Moron wrong
you're an expert then. What have you personally seen? I don't mean media either.
@LeighShelton Am on pandemic response team in my state retired P.A.fauci is right. And you ?
@bobwjr just a load of empty places and people in masks with no deaths or even illness I know of.
"A small amount of death" never hurt anybody.
small amount, we all are going to die
Why in the actual Fuck would you post CRAP like this???!!!
why the actual FUCK wouldnt i????????????????
How do you know its crap Honestly? i never said it was the truth but where i live its what im seeing with my own eyes. What are you seeing with your own eyes. forget the media.
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i see youve gone all quiet
Models change as mitigation steps are taken. Had no lock-downs occurred, the death toll would be way higher. There are "only" 1,755 deaths in California as of today (56,634 in the USA and 211,000 worldwide and we are still in the middle of this thing with "waves" to come). He is extrapolating numbers based on what HAS occurred (lock-downs, cleanliness protocols, and social distancing).... not on what WOULD HAVE happened had we done nothing. Flu causes 8,200 - 20,000 deaths in the USA every year. COVID-19 is much more deadly.
nice to hear your perspective. I got to say I hear all the numbers but I don't know anyone with the virus let alone dying from it and that's the truth. personally, I think the knock-on effect of the lock-down will be far worse for most than the virus that everyone who is going to get anyway.
I know a couple of people who have had it. My cousin in Denver, Colorado and an old friend in NYC and his son. So far, I am lucky that no one I know has died. I worry about my older relatives and those who are immuno compromised. Unfortunately, there are people willing to sacrafice the vulnerable population for the sake of the economy. The economy will recover in time. Dead people don't come back.
@LizBeth I am one of those vulnerable people ie asthmatic, 59 overweight, and living on my own. I'm just not seeing bodies piled up in the street but its really spooky how people are acting. this is killing people for sure without the virus. the economy won't just pingback. this is unheard of. in ww2 60,000,000 people died but people weren't doing this 24/7. I am very glad that nature gets a break. I myself am enjoying the peace and for sure there are worse things than death. my good friend had multiple sclerosis and was begging her relatives to kill her. my mum died last year after rotting and suffering for 6 months. my sister took 11 years to die of cancer.
@LeighShelton Well, I guess it feels so strange (for everyone - me too, I live alone) because we have never had to live through a pandemic before (since the last one was in 1918, Spanish Flu). Yes, a lot of people were killed during WWII but that really has nothing to do with how/why a pandemic kills.
I don't like what this is doing to the economy either, but if the choice is letting a lot more people die needlessly or taking an economic hit and rebuilding the economy....my choice is less death. You are vulnerable, both my parents are living (in their 80s) and are vulnerable, I have a son, sister, and a cousin who are all medicall vulnerable. We need to lessen the spread and protect the ones who need protected. In the US we have the added pressure of a broken medical insurance system. Imagine going bankrupt just because you get ill and are uninsured.
I am so sorry your friend, your mum, and your sister endured such suffering before they died. It certainly is not fair and I am sure it was indescribably awful (for the ill and for the those who loved them). I believe a person should be able to choose death when they are suffering. Perhaps in time, that choice will be more widely accepted.
@LizBeth that's a huge "IF"
@LeighShelton I guess I am an optimist at heart
@LizBeth me too for sure and a realist though I hate being pigeonholed.
@LizBeth thank you for your most interesting input x