So, tonight my husband got called an apostate whose after-death destination will be hell. Let me start from the beginning, we share a house be with my parents. We get the downstairs and they have the upstairs, but we share the kitchen. My husband had made a comment about moldy bread he almost consumed and said if it killed him we'd know why. My dad, overhearing him asked, "But do you know where you're going when you die?" Leave it to dad to take any opportunity to insert the gospel. My hubby told him that he already became a Christian at some point. And Dad said his actions were that of an apostate. Then my husband asked, "So you believe Christianity is works-based? I thought the work on the cross was to end death so that you don't have to work for it anymore. That would make God a liar." Dad said, "That's not true!" They bantered back and forth and eventually things does down. Then hubby took his food and escaped to the comfort of our room downstairs. How do you all react when someone calls you an apostate?
I am, to many, an apostate. To myself I am just me and their phony god belief their burden not mine, unless they seek to interfere in and with my rights and other people's rights. I found most religiously affiliated people hypocrites, especially the evangelical ilk. If there were to be any form of Hell, I would reason that the (This thought is from the Hadifs) Muslim lowest level being filled with hypocrites would make the most sense.
I don't mind being called an apostate. I did walk away from religion, and I'm proud of it. I am more ethical now than I ever was as a religionist.
Pretty much the same way as bitch, fucking liptard or heathen. I do take exception to feckless cunt, I've really never been feckless.
I have never been called an apostate. What fun! My likely response?
"Forsooth, milord, wherefore dost thou use such antiquated terms? Verily, wilt thou accuse me of churlish goings-on forthwith? Balderdash!"
Once I had exhausted my supply of old words (I only know a few,) I would fall back on incoherent muttering...if I hadn't already collapsed in laughter, anyway.
I am an apostate with pride. I did not lose my faith but replaced it with something much better - evidence based reason.
Apostasy is a term meaningful only to the religious. I don’t view it as a bad thing so it fazes me about as much as being called “sober” by a proud alcoholic.
Just remember that anyone calling you a hell-bound apostate is not someone with an open mind and therefore not someone you can have a fruitful discussion with. In such matters, I find that it's best to avoid headache-inducing back-and-forths, opting for the path of least resistance instead (especially when you have to coexist )
Now I’m thinking of my deeply religious great aunt: she would insist that a demon was talking through my (atheist) uncle whenever he would disagree with her. Good times But it did serve as a lesson as to the futility of engaging with such mindsets.
I don't, or rather, wouldn't. Seems kind of silly.
What’s wrong with being an Apostate? Didn’t Jesus have twelve of them?
That would be apostles.
@Biblebeltskeptic Yes, I sort of know that ...
It dosn't matter how or whom you argue with sooner usually you get to the response "all you have to do is believe" then I often feel like I am going to meltdown and join all those people including children who have been obliterated in the name of a God. By the self righteous.
I had to look up the word. At the end of the day, it is way better to be described as that than delusional.
My own family is really religious in one way or another, and when they do stuff like this I have to bite down on my anger. I'll smile and act lile what they say doesnt upset me. One way to stick it in their craw.
I kind of walked into a similar conversation with one of my favorite aunts. Unfortunately, she kept prompted for a positive response about me praying and I just don't have it in me to lie and pretend that I pray. So she kept comparing me to satan because I "question God" and such. There's really no winning with people who are beyond a certain level of indoctrination. I wasn't offended because I understood.
See, the reality is that the human brain doesn't actually care what is true or false. It is our ego that cares, not the brain chemistry or actual physical biology of it all. The brain just wants consistency because that's the library system it uses to store and recall information. If there are conflicts in its "database" it will try to resolve them which is what bothers us. The more years they spend in the church, getting reinforced in their beliefs every week, the more difficult it becomes to untangle the birds nest of "wires" that have them convinced that what they believe is true.
So... keep that in mind and tell your husband that they still love you both but their brains, at this point, are addicted to Christianity the same way the Walking Dead are attracted to blood. Christians just want the blood of Jesus. And they'll hurt anyone who gets in their way without truly being 100% conscious of what they're doing or how badly they're treating people. Because as long as they believe they're doing it in the name of God and Jesus, to them, it is always going to appear to be the right thing. All you can do is tell them how it makes you feel and ask if God wants them to hurt you when, if he wanted to, he could just appear to you himself.
I usually just agree with them. As much as I sometimes enjoy picking at doctrine, it seems confident apathy works really well. Sometimes I feel bad that they can't understand how anyone could just not care about things that are so important to them.
Probably try to come up with an impromptu song based on the Laverne and Shirley music and crack up at how poor of a job singing I have done. Thank them for giving me the good laugh and tell them I have to excuse myself as I have not fulfilled my minimum daily baby/virgin sacrifice yet today. Then wink as I walk away.