Be aware, be very aware please, the Faithfools, aka Christfools, Jesusnuts, etc, etc, have a NEW word they are bandying about.
It is Allegory/allegoric/allegorical/allegorically, do NOT allow them to TRY to confuse you with it, instead use it on them first and wait for them to squirm like worms on a fish hook.
Oh and remember it has taken them approx. 1,500 +years to find this word so don't expect THEM to know the meaning of it either.
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.Religion is the use of fake authority, the most common form perhaps, of what is known as the fallacy of "argument from authority". And the great thing about allegory is that it allows them even more scope for, interpretation, which means that their religion, can be even more, just whatever they want it to be, yet still claim the fake authority that is supposed to belong to religion.
"My very muddled and contradictory holy book, which can be interpreted to say almost anything you wish. (Which is why its popular. ) Tells me, that I may do anything that I want to. And that trumps all your counter arguments, because its holy and sacred, ancient and perfect."
Becomes.
"My very muddled and contradictory holy book, which can be interpreted, OR READ ALLEGORICALLY, to say almost anything you wish. Tells me, that I may do anything that I want to. And that trumps all your counter arguments, because its holy and sacred, ancient and perfect."
Fernapple
Level 9
Dec 31, 2021
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My guess is that they are cherry picking what is "allegory" and what they consider to be fact.
Just as myths and other literature and art use metaphor, I've long felt the bible was more "allegory" than historical facts, though a convincing mix to be sure. In any case, we have so many more stories, discoveries and philosophical thought and insight available to us, that we shouldn't limit ourselves to just one book written centuries ago.
While it helps to understand people's tribal tendencies of the past, it doesn't really help light the way toward global harmony.
Julie808
Level 8
Dec 30, 2021
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Plus there is an even greater danger, in that. Allegory allows them even more interpretation, which means that their religion, can be even more, just whatever they want it to be, yet still claim the fake authority that is supposed to belong to religion.
If you mean the argument by Christos that the 'ancients' didn't believe in history but allegory and therefore it doesn't matter if their religious history isn't literally true, it's allegorically true so just shut up, believe, put money on the tray, and bugger off --- then this is an old fraudulent line by them and they don't want to try that one on me, elsewise they'll get it good. Any argument they think they can get away with, right?
David1955
Level 8
Dec 30, 2021
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Plus allegory allows them even more interpretation, which means that their religion, can be even more, just whatever they want it to be, yet still claim the fake authority that is supposed to belong to religion.
@Fernapple I've watched some religious apologists try that on with serious secular religious historians in debates and they don't get far. Being made aware that most of their religion is mythology based on bad history become absurd theology doesn't go down well. But they try it on, equating allegory with history, not to win the point with experts but to give something to their believer audience to hang on to. It's pure deception.
@David1955 Yes I have seen that. The appolgists often attempt bad arguments of all sorts, even with experts. Because of course, the worst of them, get so used to preaching to their uncritical and brainwashed congregations, that they get into the habit of assuming that to be the human norm.
I've suspected for a long time that Jesus was allegorical.
Seriously though, there's one passage where Jesus mentions Adam and Moses in the same breath, meaning that Jesus, or whoever is speaking for him, thought that BOTH had been actual historical figures:
Romans 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
So Adam is NOT allegorical and neither is Genesis. It is all, actual crap.
racocn8
Level 9
Dec 30, 2021
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So the Faithfools have decided to learn some basic vocabulary. Oh my goodness gracious me!
anglophone
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Dec 30, 2021
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