A farmer is out working his crops in the field when a stranger driving by stops. The stranger tells the farmer he’s considering buying a house in the neighborhood, but wants to know the farmer’s opinion of the neighbors before fronting the earnest money. The farmer replied “well, what are the neighbors like where you live now”? The stranger goes on a tirade about how inconsiderate, obnoxious, and annoying his neighbors are and how he really wants to move away from them. The farmer replies “Ya, pretty much the same thing here.” Disgusted the stranger drives away.
Ten minutes later another stranger stops by that’s considering buying the same house and asks the farmer about his neighbors. The farmer replied “well, what are the neighbors like where you live now”? The stranger goes on and on about how trustworthy, considerate, friendly, and welcoming his current neighbors are and how he will regret moving. The farmer replies “Ya, pretty much the same thing here.”
I heard this story years ago but my memory fails and can’t attribute it to anyone.
On the other hand, we had a wonderful neighbor when we first moved here...elderly & we changed overhead bulbs for her, helped with yardwork, etc., she gave us homemade wine at Xmas, etc....then she got dementia, started calling the police on us (there was dog poop in her yard after her grown kids put 3 large dogs out there for a long weekend, and I guess my dogs could projectile shit through chain link fencing?)
We put down wood chips on the property line & she dug them out from under the chain-link & threw them in our pool, aaannndd etc. The police we called could easily see this digging & when the confronted her she went nuts, they hauled her away. Before this she had also started non-stop swearing at me whenever I was in my yard...only a 50' wide lot, so hard to ignore. Plus cutting my flowers off at the base, leaving her scissors right there, while we were at work, etc etc etc
Sometimes shit just goes south.....
Good reply to the question.
I've found that people who have trouble with their neighbors often are troublesome neighbors themselves. Perhaps they lack respect or good communication with their neighbors.
Those who show respect and consideration right off, perhaps making the first move toward that, tend to get that respect right back. Sometimes if you display behavior you'd like to see in others, they will copy. When you assume the best in others, rather than the worst, they will live up to that and your attitude is more forgiving.
I personally am a good neighbor, respectful of quiet hours and our property ground rules. I've communicated to my neighbors how wonderful it is when everyone respects the posted rules and quiet hours, and now immediate neighbors also are good about.
Currently, I have neighbors upstairs who are doing a noisy remodeling job. They warn me in advance which days are going to be noisy and sometimes even text me a few minutes before to let me know when some abnormally loud banging is going to be taking place. Just the thoughtfulness and consideration in letting me know (since I work from home) is very helpful and makes not mind the noise at all.
Previously, we had neighbors who did very loud remodeling projects with no warning, so loud we couldn't hear the TV or phone conversations. Walls were shaking and it took place well beyond our allowed construction times. No warning at all. Other neighbors lost money from vacationing renters who didn't sign up to pay full price for super noisy accommodations, it was just a very bad situation. That experience taught us a lot about communicating and being thoughtful toward others. When we warn people in advance and maybe extend a gift certificate for the inconvenience, it goes a long way toward softening abrasive situations.
I have no patience for neighbors who disregard our rules and just common courtesies. The rules are put there for the harmonious living of all of us here on the property, and enhance the quality of life. There are those of course who will object to this being respectful and following rules part -- Those are the ones I don't get along so well with.
I had a neighbor make derogatory comments to me because I drive a Prius -- what the heck does it matter to him that I like to limit my gas use? Wow. There are lots of people who are against harmonious living, respect toward others and letting each person make their own decision within the laws how best to live their life.
I think the point is, that you get back what you give out. Whenever I'm confronted with someone who seems angry or whatever, I try to say something nice to them, and most of the time their disposition changes.
I get that, but there is also the harsh fact that most people are who they are and they act like themselves most of the time, no matter what other people give out to them. And over time, esp. living around other people, their true nature will come out, even after their initial welcome wagon manners wear out or are dropped.
Case in point, I hate rednecks and they usually take a quick dislike or hatred of me, because I don't hide who I am at all from them. So they resent me and I despise them. We are each other's cultural, and nowadays, political, enemies. So I don't waste any time pretending otherwise. I stay the hell away from them as much as possible, and as long as they avoid me and leave me alone, we will get along fine, as far as not ending up in physical violence or verbal confrontations, separated by the cultural fence, so to speak. Thus, I avoid rural areas and redneck, working class bars as much as possible, not because I am against working class people in the class wars, but because they usually see me as their cultural and economic enemy before I even open my mouth and let them know I am on their side, economically. Because they sense I have more education, money, and sophistication than them, so they assume I must be a conceited asshole who votes Republican or for corporate Dems and politically feels they deserve their economic woes and need to stay in their place.
@TomMcGiverin
But don't you think that if that's what you anticipate in a person, that is what you will see. I mean, I think that most of the time we see what we are looking for.
@ThinkingFree No, I disagree. I think most of us, including me, see what is there, not what we assume is there. I honestly don't think I am pre-judging that much, as you are implying. I am just applying my experience to the present. I have often checked my initial impressions of people later with others that share my views on things and gotten confirmation that I was seeing and reading these new people correctly for how they are. As far as rednecks, they look at someone like me, and assume from how I'm dressed and how I look, that I have to be their cultural and political enemy, because I don't look working class, blue collar, and redneck enough, so they assume from that that I am either a conservative or some liberal Dem who votes for the corporate Dems that sell them out. When the truth is that I am a socialist that is actually more on their side economically than anybody in the US. But it's all about appearances and past experiences with snobby upper class educated people that influences rednecks in who they hate, so I am not willing to waste my time trying to convince them I'm different and in the meantime get bullied and possibly assaulted because I invaded their enclave and made them feel uncomfortable with my presence.
I get the point they're trying to make, but I think it's kinda of shitty and dismissive of people who are genuinely good people who were stuck living near a bunch of assholes through no fault of their own.
Or maybe the farmer, as are most people here in Iowa and the Midwest in general, is too "Iowa Nice" or, as I see it, too chickenshit to actually speak up and voice a negative opinion on anyone. You don't live in my area of the country, where most people are infuriatingly too chickenshit to confront anyone or speak a negative opinion about anyone, esp. to their face. Unless they are really angry. So, I must dissent from the bandwagon opinion that this farmer is so fucking wise.... Some people are generally nice, friendly, and tolerant, others are usually assholes, and how they act is usually not that dependent on who they are living around or encountering from time to time.
I’m not impressed with the farmer either. Mfer talks out of both sides of his mouth….
@Buck Exactly, he's a chickenshit people pleaser, can't take a stand to save his life. Probably ought to go into politics as a corporate, centrist, Dem. I hate people like that, with no guts or integrity, and I won't accept them as friends, and also have no respect for them as people. I will accept friends who don't like confrontation as much as I do, but they have to be willing to take stands and not just tell people what they want to hear.