I'm not joking. We should refuse to accept any losses and then demonstrate by breaking windows and doors of state Capital buildings. Rumor is that it's not a crime.

I think we should continue to work within the system. Root out the bad cops. Repeal the bad laws. Jail crooked politicians. Sue slanderers and defamers down to their socks. Court marshall military personnel who violate their oath to uphold the Constitution. Impeach Justices who violate judicial ethics.

@Flyingsaucesir I obviously think you're wrong. Sheep get sheared and eaten.

@rainmanjr Sorry, I'm not going to start behaving like the people I despise.

@Flyingsaucesir Okay. You tell them that from jail (if you're that lucky). I'll carry a gun and pull it out if they come to arrest me.

@rainmanjr We're not there yet. But keep your powder dry.

@Flyingsaucesir I did say "If Dems lose this election." Certainly if this one causes us to lose 2024's.

@rainmanjr I would have to see bullet-proof evidence that the election was stolen. If we simply lose because we didn't turn out, didn't have the votes, then I will abide by the result. Again, I'm not going to start acting like a fucking MAGAt.

@Flyingsaucesir Once they start to go Kosovo on us and begin hunting us in armed militias, will you then be ready to give up on your high road rules, arm yourself, and start shooting back at them in the streets when they come for you? Or will you still trust in cops and the military being honorable and protecting you? Asking for a friend, lol....

@Flyingsaucesir I wish you were right, but I don't think we're going to have time to do that, even if the Dems had the political will, which they clearly don't. If the Repubs take control of both houses in DC, which I think they will, the descent into fascism will be too rapid to stop, as in two years the Repubs will also take the WH, and the dictatorship will be complete and very quickly implemented. You are too optimistic about our system.. I also don't think civil war can be prevented, and it may as well happen sooner than a few years later, let's get it over with and hope we win, which is doubtful also...

@TomMcGiverin If it goes Kosovo all bets are off, and rule of the gun. Of course I would fight back.

@TomMcGiverin I don't think anything is cut and dried. I do think things will probably get worse before they get better.

@Flyingsaucesir it will then be too late for scaring them, then. It will be kill or die. It might be too late now or they may be bent on the death. Spilling blood is a lust🩸