If money is speech, then the legacy of Mitch McConnell should be the burden of Trump & Republican neo-Confederate/insurrectionist forces.
One of the key failures of reconstruction was to refusal to economically extinguish the culture of the Confederacy.
How about mandatory DNA testing?
So it seems many of those who voted believe a harsh potentially violent response is the only way to appropriately discourage this in the future...
If that is so, is the rest of America ready to burden the consequences of such corrective action?
I don't think so.
Well I do believe a stern response is necessary, I think people right now just want more retribution than they do pragmatism.
I think the best option is to go after the wealth of generation capabilities of all the business entities that enabled the madness.
Treason is not to be punished economically, these assholes wanted to kill our democracy, this is sexition, this is insurrection, and this is treason. To not act strongly and severely and also swiftly would be inexcusable. No more leniency with the enablers, with the traitor trump, with rubio, cruz, scott and hawley. These pustules have to be ecpelled from their positions of power. Anything else is a kick in the ass of democracy and the integrity of our country.
Unfortunately, the United States Constitution is abnormally specific about what constitutes treason... And this does not. It makes sense because the Constitution was literally built on compromising with slave owners who were always on the edge of treason.
I think I'm more legally accurate word is sedition.
One of the key failures of reconstruction was to refusal to economically deprive the culture of the Confederacy. This is just an attempt to generate ideas on not repeating that mistake
To what level do we hold those that have sold us to China accountable? Are they the black nationalist? Is it wrong to say that?
What are you talking about bro?
@domos He's a racist who pretends to be a doctor. Mostly we just shame him until he goes away.
@LovinLarge My girlfriend is black and no one has accepted my offer to come visit me. I’m the bad guy and orange man bad. I’m Fucken horrible
Come prove me wrong.
That because democrats can’t afford to travel
That’s an opinion
Fucken, fuckin, potato, fuloflr
@CourtJester geebus, cutback on the mushrooms, or whatever, you are Not coherent....
@AnneWimsey trying to reason with some people isn’t coherent. It can be fun though.
None of these choices are fitting.
How so?
@domos Neither government policy or ostracism are likely to help. I have no answers. These people are mentally ill and you can't force them to change or get help. Maybe deportation could be used? It was a common practice in the US against communists and political dissidents in the last century. But I don't think that was right either and I'm not in favor of political imprisonment. I wish they would leave voluntarily, but no country would be likely to want them.
@TomMcGiverin
So it seems you've completely given up on the idea of them remaining citizens in the constructive way.
Or to put it another way, which you hesitate to choose between living next to a sex offender versus a Trump supporter?
I just don't see any way to force people to accept the sort of agenda you support, not in a free society. What you are proposing is something like China's policies on social engineering, like their one child policy to reduce population, where they would punish those who didn't comply by denying them financial support from the government as well as limiting their access to jobs, etc. Even that didn't work with everyone as people would find ways to get around it by killing any female babies so they could have another one that they hoped would be male. I don't want to live in a totalitarian society like that.
Nothing will get through to them.
They won't stop until they are dead.
Are you sincerely advocating for inherently violent and lethal, post civil war style martial law to be used?
Huh?
Sorry, I hope recent edits have made things more clear
@domos Yes, thank you although I don't see how this economic sanction of white nationalists could be accomplished which is not to say that I wouldn't favor it if it could.
What difference opinions are going to make?
Nothing is going to change. We have been wasting steam for decades, not just for 4 years.
The stakes are too high to just do nothing bro or not suggest ideas to try