twill, I'm just 150# and 6'1" so it might be more noticeable to me.

..you talkin to me 5’ 10.5’’ and prettymuch consistently 150 lbs since highschool. Small as a child, that last year of HS was amazing! Have never looked my age.. Gave me fits for decades, now, it’s weird watching the faces of those when I tell them I was born in 57… ‘You look ten years younger,’ I’ll hear..

Parents are still going at 85 & 90, perhaps I’m be doomed to do the same If I find pants with a 33 waist, I want em

I’ve certainly noticed those who use criticizing obesity as a method of keeping themselves in check. Watched, or listened to my mother do that for..ever. Not cool, or how I want to be, but calling it as it is should at least feel safe ~

@dannydreamer I'm at an even 6' . And it seems above my recommended BMI range still. I would be over even at 165.

@dannydreamer You two sound like a perfect match!

@LovinLarge

You've been on the attack since the beginning of this thread. And you made my point. (It's the grossly overweight, out of shape people that do the body shaming. ) Thanks and have great day (starts with a 1,500 calorie breakfast)

@twill And the attack will continue on all bigots of any type, every time they post here. Another old con trick, accusing others of that of which you're guilty. You're not fooling anyone.

Likely neither of you will ever again have to concern yourselves with any of the very important aspects of long term relationships. How sad for both of you that you reached ages where you feel the need to omit your ages from your profiles without growing out of your very limited, superficial, judgmental, misogynistic view that women exist for your pleasure. The real problem with your position is that it poisons the social environment with yet another form of discrimination, but at least now we know what the two of you are made of.

@LovinLarge My first long-term R/S lasted thirty years, you? With a close friend of ours once saying, ‘at least you’ll never have to worry about her becoming fat,’ ‘just look at her mother.’ Apparently, she took after her Dad..

This apparently struck a nerve with you.. A wakeup call, perhaps? Not only do I not find fat attractive, it’s eventually deadly. Of the multitude of cancers women are susceptible to, why add morbid obesity?

My next plump little lover battled it our entire time together, nearly killing herself at some militaristic ‘fitness center,’ not eating after a certain time of day, while admitting, ‘I’m always hungry.’ Then let’s fuck! That worked … till her BPD got the better of us.. Now, she’s apparently given up. I haven’t. Ten years younger than me, she’d remained impressed.

Yup, going to waste at the moment.. But better than ending up with someone willing to go to pasture. I know how tuff it is, and it seems those who use food as an alternative to sex had been amazing lovers. But it’s their decision, their choice, and attempts to shame, goad, encourage or love them to health is beyond the capability of anyone else...

Seems you’re the judgmental one here. Have either of us gone after a fellow or female poster? You’ve outed your personality, not mine, or the OP. Actually - it was a far bolder move for either of us to speak truth to this issue than pile on to the PC comments of others.

Thanks, Varn and I really like your Thank DOG expression. My favorite and no one's ever called me on it. I wonder if they think it's a misspelling?

@Varn Sorry, just not that interested in what you have to say to read all that. So many of you old guys just can't seem to adapt to not being able to control women, which makes me greatly appreciative of those who have successfully made the transition.

@LovinLarge I posted my age just for you. You hit on a real important point. I expect women to control themselves.

I agree with you on that point ,very highly unlikely, usually even health concerns do not motivate the majority of people

Yup

To be fair, you aren't really representative of the average woman your age. Both men and women are guilty of the failures you mentioned. Sadly, it's only men who are fair game for criticism in this area. If we talk about women in this way it's called fat shaming.

@BitFlipper

I love what British author Caitlin Moran wrote about:

The Pressure on Women To Stay Young

"So. Yes. We're all dying. We're all crumbling into the void, one cell at a time. We are disintegrating like sugar cubes in champagne. But only women have to pretend it isn't happening.

"Fifty-something men wander around with their guts flopped over their waistbands and their faces looking like a busted tramp's mattress in an underpass. They sprout nasal hair and chasm-like wrinkles, and go 'Ooof!' whenever they stand up or sit down.

"Men visibly age, every day -- but women are supposed to stop the decline at around 37, 38, and live out the next 30 or 40 years in some magical bubble where their hair is still shiny and chestnut, their face unlined, their lips puffy, and their tits up on the top third of the ribcage."

-- Caitlin Moran, “How to Be a Woman”

You gave up too soon. Become a biker, hiker and beat but on down to Florida.

@dannydreamer

Thanks for the compliment, Danny. I'm a passionate hiker. What do you mean by, "beat but on down to Florida"?

I'm appalled by man-children who want a mommy- doing all of the meal planning, cooking, cleanup, housework, laundry, etc. - and great sex. Forget it.

It's too much of a burden. Most older men want a nurse or a purse.

Am happy living alone.

@LiterateHiker Sorry for the misspelling. I meant to say beat BUTT on down to Florida.
I can't disagree with you, Hiker. I'm appalled with them too. My place is spotless, I'm financially independent a great cook, and baker. Glad you're happy. Maybe I should give up on finding a woman who's responsible for her health.
BTW, I hope I didn't seem to excuse guys with beer bellies. I'm amazed that their partners stay with them. I feel they've broken their vows.

I expect they were actually integrity shaming you for not having any.

@LovinLarge right

Your painfully graphic description made me cringe Twill.

@dannydreamer

Ditto.

It's not about my eyes. Obese is a medical term with a specific definition.

@dannydreamer You spoke only of your opinion as seen through your eyes, referencing no medical definition.

@dannydreamer Thank you for proving my point.

Have you ever been accused of exaggeration? I didn't lose my mind over 2 pounds and I don't require a perfect mate. I don't feel comfortable carrying extra weight and particularly in a monogamous relationship, I believe partners need to work at it and health is a huge part of it.

@dannydreamer You're a dishonest man. "Losing your mind" is a fair interpretation of "I can't stand it". How disorienting it must be for you losing the control you think you should have over women's bodies. Poor you.

I'm 76. How is that important? How did I body shame someone? By using the term full-bodied? That's their term not mine. Is using the term obese body shaming? Obese people are shaming their own bodies.

@dannydreamer Nothing about anyone else's body is any of your business. Things have changed a lot since you were born in the 40's but you have failed to adapt. Your time would be better spent addressing your own inadequacies than pointing fingers at others.

@LovinLarge Yeah Danny, just keep paying the higher insurance premiums and medical bills. You have no right to complain...Just pay, pay, pay.....

@twill evidence or stfu

@LovinLarge LOL Are you that fucking ignorant???

@twill Support your claim with evidence or you are a liar.

@LovinLarge hmmmm. It's how insurance works...? Seriously....do you not know basic economics?

@twill You made the factual claims that Danny's insurance premiums and medical bills are higher because other people are overweight. The onus is on you to support your factual claims with evidence if you want it to be credible. I realize that you probably have no idea what evidence is but the burden remains. Provide supporting evidence or everyone will know you're a liar.

@LovinLarge [healthycommunitieshealthyfuture.org]

(One link out of hundreds )

@LovinLarge What has changed since the 40's is the obesity epidemic. I suggest that you get your head out of the ass of the culture war . Open your eyes instead of your mouth

@twill Now try providing a link that proves your claim, Einstein.

@twill Nothing to do with anyone else's body is any of your business, bigot.

Plus - if he demands perfection - it's only fair that he has that to offer - which is clearly not the case ... (smile)

I'm demanding responsibility, not perfection even though I probably expect it of myself.

Taking care of each other seems to be the point of an LTR. If one can't or won't take care of themselves, then it's not likely they will take care of you either.

As enablers do, they are more likely to drag you down, than raise you up

@TomMcGiverin Then you'll be taking it correctly.

Enjoy the veggies, Vern. Plus eating them really helps.