If I'm not mistaken, that post of yours attracted multiple progressive screechers, lol. You are correct by the way regarding modern day progressives.

@SpikeTalon yes it did. I am proud of my work. It made a lot of progressives crawl out from under their bubbles and reeee into the ether at me.

@Matias .....matias for president !!

who are you refering to, dear lady?

@holdenc98 Just look at the Republican Party for instance.

@Jolanta ok, fine and agreed ........i was worried you were refering to me..... if you were,.my psychiatrist would disagree with you, if i could afford one and if they werent all quacks anyway

i love all sex talk, thought i knew of every kink in the toy box. but what the hell is "tenet and equity? are they things that get stuck into other things?

@waitingforgodo You did. And thank you. It's important. If not to the recipient, then to the observers.

They did the human thingy and went overboard. Yes. This amuses me because it's Dawkins. I believe it was he who many thought the successor to Gore Vidal. When asked about it Vidal laughed. I think he felt Dawkins wit to be lacking, not his mental prowess, but he thought that of everyone.
I believe it should be lawful for a person to do whatever they want to with their body (mind is not ours so I do not include that) so long as no other body is harmed (affected isn't enough as we are affected by Asian butterfly's flapping wings). I don't understand transgender but I also don't get Veganism. It is the "I" which has no place here.

mistake? not judging from the historical record.

@holdenc98 links please

@UrsiMajor I have no "link" to the folly that is american history since women got to vote (and admittedly before also). The only clear cut difference female voting has made is phohibition (a catastrophe) and the craven fawning all politicians render to every aspect of feminism (a far worse catastrophe). Were in the midst of 200 years of serial catastrophes punctuated by a few notes of material progress to disguise these, the end days for the human race. As the physical pl;anet degrades, so the metaphorical soul of our species also degrades. We are hollow shells now. A prime cause of that degradation is the sacrifice of primate human motherhood so that feminism can transform women into little men in the service of a paper and tinsel "equality". Its bogus, open your eyes, take your head out of your movement's a - - , and see it. Only women of "power" . like you, can save us now, or at least make the hopeless effort, by waking up and turning around. Dont say no one ever told you straight out.

' can save us now.

@holdenc98 What the hell are you babbling about? I was asking for a link to prove the AHA had discriminatory problems against minorities. Now you are saying feminism is a problem?

SO you are saying that I am nothing, not even a human being unless I reproduce?

I have a message for you:
"SHUT THE FUCK UP!"

I do not need to reproduce in order to be validated as human by people like you. Thank you.

@UrsiMajor thats a not very deep or well thought out message you sent there. its true, your comment and my reply are in only tangentially related frameworks. but you sound like youre about 25 I.Q. points short of being able to bridge the gap.

your personal reproductive situation was not on the table, and if your childless, obviously that makes you a special exempt case. but dopes shouldnt reproduce anyway, so just like trump and his foot bone spurs, youre already exempt on a medical deferrment? im just guessing.... i havent read your case file.

now, yet again, neither being dopey nor childless is any excuse for wasting your live and precious time away on holding bureaucratic status within the organizational structure of some fashionable npr certified cause. by doing so you miss the flower if life. there are other flowers of life besides motherhood that would serve to aesthetically justify a life, although none as metaphorically sacred. do you remember your mothers love? thats the heart of what im babbling about.

your pal, "people like me"

@holdenc98 [google.com]. Here's a link to the Dawkins comment for others like myself just hearing about this mess. Yes, I agree that the quote is taken out of context especially after clarification. Nobody can say much of anything anymore without a huge scandal. I still stand by my assessment of the situation that you have misogynistic tendencies Why would you say something about women having the right to vote making things worse and transforming us into men ? No, I don't have mother's love. I killed a plant . Had a dog. He died. Welcome to the Dawkins effect. You earned it. I'd actually report that comment, but admin left the building and never cared anyway.

@UrsiMajor "Report" all you like. What exactly is my offense ? Something about Dawkins and mothers love? Tattle-taling is always the first refuge of the npr dope. But, not only am I innocent. If you recall, "elvis had already left the building", before this latest semi incoherent inarticulation arrived . But before i left, hoping it was "forver", i was looking to find the best in you and activate it. Yes, straight talk can be scocking to those living in the feminist cocoon. It was aimed at saving you. You are seriously lost and hurt. There are millions of you out there with these self inflicted wounds. Your daughter too, but she's much more vulnerable to profound damage. Hillary Clintons village won't help her. Its lkikely "fem thought" like hers that is the true root of the destruction. . And (as always, ignored by types like you) your poor, sad, victomized, life-ruined ex husband , trying to make something out of some grotesque weekend crumbs youve left him.

Again...did you do that to him? If so, repair it. If not, if he's at fault, repair it anyway if it can be done. That should be your path. And stop kidding yourself about UU. Look at the people on this webcite and what they write to you and each other. You don't need to go to UU. , Your already here. Its Huxley's BRAVE NEW WORLD, and i bet its cram packed with refugees from the modern divorce. Is this really what you want life to be?

Or, if you prefer going in your present groove, you could always try ringing up PBS and tattling directly to Judy Woodruff. This would be exactly the kind of bushwa that is her bread and butter. Maybe she'll do a feature story on my nefarious male perfidy.

And now, again, I say my hopefully final goodbye. Unless you write back for more advice. The advice would be excellent, and id be ethically forced to give it to you.

@holdenc98 "Your daughter too, but she's much more vulnerable to profound damage. "

I don't have kids. Never wanted them. How do I get through to you on that one? Nobody is listening. Before "our final goodbye" please process that much about me.

Also, I don't think I need to invoke an ouija session with Freud to establish you might have a mother issue or two yourself.

@UrsiMajor .your right. i lost sight of you, confabulated/confused you with another woman, a potential UU, in mid paragraph. the dementia has reached my 2nd vertebrae and is rising. but that paragraph about you tattling to judy woofruff was a pip, don't you think?.. now i slink off, in momentary discrace, to my fortress of solitude. there to contemplate, regenerate, and then soon to return, although inevitably somewhat diminished, as we all are here. as p. roth once said, old age is a series of progressively more ludicrous pseudo elite webcites, and then you die.... oh well, at least im not one of those pro feminist eunicks.

and my flawed and sainted, purely loving mother was beside the point of anything said here, youre all wet there too. ........... as for no one listening, yet again you are wrong. you misunderstand this webcite, as well as life in general. just as there is dark matter and dark energy throughout existence (it actually composes well over 90 persent of everything based on calculated gravitational mass), so there are dark readers on agnostic, of an entirely different personality style than those who post and comment here. don't worry, someone is listening. and your listening.

but now, finally, and at last, i must paraphrase the seinfeld episode where gerry creates a pez dispenser incident, causing elaine to start laughing during a piano recital, and then the angered high strung pianist breaks up with george. on the way out thedoor, she says to george (but read me as the one saying her line, and george is confabulated in my mind with yourself), ........... " NOW I, .... AM BREAKING UP, ....WITH YOU.

having an adgenda is a much better alternative than the cowardly, mutual back slapping, cliche and homily spouting, windmill tilting blather that more and more passes for conversation here. in my mind you are one of the smart ones. so as homer simpson used to say to his tv set, " be more smart". in fact, i invite you to join with my adgenda, which is the honest one. pure anti feminism and anti the new perverted black lives matter"civil rights" i know youre too smart not to recognize all the deadly aspects of their hide bound phoney tryanical dominance. so get off the fense, stop the back slapping, start paddling (no matter how many backs you slap youre never going to get laid here). welcome to the bridge..........jean luc picard.

Exactly Groucho!

@Marionville Somewhere around the time I retired at 47 years of age, I realized that I had run out of fucks to give about petty shit. 13 years on I have to dig down deep in order to care about the important shit like climate change, AI and habitat destruction.
How people want to fuck is their business and since humans seem to do an excellent job of fucking each other, the economy and the environment, I imagine that they don't need my commentary on the process.

@SnowyOwl Being able to drop out has been a major influence over what interests me. Issues are mere mental masturbation for me, now, with little attention for how it ends. I have a preference but that's all it is.

Good point. I would like to think that I am a free thinker . Not sure about humanism if is it tries to elevate homo sapiens above all the other animals. I watched Hilary Clinton speaking with Tom Daley the Olympic diver on the BBC One show last night and she asked him about his husband and son. At my age I still find this weird but good luck to them.

Matias likes to rally.

@waitingforgodo .the original humanism el;evated man above the non existent god.

surely you're familiar with Matias' form.

@waitingforgodo Of course, but each post is a new game.

@Matias You're equating genuine discussion with flaunting your exclusionist agenda. But yes, the days are gone where you can disenfranchise others with hate, at least without a backlash. It's a new day where everyone gets to participate. Will you be able to adapt to progress?

@Matias Hate fuels the exclusive agenda not the inclusive one so no, hate is not universal.

Reason and progress are not mutually exclusive, but opposition to progress is regressive by definition.

Truly reasonable people will never support an exclusive, regressive agenda.

@Matias Can't go wrong with logic and reasoning.

Ask yourself what Matias has said here before about gender.

@waitingforgodo I don’t need to…his personal views are not relevant to this post…unless you decide that they are, but that’s actually irrelevant too! Surely we can discuss something purely objectively without feeling the need to prejudge the motives behind the posting.

@Marionville yes I went the pavlova after you had your turn at bake, responding. How the reaction was "immediate in the way he expects" is remarkably pied piperish of you, lol.

@waitingforgodo…yours is such a Pavlovian response, he posts something and you immediately react in the way he expects. What is he…the Pied Piper, and you the 5 year old who dances away to his tune?

@waitingforgodo Ding-a-ling! 🛎

@Matias We have a great British expression….don’t let the buggers get you down!

@Marionville I'm fond of the term "wankers" myself, but buggers sounds just fine to me as well.