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Ok.....how do you answer this: I say, "I don't know if there is a god and I don't know that there isn't a god, and neither does anybody else know." My daughter replies, "Dad, YOU may not know, but you don't KNOW that others don't know. Speak for yourself." What do you think?

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tcgagnostik 4 Apr 12
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It’s the burden of the believer to prove it exists, not the critic.

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Believers don't know that there is a god. They have faith that there is a god. Where there is knowledge there is no need for faith, and hence no need for religion.

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No one really knows. I believe that no one knows where we were prior to arriving here, and no one knows where we're going. Therefore I believe I'll err
on the side of complete ignorance.
Peace brother

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She is confusing faith/superstition/irrational belief "know" with empirical evidence "know." They are not the same thing!

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I can not believe in any god without evidence. I always require someone to prove, with evidence otger than personal revelation, the existence of the god they believe in. Most have trouble even defining what they mean by " god".

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She's wrong. She is confusing knowledge with other people's belief.

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She is correct.

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There has never been any proof of a god. It is a made-up human excuse to explain what cannot be currently explained by science. So there is ample proof of no God(s).

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I think allowing others to "know God ", does'nt give you "the Answer".

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Its still only a belief.

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Knowing and believing are two different things.

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Just needs a slight edit to completely invalidate her arguement
"I don't know if there is a god and I don't know that there isn't a god, and neither can anybody else know."

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Tell her "others do not possess powers of reasoning beyond myself"

Seph Level 6 Apr 12, 2018
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I KNOW there is no credible, verifiable evidence that ANY gods have EVER existed at any time.
I KNOW there are no gods.
Anyone who claims that there are gods has the burden of proof.
Your daughter doesn't know either. If she claims she does, it's on her to prove it.

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Solipsism. The onus is on the believer to prove existence.

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“ok, I see you have a very stong opinion on this, so forget it, lets get some ice cream”

just don’t play. I would ask how you even got into the argument.

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If any of these "others" had any proof, they would be on every channel.

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