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Do you shop at WalMart and if so does it bother you or do you think it is just capitalism at work?

SnowyOwl 8 Feb 15
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Walmart is a product of Laissez Faire Capitalism, not all capitalism.

Do you really think that to be the case or do you just want to believe it? Crony Capitalism is not Laissez Faire Capitalism, at least not as far as this Lefty Libertarian is concerned but I accept that I may have misunderstood you.

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I had not shopped WalMart in years, but they have handled the pandemic better than most, which matters with me on a fixed income supporting three households. They offered curbside first here, when four of five groceries never did. Also, they are not price gouging/dropping quality yet like the others. I have really tightened my belt to avoid having to buy, but it makes sense to get essentials where my $ go farthest, right now.

Zster Level 8 Feb 16, 2022
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Walmart has been on the list of predator stores for a long time. I have and will never shop at that loathsome place. Someone once gave us a electric kettle they bought at Walmart and we didn't need it. I had to return it to 'that' place and got out as fast as I could. I do go to Costco (infrequently) but mainly to get glasses, tires or Cliff bars.

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Costco here has Starting pay $17/hour and benefits!

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no I don't shop at wal mart

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These days I am not a big fan of Walmart but I still shop there. They are also my pharmacy. I also shop at 4 or 5 other places but paying more money for something has never been anything I like to do. Walmart will not "go away" just because you chose to pay more shopping somewhere else.

I hear you and also shop there and elsewhere. I wonder how many proud bourgeois Wally-World boycotters can honestly say they also refuse to buy any (for example) Chinese made products. It is a class-based privilege to even have the option to play such a game of selectivity. I try to support local businesses, too, but I can't afford to be a purist about it.

@MikeInBatonRouge Well said. This is like all of those who opposed the stimulus check but you never hear of the great troubles they went through to give their check back. Obviously they kept the money.

@DenoPenno One can focus blame on individual companies, Walmart, Amazon, Google, McDonald's, etc, for all kinds of social ills, and there is no question their ethics can rightly be questioned, but modern history is pretty clear that righteous attempts to punish these giants through publicized boycott efforts fail time and again.

Worse, though, is the implication that customers who shop these (most affordable, most accessible) options are somehow morally lapsed. Bullshit. Focus on building business and visibility of local businesses, instead.

The post's cartoon is really good, actually, because it is highlighting the systemic nature of the problem. Individuals (economically squeezed) are pawns stuck in the middle.

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We have a local shop in the village, and he goes to the discount store to buy products and then puts them on the shelves. Because the discount stores are often cheaper than the wholesalers he can use. So if you do go to the local store, you may still be buying stuff from the conglomerates.

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I'm proud to say I have NEVER set-foot in any Walmart. 🙂

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Fore-runner to Buy-N-Large...

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Since the pandemic and the fact I loathe shopping I do a lot of my shopping on line but I stopped shopping Wal-Mart like 6 years ago just because.

Not a big fan of shopping either and definitely not WalMart.

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I rarely shop at Walmart. I might go in there once a year. But it's not as if the alternatives are all that better. Target, Amazon, Best Buy, etc are in the same business of eliminating small businesses to reduce competition.

But you have to admit that the people watching can be extraordinary sometimes, I go into a WalMart once a year at most, usually because my wife can't find something anywhere else and Wally World is the last resort.

Yeah, this is what I was talking about. Restaurant chains make it super hard for independents to succeed. Grocery store chains have almost completely eliminated small grocers. Amazon has closed mails all over America that contained thousands of independent kiosks. Years ago a had a coworker trash me for shopping at Wal-Mart because of the wages and the way they treat their workers. Unfortunately for him he was taking food out of a Burger King bag while he did it, so I pointed that out and that ended that. When will everyone learn that people don't/won't do the "right" things out of the goodness of their hearts?

@JeffMurray I think for many people its not about "the goodness of their hearts" and much more about the contents of their wallets (and bank accounts). Shopping at Kroger is easier, probably cheaper and definitely more convenient than going to the local farmer's market that's only open one day a week.

@Charles1971 That's true too. But I was talking about the companies then. We can't (and shouldn't have to)
rely on individuals to boycott things that we need our lawmakers to reign in because there's no chance the companies will ever do the right thing without those laws.

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I do. It's essentially impossible not to patronize conglomerates anymore. At least where I live. And to be honest, people expecting you to pay more than you have to for your goods and services by guilting you into thinking it's your duty is the same kind of responsibility shifting that corporations did with the recycling/trash problem. Congress has the power to level the playing field and they don't because they're too accustomed to getting their beaks wet to do the wrong thing. There really is no way to stop them without legislation, either. They have too much money for boycotts to work against them, there needs to be laws. Chipotle moved in to town almost right next to this mom & pop Mexican burrito joint that was really tasty. Chipotle proceeded to run special after special for free burritos running at a huge net loss until the mom & pop finally went out of business. I mean, if you're well off and you want to pay full price for your burrito, that's awesome for you. But if you're broke and you can get dinner for free instead, how do you pass that up (especially if you like Chipotle, personally I wouldn't even eat it for free, but it's not because of principle, it's because I think it's trash).

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