They may think whatever they want. I am not too concerned with what they think, because they demonstrate that their judgment is highly questionable and thus, what they think is not to be trusted. We agnostic and atheist sheep have broken out of the pen, free to make sound decisions based on science. What they think, and more importantly what they do, concerns me only because they will continue to spread the virus thru their ignorance.

@Stilltrying1964 so you think their judgment is clouded and they think yours is. hmmmm ...

@JeffMesser Again, I don't care what they think. I am a classically educated and licensed engineer, possessing what is referred to as "engineering judgment." I have the ability to sift thru data and reach reasonable conclusions. They apparently do not have the same ability. It is up to us to make sure proper actions are being taken, much as a parent teaches a child not to run out into a street without looking both ways first. They know the street AND traffic are there, and run out in front of traffic anyway. That demonstrates an incredible lack of judgment.

@Stilltrying1964 so you think your pessimism is based on science? are you also familiar with epistemology?

@JeffMesser no, but I am familiar with douchebags who like to bait people, so piss off!

@Stilltrying1964 you're every bit as blind as the christians.

@JeffMesser so I looked up the meaning of your word, fancying myself being something of a Wordsmith! Do you know what piss off means Jeff?

@Stilltrying1964 apparently never took calculus either then. some disciple of science you are.

@JeffMesser Apparently you don't know how to use the shift key. Lazy or not very bright?

@Sticks48 now you're just sounding less and less intelligent.

@JeffMesser Coming from you this is hardly an insult.

@Sticks48 now you just sound like a grade-schooler.

@JeffMesser Is this all you have? You are a real light weight. GEEZ!

@Sticks48 if you aren't familiar with epistemology then you don't have the knowledge for this conversation. you just run along in your little deluded world.

@JeffMesser I do know what it means now, and it is still no reason for you to be an ignorant dick who can't find the shift button.

@Sticks48 you "know what it means" thanks to google. typical internet expert. go learn something.

@JeffMesser I just did. I know you are from Oklahoma which explains why you are not bright and are a dick, but I do love OU football. Boomer Sooner! I am sorry you are devoid of wit. It would make this much more interesting. and fun.

@Sticks48sad that you waste this period of your life with such a closed mind is tragic. you obviously failed to broaden yourself as a person - at least intellectually if not culturally etc... . the failures is yours, not some state. you chose your myopia and still dwell in it. if you want "fun" search for it inside yourself. atmaneva atmana tustah II jagat mithya

@JeffMesser You so funny Jeff. You should take this act on the road. You think you are smart because you live in a state full of ignorant rednecks. A piece of wax fruit would appear intelligent in Oklahoma. I know you want to insult me, but as I have explained you can't. To take something as an insult I would have to look up to you. I can't imagine anyone looking up to you, maybe a small house plant. If you are on a keyboard there are two shift buttons, one on each side. I'm sure you can find someone to help you find them, even in Oklahoma. You are not quick of wit, but it is getting more fun.

@Sticks48 jagatmithya viveka II satyamtyaja kalpitamkuru adharmambhaja II atmanevaatmanatustah II ayambrahmasmi

@Omnedon I wonder if they would go to the restaurant if they heard that a gunman was there. He may miss a few, so only some would be "affected."

Ah, ...faith, the last great bastion for stupidity.