Not so much sad but an indictment on beliefs held by many about the right to have any gun and how it is somehow connected to your manhood or machoism.

@Angelface I think if he had of had the right help it may have been prevented, going on the Taylor Swift stories he needed medication for a brain imbalance not counselling regarding his misplaced manhood! The fact that his Dad was an enabler...likely part of the issue.

@girlwithsmiles both he AND his father thought he shouldn't have had his guns taken away. My words, not the psychiatrist, concerning his guns. I believe it is a common misconception around certain men having a "John Wayne" mentality. With his background, Taylor Swift, the White House incident and others; WHY did he have guns in the first place and WHY wasn't more moderating done?

@Angelface yes, I get that...and his father brought him up I think? Therefore he's likely part of the issue. (i.e. where he got his belief system that he should have a gun regardless of his previous security breaching actions.) Anyway, it seems that we are somehow talking at cross purposes: so will leave it there.

Yes, we are talking at cross-purposes because we are each trying to get our own points across to a seemingly unreceptive audience.

Your point is that if he had better psychiatric care/ help to also counter his father's influence, this might not have happened. Or at least that was what I heard.

My point was why did he have the guns in the first place, why was his father not told to keep them away and in the second place why wasn't there more monitoring done on this individual?

Some men tend to equate their guns with their "manhood."

@Angelface this article talk about men are the main issue and no one is talking about it: [theguardian.com]

@girlwithsmiles I have to agree with his toxic childhood and his hated sense of inadequacy. Not only did his father bolster his belief in guns but his mother once posted online ironically that we wouldn't have mass shootings if prayer" hadn't been taken out of schools." I posted this about the killer. [nytimes.com]

Charges are pending, but the father felt his son had the right to have guns. That is even crazier.