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Philosophy is a field of science that investigates reality and human existence, as in I am currently studying philosophy in college.

The word philosophy is also used to mean a specific doctrine based on such investigation, as in I wrote my term paper on the philosophy of Plato.

And philosophy is used more generally to mean a set of beliefs or an outlook, as in My philosophy on life is to be kind to everyone.

Philosophy is a complex, abstract field of science. It often analyzes difficult and ultimately unanswerable topics, such as the meaning of life, the morals and ethics of humanity, and what it means to be human. Philosophy is divided into the three branches of natural philosophy (nature and the natural world), moral philosophy (morals and ethics), and metaphysical philosophy (the nature of existence and origins of the universe).

In a related sense, the word philosophy is used to refer to the specific doctrines or schools of thought of a person who studies philosophy, such as Plato and Socrates, two famous ancient Greek philosophers.

More generally, the word philosophy means any set of beliefs or values. It could be a philosophy on how to organize societies, as with political philosophy. Or it could be your personal outlook or viewpoint.

Example: Jenny did some research on feminist philosophy to better understand feminism.

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Recently they are losing thier relevance- basically looking over scientists shoulders and criticizing. I also think $ influenced the whole history of the science. I appreciate your short history of philosophy- but for so much of it's history ( and at one point it was ruled by religion/ and the ELITE ) , they seem impotent as to guiding science and are more like playing catch- up 🟣
Thanks for the post☮

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I don't have much use for philosophy.
For me, it's not much more than people's opinions. Most of which, I don't agree with.
I think an awful lot of it is self-aggrandizing bullshit.

That said, the pursuit of knowledge is crucial. Don't ever quit. Critical thinking is in extraordinarily short supply.
Question everything.

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Philosophy is not a science, rather science is a philosophy. A sub set of natural philosophy, which probably occupies most of the ground attributed meaningfully to natural philosophy. But which is distinct from general philosophy, because it tries to use better rules and practices, which are possible only within naturalistic studies. These are usually called the scientific method, which is ill defined term, but which is generally thought to include, things such as, direct observation being foremost, experimental method, repeatability, everything being subject to change in the light of better evidence, peer review, and respect for mathematical proof.

Science is therefore philosophy but philosophy at its highest and most rigorous level, and as such deserves to be respected most of all among philosophies. Other philosophies are still valid however for use in fields where such methods can not be applied.

Deeply disagree. Philosophy of natural science purports to find truth and is wholly unconcerned with gathering evidence and conforming theory to find agreement with evidence.

Philosophy is instead an arrogant self-absorbed pursuit that does not embrace discarding incorrect ideas that run counter to evidence and the scientific method.

The law of gravity as newton wrote it was not wrong because of some syntactic trickery or other PNS complaint, it was right until a newer and more complete theory replaced it that supported more evidence . Math proves reality not contra-negatives

@Bullgator Yes I agree with you that philosophy is often in conflict with science. As often are parent and child, and I am no great lover of philosophy. But, if it is in conflict with science, then it is bad failed philosophy, because any good philosophy will recognize the primacy of science and its methods, if it does not, then you know that it is not good philosophy, and there is certainly a lot of bad out there.

In part because, there will always be people, narcissists especially, who reject science and even mainstream thinking generally. Because if you accept those, then there is no scope for you to pose as owning something special, which of course is what the narcissist most wants. So the vain egos have to turn away from mainstream knowledge, and create the pretence that they can find arcane wisdom, in things like bad philosophy, religious apologetics and meaningless terms like spirituality, in order to gain the power to pose as gurus and prophets and other vanity projects.

But philosophy was still the parent of science, Newton for example, called himself a philosopher, since the word science hardly existed then. And there are some subjects which simply can not be addressed by science alone, for which you need to reason and attempt to use logical thought, building hopefully on the science, but unsupported by direct experimental evidence. Then whether you like it or not, you are doing philosophy.

Sadly yes, modern philosophy is often of little real value, and is full of wild pretensions, but that is because in many ways, philosophy is a done subject. With most of the important and useful core work, including a lot of early science, and epistemology, being done early on. But there is still a small and real need for that early work, especially in subjects like ethics, and epistemology, and still a need to keep the subject alive in reserve.

@Fernapple unverified quote over on the FFR page

The logic of Christopher Hitchens;

"Religion ends where philosophy begins, just as alchemy ends where chemistry begins, and astrology ends where astronomy begins."

Those last two being observational progenitors of physics ( statistical/quantum mechanics and cosmology ) whose language is math. if you wanted to make the genealogy analogy , then you need many more generations between philosophers and physicists. That is , between Kant/Hume and modern physics of Bohr/Heisenberg

@Bullgator Nice quote. But why would you need more generations to make a genealogy analogy, there are no generations between parent and child. Indeed my analogy if anything fails for exactly the oposite reason, that there is in fact overlap, and many scientists have been both.

Agree- I believe it belongs more to science
as a PRIMARY guidence for humanity then a moral or belief system.
Thanks

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This is all philosophical of course!?!!🤨

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Gee thanks, i haven't felt this educated since freshman year of hs.....

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I have a philosophy....

BDair Level 8 Feb 9, 2023
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To me, philosophy is a science that proves time and time again that it is impossible to understand anything 100%. 😉 Good luck with your study.

Ryo1 Level 8 Feb 9, 2023
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Are you studying philosophy? Why did you place this information here?

Perhaps she just wants us to get to know her.

@Fernapple
I doubt the veracity of this person's persona. Typical of scammers to post this way

@skeptic70 Certainly. But Others may be interested.

@skeptic70 Definitely. Look at the canned definitions in all of her posts. Looks like automated writing, pulling generalities from the Internet. And no follow-up to anyone's comments or questions.

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I don't consider philosophy to be a science.

BDair Level 8 Feb 9, 2023

It is my understanding that the original purpose of philosophy was the acquisition of knowledge by raising questions about the world and our place in it. Through various forms of specialisation and the gradual expansion of knowledge accompanied by improvements in technology the role of philosophy changed from merely asking questions about the world and took on the role of category assignment. Philosophy is not a science in the sense of the hard sciences or even "soft sciences" and may be best thought of as the application of rigorous logic in determining to which category a thing or process belongs. Scientists have their own system of naming and classifying known as scientific nomenclature.

However, there are famous philosophers of science and one name springs to mind, Karl Popper. See the following link. [undsci.berkeley.edu]

No but science is a philosophy.

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Exactly. Philosophical Taoism is my branch of Taoist religion. It seems to have been the original intent of the lessons but some got carried away. They may have evolved Buddhism.

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Philosophy is not necessarily Science. “As in” you need to study further. But congratulations on wanting to be a thinker; the world needs more of them. Good luck in your studies and welcome to this site.

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Don't tell me, I got it! You are studying scammerism by R Soles.

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My sister is a well-known philosopher and author.. Be prepared to do lots of writing and publishing. Good luck in your field.

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The problem with philosophy is that opinions vary and if you trigger the wrong person they may punch you in the philosophagus.

If you must know I'm into Absurdism. It's when we get past the depression of nihilism accepting that life has no intrinsic meaning and live happy lives making fun of the absurd world that's killing us.

Great, you're trying to brought back my existential crisis.

"Philosophy is a complex, abstract field of science."
Philosophy is not a science in the traditional sense. Science is typically defined as a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the natural world. Philosophy, on the other hand, is a discipline that explores questions about existence, knowledge, values, reason, mind, and language, and often seeks to understand the most general features of the world and our place within it. While there is some overlap between philosophy and science, philosophy is typically characterized by a different mode of inquiry and a different set of objectives than science.

That being said, there are some areas of philosophy, such as the philosophy of science, that critically examine the methods and foundations of science. Additionally, some philosophical theories have been shown to have empirical implications and have been tested scientifically. In these cases, the boundaries between philosophy and science can become blurred, and it is often difficult to determine where one discipline ends and the other begins.

Science is also a philosophy, but a philosophy raised to a higher level, with better rules and practices. Unfortunately the best rules and practices can not be used for all aplications, which still leaves some ground for traditional philosophy.

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If Jenny lived closer maybe I would be interested in doing some research. I am not moving anywhere and not going to Ohio.

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Perhaps you can give us an example, in your words, of a syllogism? Which philosopher's works have you read?

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