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Somewhere along the way I seem to have lost my agnosticism. After gleaning, garnering and gathering all the evidence for goblins, ghosts, gremlins and all the other ludicrous contentions I thought that I should get a better grip. If none of these preposterous imaginary beings are true then shouldn't we all exercise the same dismissal of the forlorn hope or uncertainty that there may be gods or higher powers?

waitingforgodo 8 Feb 22
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And defining yourself in this narrow way helps how? exactly?

to me that seems aggressive because its clear to me what it meant, it even made smile and feel boyish

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Agnostisim is irrelevant. Everyone is agnostic, including theists. They, like everyone else, DO NOT KNOW definitively if a god exists, this is why agnostisim is irrelevant.

Theist: theist = belief in god
Agnostic: a = without; gnostic = knowledge
Atheist: a = without; theist = belief in god

In order to know, you must have knowledge, in order to have knowledge, you must have evidence. Believers simply believe without evidence producing knowledge. An atheist accepts knowledge that evidence produces. Theists have not produced any evidence for gods.

This is why atheists demand proof in order to obtain knowledge and theists demand belief in order to sustain their faith.

If you don't have belief in god or gods you are an atheist.

What's interesting to me is that theists, without perhaps even realizing it, are also atheists, as they do not believe in, or even accept the existence of, gods other than their own.

@p-nullifidian That would only make them atheistic towards other gods, they would still believe in their god or gods, making them theists.

@nogod4me Understood. It's merely something that a theist doesn't often stop to consider when assailing the atheist who, when it comes to monotheism, goes one god further.

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Just to point at something, you say, "...I seem to have lost my agnosticism". Very simply, without complex detail, you are saying, " ... I lost my "I don't know". So, if you lost your "I don't know" (agnosticism), what then it would seem correct, you for sure do in fact know?

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Just because one may or may not exist does not specifically mean any other one does or does not exist.

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And then you become an atheist and focus on more important issues. Are you an atheist now? I hope so.

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