@creative51 please elaborate.

So, you ondone he disrespectful, intellectually and morally dishoneswt, yncuivuil, and threatening behavior of those citizens in school board meetings shown in the news across the country shown who want to avoid true history???????THAT IS THE ISSUE!!!!! Stop trying to blow smoke us our asses.

@creative51 so having an alternative opinion makes me the problem? Well, in Buffalo, the voters rejected India Walton for mayor. By and large, the average American rejects your “progressive manner.” Also, progs lost in Seattle too. You see America as having bunch of automatons that agree with you? Not all change is good. Again, you are not speaking specifics, just a bunch of gobbledygook

@wordywalt no it’s not. Parents paying attention to what their kids are being taught in school is a good things especially poison like CRT. Also, parents should protect their children from being raped in bathrooms when the schools wants to be PC and allow for a “agender” person in the girls bathroom

@Heavykevy1985 Stop with the CRTY bullshit. I do not know of anyone who advocates teaching CRT, and you don't know of anyone either. All I am advocating is that we teach historical truth, but that seems to be too much for you.

@Heavykevy1985 Please answer thiese questions: Did you attnd public shools in Mississippi? A segregation academcy or charter school? A private school? If y9ou did, be honest. You did not learn about the degree of racism in the south, about Jim Crow, the Black code, of how vicious the KKK is and has been in any of thos schools. You learned about those things at the college level or from informnation coming from the media.
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The entire south has been censoring the teaching of American history for over 100 years and is still doing it today. If you deny that, youy are simply lying or chooing to ignore the truth. The effect is the same. .

You ontinue to try to paint me as an outsider who does not know th truth about couthern culture.
That is an outright lie. I grew upo and was educated in the south. I know the culture because I have lived in it for the majority of my life. I know what I am talking about in relation to southern culture, because I lived it, but outgrew it.

@wordywalt nope. I went to public school and we learned about all of that. More than likely, your experience in the South is scant at best and it is colored by what you see in the mainstream media. Probably would have been better if I attended a “segregation academy” because public schools are a joke. I did a lot of my own reading too. No, what I am painting you as is a fool. You think that the US is singularly guilty? Slavery primarily existed in the South and only the rich were able to buy slaves. Even rich blacks had slaves. No, what you advocate for is perpetual white guilt and hatred of this country. The good that the US represents far outweighs the bad. Also, just because you are ignorant of teachers inserting CRT into their curriculum does not mean it isn’t occurring. No the difference between you and I is that I love my country despite its faults, you do not, and especially are prejudiced towards conservatives and Southerners, noted in all your screeds.

@Heavykevy1985 The entitety of my formal education was in the south. I went tyo segregated schools from the ffirst grade through high school. the first time I ever was in a class with a Black person was in graduate school. Textbooks were selectd in Florida -- and still are -- by a state commission which demandsof publishers that any truly negative stuff is not included. You do not seem t be aware that the texty book market in he entie south hat publishers deliberately prouce a sanitized version of history to satisfy those panels. That includes Mississipi.

I know what CRT is, and no one is trying to force it on our kids. That is a dmnable falshood created by he rapid, racist right. You seem to be sipping their abominable kool-aid.

Nlo, the US is not singularly guilty. But most other countries that had a racist past an are acknowledging it and trying to prevent it today. The Spouth is still trying to hang on to its cultural and institutionalized racism. If you are not willing to acknowledge that, you have a real problem in peerception and judgment.

@wordywalt again, I was taught all these topics in school. So are people like Asra Nomani, a Democrat party member of Middle Eastern descent, a racist? Is Winsome Sears a racist, a woman of Jamaican descent? How about Larry Elder or John McWorter, both black men? CRT is increasingly being inserted into subjects like history and literature. Hand-waving like I do does not make it disappear. 40% of Asians voted for Youngkin and 30% of Hispanics too? Are they all white supremacists? The US has acknowledged its past and we do not institutional racism in the US or the South. Name a policy. If you referring to statues, why is it a good thing to knock down statues of historical figures, even those fighting for the Confederacy? You are aware that blacks fought too for the Confederacy, right? By erasing that history, you are erasing that too. The only people doing the erasing is the left because they control the culture including academia.

By and large, I have acknowledged our past but I don’t dwell on it unlike you race hustlers. You think that white people should not have any pride in their and constantly be in a state of contrition for what happened in the past. The US passed bills in 64, 65, and 68 that enshrined civil rights, voting rights, and housing for blacks. In 1954, Brown vs Board of Education of Topeka declared Jim Crow unconstitutional. What systemic racism unless like many regressives such as yourself, you blur the past with current time. There is a form of systemic racism but it is aimed against whites and Asians. Schools like Harvard purposely discriminate against whites and Asians because they want a more diverse student body. The US is the most diverse nation in the world and one huge piece of incontrovertible evidence are the presence of many interracial couples. Even in MS, it is common.

Lastly, I find interesting that you think that Whites should singularly be responsible for wrongs of the past. It seems that you think that blacks take no responsibility for their current situations including high crime and preponderance of single motherhood. Unlike you, I try humans as individuals. That is the antidote for our society.

@Heavykevy1985 I repeat, the assertation that CRTis being taught in our schools is a deliberate false myth created by and used by the uncivil political right. I am a retured educator and I know of NO instances in which CRT is being used in our schools. Prove to me that it is there, or shut up.

@wordywalt Ibram Kendi have written books where it can be taught to kids. If you are an educator, how come your responses have such terrible grammar. Again, you can wring your hands and say it does not exist until the cows come home, but it does not change the fact that ideologues are inserting it into the curriculum

@Heavykevy1985 You are far pone tro attac kothers who disagree with you, and to find any excuse to do so. It would be much better for you if you could fae truth. At my age, my vision is bad and my manual dexterity is not so good. But for your information, i have written two books, three sets of training materials disseminated nationwide, and over 20 professional articles, and never had any complaints about my grammar. . What have you written of any value?

@wordywalt just because you were published does not mean it was good. Appeal to authority much? I have faced the truth. In my college years, I was a leftoid like you because it seemed that atheists are leftists but I realized that the left has double standards and I do not have to be a leftoid. Ultimately, I would consider myself libertarian, for the most part. The truth is that the IS is the greatest country on the planet. Bar none. People like you mollycoddle minorities and want to regress things to tribal factions. In closing, age has not granted you any wisdom. You are fool if by looking at splinters that you do not notice the plank in your own eye

@Heavykevy1985 Your commentary is absurd. Far too many libertarians are self=centered egotists, just a step aboe anarachists. I do not want to "molycoddle anybody. Everybody -- including you -- needs to prove his or her woreth. I agree that the USA is a great country, I just want to make it better -- more just,l more constructive, more moral. And, you want to attack that? Then I would not consider you a patriot. I have served my country in one capacity or another for my entire adult life. C
an you say the same????????

@wordywalt “prove their worth…” Meaning what? Are you suggesting that whites in particular should go through a Chinese struggle session to prove that they are not racist? Policies that you advocate for would regress things for all. If you really want to improve things, more decentralization should occur. People pursuing their own self interests is what sets us apart from the rest of the world

@Heavykevy1985 You continue with your absurd rambling, assertions, . and protestations.
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So? We willnot change as a society unless sincere, onest people riskl breaking the mold. As a high swchool taher, years ago, I taught what I believed to be the truth, and did not ask permission. But, I had the trust and respecd of the kids. I am sure that I passed obn truths that some of their parents did not want their children to know, but I never had a single complaint from a single parent. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

In Australia history is taught from the first year of schooling. It is graded up from the first year of school being
By the end of the Foundation year, students identify important events in their own lives. They identify how they, their families and friends know about their past and commemorate events that are important to them.
Students sequence familiar events in order. They respond to questions about their own past. Students relate a story about their past using a range of texts.

The year 10 version is the size of a small booklet and in year 11 and 12 students choose to study history and can do either ancient or modern or both.
There are skills as well as knowledge that need to be mastered.

This curriculum is for all of Australia, we used to have state by state curriculums but the federal government wanted just one that all Australian schools follow. I believe that even private schools have to follow it.

Maybe not, but I still feel compelled to say it.