Their "alleged" rights. I think some of the rights that recent protestors (on all sides) claim to have, or be fighting for, are pure speculation and ideology, not supported by anything in our laws or courts. They are fighting for their unfounded belief systems, even in a time that pragmatism is necessary
More importantly they are willing to sacrifice OUR parents and grandparents for their rights. Just like they endanger OUR kids and OUR lives for their right to bear arms.
My Blue Lives Matter and Support Our Troops Facebook friends and family have now decided that the police and troops have become a tool for the Democrats to take over the country and impose martial law. Suddenly, the police are the bad guys because they can't go to their local bar.
I’m very confused. Who is the “you” that is being addressed?
Sounds like a combination of stereotyping and straw man argument.
Sounds like someone didn't look at the picture. Or listen to them.
@1of5 Can you read the minds of those people in the picture? You have no idea of their opinions on all those subjects.
Their confederate flags and assault weapons give them away
@WilliamFleming jezus christ dude. Is your patronus an ostrich?
@1of5 Because someone shows up to demonstrate for ending the lockdown doesn’t mean they are anti-abortion, that they are angry about Colin K., or that they think the Coronavirus is a hoax. They are all individuals, each with different opinions.
Quit stereotyping.
@WilliamFleming theres been quite a bit of research into the people who are organizing and sponsoring these rallies. Hint: theyre right wing political orgs, with agendas, not pro business groups, nor workers. And plenty of the content at these rallies has bern recorded, It takes willful ignorance to think theyre about people who just want to return to their jobs.
@Burner The world over??
@WilliamFleming The most angry and outspoken protesters against the lockdown, even in my state, are very often seen wearing MAGA caps and holding signs and placards proclaiming their support of Trump; and it is this Man of Orange, their hero, who has villified Kapernick, embraced the pro-lifers, coddled the Confederate flag wavers and goaded his zombie followers with memes like the Democrats are going to take your guns away.
@p-nullifidian That’s no excuse for stereotyping the entire group. Everyone is different. The post presumes that all the protesters have specific opinions about certain issues.
Even if some of the protesters are Trump supporters, you won’t get them to change by slurring and demonizing them. Many people are very tired of the constant drumbeat of derision and mockery by arrogant and condescending elitists who present themselves as morally and intellectually superior.
@WilliamFleming Your point about individuality seems somewhat ironic when applied to a large group of protestors whose rallies were promoted, if not orchestrated, via conservative talk radio. Mockery, condescension and derision go both ways, whether applied to Trump loyalists or the 'libtards' they so despise. If the shoe fits, right?
The use of the term 'elitists' is a tell, as it is often used by supporters of Trump as a pejorative, particularly when referring to academia. And yet, as we all witnessed in the 2016 election--and continue to see today--the two greatest predictors of support for Trump are educational level and race, with white non-college grads backing him by a more than 2:1 margin.
Race has long been an issue in this country, but the widespread political difference on education level is a relatively new phenomenon. And this becomes a major problem because, unlike the past where uneducated persons relied firmly on the expertise and body of knowledge held by recognized, lettered authorities in a given field of study, these same experts are now often ignored, if not vilified as ‘elitists.’
When enough uneducated persons, who think they know more than those who have spent an entire career studying a given subject, find a leader who reflects their willful ignorance, we get what we have today with Trump and his loyal fan club. It is the Dunning-Kruger effect on a mass scale.
@p-nullifidian So my statement is a “tell”. Once more you are demonstrating faulty logic, resorting to slurs and demonization rather than facing the truth that you have no idea of the opinions of the people pictured, on the various issues cited. It is stereotyping pure and simple, and now you are painting me into your distorted irrational perspective. For you, certain key words are a “tell”, after which you think you know just about everything there is to know about a person.
It is precisely that attitude, spewing from the national press and from Democrats in general, that is likely to get Trump re-elected. What is needed at this time is mutual support and respect. Sure, a few on the right make hostile statements. Is that any reason for you to attack half the American population? It’s kindergarten stuff, not indicative of much education.
Read the essays of MLK. I recently posted one of his best.
@WilliamFleming I apologize, sir. I allowed your use of the term 'elitists' to cause me to paint with a broader brush than warranted. I will also overlook your censure of 'the national press' (all of them?) and 'Democrats in general.' My criticism (this atheist doesn't believe in demonizing, or sanctifying) is of the actions and speech coming from the man in the White House, and that of his enablers like Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh, and his ardent supporters, who have never been 50% of the population. I decry actions and attitudes that are anti-science, encourage the copulation of church with state, give succor to the 'othering' of minorities and immigrants (particularly those of color) and attack the media simply for doing their job to get at the facts.
Please don't get me wrong. I respect well-considered Conservatism, as was once espoused by people like Barry Goldwater and William F. Buckley. But that is a far cry from Trumpism. Apart from perhaps Mitt Romney, one is hard-pressed to find a legitimate torch bearer for the intellectual Conservative movement. Since the passing of John McCain, the Republicans have, in just one short term, gone from grad school to grade school.
I agree with Conservative columnist George Will, who stated, "I believe that what this president has done to our culture, to our civic discourse ... you cannot unring these bells and you cannot unsay what he has said, and you cannot change that he has now in a very short time made it seem normal for schoolboy taunts and obvious lies to be spun out in a constant stream. I think this will do more lasting damage than Richard Nixon's surreptitious burglaries did."
@p-nullifidian I warmly accept your apology, and I apologize for generalizing about the Democrats and the national press.
I’m not going to vote for Trump, but I respect the office and accept him as our president, even though he has been brash and embarrassing at times. Mainly I respect the judgments of the people who elected him. They made their choice—who am I to reject that?
@WilliamFleming Fair enough ... I too accept the result of the 2016 election, and even the vote in the Senate not to impeach. Peace.
@Bobby9 I appreciate your support, but p-nullifidian has apologized, demonstrating a lot of character. We all stereotype from time to time because no one has the complete picture