My mother mailed me a letter a couple of days ago, inside was a copy of The Awake magazine, the JW pamphlet that they give out on street corners, along with a note saying that these are trying times and even though she knows I don't believe in the things she does, she still loves me very much and wants me to be safe and to live forever with her in the coming paradise earth. I was touched that she did this out of love for me and after reading the letter I tossed it all in the garbage.
People do strange things out of fear and that's what religion panders to, our fears of loss and of death and of divine punishment for our imperfections and failings. Everyone has doubts about themselves and the things they have done in their lives that they are not proud of but not all of us give into that fear. If they keep sending you this crap then you have to remind them of the agreement you made about their religion, if they fail to honour the agreement then it is bye bye friendship.
Her religion is more important than you are now. But, she might reconsider if you came over... I am so sorry, this clearly hurt you and you feel betrayed. I am sad to say...that people and some are our friends...are hooked on their religion and nothing is going to allow them the freedom to let people be something else. No, it is encouraged to go out and save souls! It is a sad time as we who are not of ‘the faith,’ are the ones being disenfranchised, disrespected! You have my condolences...it has happen to me with family that I love. It hurts! But, trying to change them takes too much out of me, so I set them free.
Sing some black Sabbath and say she invited you
Lol
People change over time and drop their loyalties. I'm sorry you trusted and got burned..
I don't have enough information to understand her motivations but I have encountered a range of theist with similar (totally lame) idiotic positions and behaviors.
Perhaps she recently underwent some trauma (stroke, emotional stress) and, unable to deal with reality, lost and afraid, fell into the quagmire of religion in an attempt to regain a sense of self-worth and through peer pressure (and fear) she drank the cool-aid and became convinced for her to be saved and ascend beyond the physical world, she must bring fresh meet into the fold.
Face Palm.
Sorry you experienced her mistake. I would say time to find a different on-line friend. She sounds "blocked" worthy.
I would simply have said, once I realized it was a religious virtual get together, that it isnt my thing. Even if she knew you were an athiest, if you had other things in common. who cares. If she doesnt respect you disinterest, then, she doesnt get it or get you. so WTF, this happens for various reasons that cause people to no longer connect.
She is just doing what she is instructed to do by here authoritative figures and here book of multiple choice. As long as it is just on the internet and not in personal contact, I can just ignore them and move on as it is pointless to have conversations with them.
I’m sorry. The brainwashed are always trying to pull others in. I’ve met few believers who can resist doing it. Part of it is, it makes her feel better, so she wants others to feel like she does. Another part, they are taught to ‘spread the good news’.
This epidemic is increasing the anxiety and depression levels of many and it is causing the religious to face their mortalities.... not to mention, religions are spreading the lies around that this is a sign of the end of times... and that believers must "save" the souls of loved ones.... in her brainwashed misguided way, this may be her trying to "help you". hehe