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Only 6% of the total Covid death count in the US actually had Covid 19 as the only cause of death?

According to CDC the nation's health protection agency's website. The numbers showing those who solely died from the virus was only 6% A 94% of those who died, did so because they had existing health conditions.’”

Castlepaloma 8 Feb 10
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The Covid does not kill, one dies of the pneumonia one gets because the body is depleted by the Covid. The result is that the deaths probably would not have happened if it were not for the Covid.

How do you know that?. Any proof of this?
I can be tested in 4 different hospitals. Then come out twice negative and twice Positive.

@Castlepaloma Really? They let you waste tests that could have been used for ill others like that?
No, you made that up, And said it more than once on this thread. You are not only a liar, but a very poor liar.

@AnneWimsey
I can take a test for covid and be tested both positive and negative. I did it using two of my personal friends who tested both positive and negative because it is free in Canada. Our prime minister lied about taking the covid vaccine. He knows the vaccine is more dangerous than the covid.

Gave a link showing it happens everywhere. Everyone lies to different degrees. For me honestly is the best policy, why would I lie about covid testing. Only time I might lie, if someone personally could be harmed. Politicains are seriously lying to you and corporation because profits are more important than your health for most part, and everyone knows that.

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up until a few weeks (probably less) ago we were bombarded on the MSM about hospitals being unable to handle all the new cases. haven't seen any of those dire reports lately..

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It's that way with gun shots too. The bullet doesn't kill you, it's the blood loss.

Falls,too...the sudden stop! Lol!

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Oh good. I was hoping another internet expert would show up.

What is an internet expert?, sounds too high tech for me. I see plenty of nationalist thinking they know what's best for their country. Like the religious knowing what their God thinks. I take no stake in politics or religion. At best, just enjoy and reporting the freak Show. Like two megalomanic pro wrestlers going at it. Then know what to avoid.

The world will change itself.

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All I know is that before covid we had heart attacks and deaths from many different things but never did we have to bring in refrigerated trucks to hold the dead bodies because they stacked up so fast and not just in NY but in many places
so though the numbers are skewed there are covid related issues in most of them

Then that's all you know.
The Jews (Zionist) claimed there were 6 million Jews killed by Germans in World war two. These extreme numbers, greatly debated in 100s of thousands deaths
by the (real Jews) orthodox Jews. They stacked their bodies in the most horrific way. They will never let us forget it in the history books or common conversations. Where has most people heard about the 26 million Soviets killed during the war? The Nazis really hatred for the atheists.

About 400,000 Americans were killed in world war 2. Yet many Americans claim we would be all speaking German, if it was not for Americans.

Take your pick on who you want to believe.
I trust most by far, in my family's history and strong individual friends. Most of the outer personas is BS. Nationalism being worst than religion. Sorry for being reasonable, I'm Canadain. Guess that makes me the asshole, never the US Government on this kind of post.

Whiskey Woman: Excellent point!

@Castlepaloma they could have kept better records too but trump wanting to avoid responsibility did not want accurate data

@whiskywoman

At least, most here would agree with me that Trump is a hazard to our health. I Thought nobody could get worse than Bush. Then Trump and the Plandemic came along.
Don't worry they will find somebody even worse or MADD method worse.

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Just read this science-based article about the CDC stats that have been very popularly twisted around, starting the the big LOSER himself. The commenters below got it right. Those people would still be alive today with their mostly age-related other health issues. They were just easier for covid to kill when they had diabetes or high blood pressure... but it was still covid that killed them. There's also a link in there that takes you to the updated stats on the CDC website but this won't let me post both websites.

[livescience.com]

I don't know what these experts are really saying or who they are bought and paid for on this
lie science. Real numbers don't lie.

You can go into 4 different hospitals to be tested for covid. Then find two would test you positive and two would test you negative. Even if covid deaths were 100% pure covid at 6% or at 50% Covid comes no where near the top ten ways to die in the world. The unjustice system is telling you the sky is falling and most of you bought it, hook, line and sinker.

Leading Causes Of Global Deaths: Big Changes Since 2000
This analysis is through the end of 2019 and doesn’t include COVID-19. But with a projected 1.9 million deaths in 2020, the pandemic would rank as the sixth-highest cause of death globally.
Death rate decreased 2000 to 2019 Death rate increased 2000 to 2019
Coronary heart disease 110
Stroke 89
Neonatal/birth conditions 52.1
Lower respiratory infections 49.7
Inflammatory lung disease 48.6
Diarrhea 43.1
Tuberculosis 28.3
HIV/AIDS 22.5
Lung cancers 19.6
Road injuries 19
Diabetes 14.3
Kidney diseases 13.2
Dementias 9.5
(110 deaths per 100,000)
2000
115.3 Coronary heartdisease
80.4 Stroke

@Castlepaloma ty

@whiskywoman

Symbols for the Symbol-Minded
Rings no bells or hells for me.

How is Trump related to me, he personally ripped me off for $10,000. for a sandcastle and he is the criminal of the century.

I will only accept the pizza for a rare snack.
The rest of your gifts, rightfully belongs to you.

@Castlepaloma your LIE about the "opposing" testing results made me stop reading the rest of your post immediately . Plus i see you are a Holocaust denier.
Well, good for you.
FYI,it was Not just Orthodox Jews (becuz that of course would make it all okay) in those death camps, it was the old people, physically & mentally disabled, Gypsies, gay people of all kinds, Catholics, journalists, dissenters, anyone who tried to help the Jews, and etc....if you ever get your head out of your ass & get some facts, i will be happy to welcome you back to Humanity, but not now.......

@AnneWimsey
What have I lied about? I am not a covid or holoaust denier it's just their numbers are greatly difference
by different groups and the over all dose not make sense to me.

There are plenty of world order denier here on this post, not by all their presidents though.

Check Babi Yar wikki. Orthodox have whole different view than the Zionist Jew who are 80% of the Jews in Israel. These two always have wars over the Holocaust death numbers.

@Castlepaloma becuz it wasn't all Jews, as I pointed out just above. Huge amounts of others........Duuuuhhhhhh

@AnneWimsey

I also pointed out there were alot more atheists killed than Jews. There were also more Christian killed than Jews. I'm not denier of any holocaust.
So I don't know what your getting at..

@Castlepaloma as I identified above, you have several times repeated the Lie that "4 different hospitals' would give you different results, including on a very recent post that you got 4 tests,2 positive, 2 negative....which tells me you somehow lied (again) in order to take tests away from those who needed them Or lied about the entire thing. Either way, you are a despicable quasi-human being.

@AnneWimsey

I have only two simplified rules in life.
Be honest and don't harm,
I don't break them for anybody..
So point out just one lie?

Been told by many I'm very intuitive. Reason being an international reknown artist and bioorganism history buff for over 4 decades. Like anyone, I can make mistakes. Please, just show me or prove me my errors. I can't be insulted unless it's really true, So forget the heavy name calling. I respect you and others enough, not to do so, unless more in fun. Life is not worth taking so seriously, especially dealing with the red flags of history, politics and religion.

There has been many people including my personal friends that have done the same kind of covid tests as Elon Musk testing both negative and positive.

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So, alrightythen, we should just take off our masks & Ppppaaaahhhty! Unless of course you are not 100% perfectly healthy........
Which, just to mention, the guy who wrote the first book on running (Jim Fixx) died at 52 of a heart attack....

There is a great different between heart disease and covid. I am suppose to get a physical examination every three months. I can't even get a heart exam over the phone by a doctor for the last year. One person died of covid since May in my province. How people have have died of heart disease related illnesses since May? Hundreds, maybe a few thousands in my retirement haven part of the world. Yet we are in total lockdown the same as you.

When I and most others are healthier because the hospital are more half empty. It a tall tail sign the medical profession is the leading cause of death in the world. That is evident when the US population grew three time greater in 2020, to three million people. Than in 2019 of a million and in 2018 of a million.
Numbers don't lie

@Castlepaloma but the overall premise is, if you have any kind of "condition", (which Mr Fixx was considered the epitome of health) you may Or not know it! Then "something else", like Covid, gets added tothemix. Do you think he was not studied/tested extensively by doctors? "Running" as a sport was new & trending! His book is full of statistics & evidence of how healthy his lifestyle was making him,("you can be too" )...then, suddenly,, deader than a doornail at 52.
So your complacency is just silly, and, yes, foolish.

@AnneWimsey
I went from the largest sand, snow sculpture company in the world. And my Nations largest sculpture company. Then force by Government to go bankrupt. About 8 years ago never was in overnight hospital bed up til then, in my life. Then bang!!!! heart surgery. last few years revented my business and relearned why I was
my own best Doctor in the world. Today teach workshops to others to build tiny eco houses, grow organic food, and follow your dreams or you may loose your mind, like I did 8 years ago. Don't need self help books or assumed experts, just helped myself.

@Castlepaloma why exactly are you veering off the subject You posted? Could it be your basic premise is/was deeply flawed?

@AnneWimsey

Show me where I'm veering off into a deeply flawed connection?
My happiness simplified and most based on my health and what I can forget. I like to forget those assholes that most allow themselves to be victims by, time and time again. Or the same old shit, just bigger diapers to fill every four years or empires collasps adverage as same a person's life expectancy.
No veering off there. Just bad and ugly news is the same.

Let A-holes be A-hole, most are better off leading their own life.

@Castlepaloma "I worked for sand.....company....." who gives a rat's ass?

@AnneWimsey

As a major feature, about 18 million in attendance did. I am no longer a toy for the wealthy, change to being of service for the people.

@Castlepaloma you say "forced by government to go bankrupt".......you mean because of tax evasion! There is no othe reason except to avoid prison, duuuhhhhh.

@AnneWimsey

My accountant made some errors, that's all it took. I had to apply for chapter 11, paid most of my dealt back. My credit is good, although I don't use it because I build healthy tiny houses and food. Why pay my banker who (I don't know) by two houses, so I can build one.

Bankers, drug pushing doctors and policians is who you would rather trust.

@Castlepaloma " my accountant made some errors"....who paid him & was 100% responsible for his actions?!! That would be You! But why not post all over about how it's the governments' fault.......???

@AnneWimsey

It's important to be aware that the government is a corporation and works mainly for the greedy corporatism. They really don't give a dam about the middle class like me or most people. Middle class pays most of the taxes and dose most of the work. The poor like the homeless are there to scare the hell out of middle class. There is more homeless than Government servants. The plandemic fear is there to herd us all back into their control.

It all works until most people get MADD as hell of the abuse and change it for the better.
It's Not by Politics or by Religion. It's by the collective consciousness of the people that change and always has been through out human history.

@Castlepaloma Goodland, has anyone ever strung more platitudes together?

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So what. Whether its the virus as the primary cause, or whether it dibilitates the body's defenses so that a co-morbid precondition caused the death. Its still a COVID related death.

The implication of the wording and layout of your post is worded such to intimate that somehow we, the American public, are being purposely lied to and mislead. A virus most often kills by decreasing the immune system's ability to ward off the pre-existing co-morbidity. Its still a COVID related death, regardless directly or indirectly.

If your Government has never lied to you before. Then it is not just the religious who have blind faith.

@Castlepaloma

Nobody said anything about blind faith. Just weeding through your biases and conspiracies. No pollyanna here.

@t1nick

Most of the time I am cheerful and fun, just not so much on this topic. I love Americans and the US as much as most other people and other countries. Just don't depend on the American dream, make your own dreams come true. Trying to be helpful.

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Everyone has a condition. Most of us live to a ripe old age with them.

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Yes, but they were alive and living before they got COVID. My wife works at the largest medical facility in the inter mountain west and sees everyday the devastation this virus is wreaking. So what’s your point?

We have many other greater and more dangerous disease or viruses than covid in our body systems anyways. Although we don't setup Martail law and lockdown the entire world over them. It's just this kind of world order has taken it to a much higher level. Don't tell me world order does not exist. All US Presidents have talk about world order.

These are the same people that have set up all the wars and the corporatism systems since world war 2. It's not about money, they can print all the trillions they want. They want to control and own us, Closest to that, was in the dirty 30s and world war 2. Only faith I have, is when the abuse gets so great, about 80% of the consciousness of the people change it for the good of human kind. It's written on the wall and patterns like a puzzle.

@powder His point is, he's looking for excuses to diminished the gravity of the death toll. If anything there are way more deaths than have been reported because unless people had tested positive before they passed, they weren't attributed to Sars-2Cov

@barjoe
Look at the death tolls of many other greater ways to die. That I pointed out much greater than covid, as above posted. I am not looking for an excuse or to be enslaved by your owner's.

@Castlepaloma My Goodness! You are already enslaved by your own little mind! I don't have an owner. People like you would gladly wish they could own slaves. What are you looking for an excuse for? To be a demagogue? I listen to some crap everyday but you are a total Qanon, InfoWars, conspiracy moron.

@barjoe

Freedom is too awesome for me to own a slave or be one. Hey!!! slavery is bigger now in the world more than ever.

I'm always serving others in affordable healthy houses and food, too busy and too creative to be trapped in my own head.

A total Qanon?, Not into the world is flat and run by an alien or most Conspiracy. Things like gay marriage, marijuana, 9/11, world order, and lightbulb conspiracies, yes.

Inforwars, now that guy was a Qanon. They took him off the air, I'm still here.

@Castlepaloma You're the one who brought up slavery and told me I was owned. Your words. Not mine.

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