Isn't it so nice and reassuring to know that Biden is preoccupied with what could be considered trivial matters while Putin and Xi are consummating their tyrannical bromance? What a shitshow, and yeah that's right pay no attention to a China-Russia partnership that of which could conceivably make life a living hell for the rest of us...
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Sorry to say this, but when you speak of "tyranny", perhaps you should look in your OWN back yard first. It was not the Russians or Chinese that invaded Iraq illegally, under completely false pretenses, and killed about one million people. It was not the Russians or Chinese that invaded Syria, once again, under false pretenses, cooked up lies about Assad, (Mattis admitted as much), stole their oil, destroyed their infrastructure, created hundreds of thousands of refugees who fled to Europe. It was not the Russians or Chinese that initiated a coup in Ukraine, supported ethnic cleansing in Donbass,and refused to accept democracy in Crimea.
Americans who are literally CLUELESS because they have the belief that they can trust their government and the media to tell them the full story, so they go on like children like many of us were, when we were told to say the Pledge of Allegiance, and the "under God", that came along with it. As an true agnostic also, I find plenty of reasons to doubt the government's bull shit . . . . has it not ever occurred to you that a nation that is truly defending itself does not spend the vast length of its existence waging wars? However, the USA has been at war almost constantly since its founding, and even more so since World War II. That is the footprint of a nation that is "defending itself"? Dropping nuclear weapons on two Japanese cities, that was a "defensive action"? Invading a sovereign country, upon the pretense that it has WMD, when in fact it had no WMD, AND the trumped up charges against it were fabricated . . . that is the footprint of a nation "defending itself"?
Don't believe me? Take your time and review the evidence, then once you have, come back and tell me I am wrong. Accept that challenge, review the evidence, then prove to me I am wrong. Prove it!
The 2014 coup in Ukraine was backed by the USA, remember the recording of Victoria Nuland, selecting who would become the leaders, and saying "F**k the EU"?
From Der Spiegel, November 26, 2009 :
NATO's Eastward Expansion: Did the West Break Its Promise to Moscow?
What the US secretary of state said on Feb. 9, 1990 in the magnificent St. Catherine's Hall at the Kremlin is beyond dispute. There would be, in Baker's words, "no extension of NATO's jurisdiction for forces of NATO one inch to the east," provided the Soviets agreed to the NATO membership of a unified Germany. Moscow would think about it, Gorbachev said, but added: "any extension of the zone of NATO is unacceptable."
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Obama admitted his role in the US-supported coup in Ukraine. (First video link below).
Victoria Nuland, Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs at the United States Department of State, admits in the second video that the USA supported the Ukrainian coup with 5 billion dollars. Note the Chevron symbol in the background of the video. John McCain (Senator Lovewar himself) and Victoria Nuland were in Ukraine in December 2013 amid the mass anti-government protests. (The third video is of John McCain in Ukraine addressing protesters.) During the visit, McCain met with Ukrainian opposition leaders in the country’s capital of Kiev, voicing his support for the protests, adding that he saw Ukraine’s future with Europe.
Obama admits the US-sponsored coup:
Donbass after the US-sponsored coup: Anne-Laure Bonnel
German ex-Chancellor Angela Merkel admits that they were lying about the Minsk Agreements.
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Three major corporations bought millions of acres of land in Ukraine immediately after the 2014 US-sponsored coup . . . . no planning there at all, right?
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This is the butt naked clown the USA government has such a hard on for, that they are sending Billions of our tax dollars to. .
Now Mattis Admits There Was No Evidence Assad Used Poison Gas on His People
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Nope, no tyranny here . . . .
@Archeus_Lore Talking about America's past dealings in corruption does not in any way absolve the evil Putin is committing now over in Ukraine, and if by chance you think what Putin is doing in Ukraine is either no big deal or justified then I'll be forced to conclude what the US did in Iraq was also justified. Also, you're attempting to compare two very different incidents, with the US's actions in Iraq not being motivated by genocidal tendencies as Putin's motives in Ukraine are. So simply put if the US was wrong in Iraq, fair enough, but then what Putin is doing now is also wrong, that's being fair. Lastly, I don't deny there's corruption in our Government, of course there is, but that wasn't the subject of the OP though.
@SpikeTalon Interesting how you say "Also, you're attempting to compare two very different incidents, with the US's actions in Iraq not being motivated by genocidal tendencies as Putin's motives in Ukraine are." This proves without a doubt that you did not review the evidence I posted. (Donbass after the US-sponsored coup: Anne-Laure Bonnel) So your words mean absolutely nothing to me, because like Christians do, you refuse to consider the evidence, maybe you are a closet Christian? I don't know, but I cannot respect a word you say when you come back with some bullshit directly, not having reviewed the evidence I posted.
@Archeus_Lore I have been met with similar evidence on other sites so I am hardly new to such, and said "evidence" is also a bunch of Kremlin-backed horseshit, and what makes you think I'd take any of that seriously? And just because you present something as evidence does not automatically mean it's actual evidence. Personally speaking and I've never made any secret of this, I don't trust any Government in the world ours included. I have no qualms in stating our Government is corrupt and in the past has committed questionable acts. Likewise, I have no problem accepting that Vladimir Putin is an evil tyrant bent on committing genocide against the Ukrainian people due to a longstanding grudge on his part.
What's the matter Shawn, someone doesn't go along with Kremlin propaganda is automatically wrong and somehow that means they must be closeted Christians or something? Oh please, spare me the Putin vatnik psycho babble, and worry not because I don't have any measure of respect for the "evidence" you presented either, so that makes us even. If what I previously mentioned really didn't concern you as much as you claimed then you never would have paid attention to it in the first place.
@SpikeTalon Poor boy, sorry to have supplied you with something that upset you. Go home to your mama and cry on her shoulder, and forget you were ever challenged to review evidence that might have made you use the few brain cells you have left, sorry to have made you work them so hard.
@Archeus_Lore Nothing you shared was upsetting, I simply didn't take any of it seriously was all, and for good reason. Also, I don't have a problem with you pointing out corruption in our Government, but I do with the pro Putin propaganda. Why pick one over the other? Both are bad news in my opinion. When you approach someone in a confrontational way as you initially did, small wonder why you were met with hostility in return. Maybe next time present your "evidence" minus the sarcasm, and maybe more people would take you seriously.
Lastly, I've been a vocal critic of the Iraq War since day one. That said, I am not about to compare that fiasco with what Putin is doing now in Ukraine, and still contend the motivations behind those two are quite different.
@SpikeTalon When you present your idea as one sided, you invite what you got back. The USA is its own worst enemy. Had they not driven Russia and China to an alliace, they would not have had to worry about it.