Big difference.

@Flyingsaucesir the difference obviously being that identification of Biden having the common malfeasant traits as Trump/Netanyahu also elicits raucous laughter.

@FrayedBear You cast aspersions but can't back them up with facts. It's just hot air.

@Flyingsaucesir I've corrected my response.
Btw around the world & I understand in USA there are calls for Biden to be indicted for supporting the Israeli genocide of Palestinian's in Gaza

[aljazeera.com]

& just to hand is a worldwide petition addressed to the alleged criminal Biden calling on him to cease the aforementioned genocide.

It reads:
US President Joe Biden:
As citizens from across the world we urge you to halt all military support to Israel immediately until they fully comply with international law, including the historic International Court of Justice emergency order to prevent genocide in Gaza. We also call on the US to enable a permanent ceasefire at the UN Security Council and help prevent a genocide, in line with your obligations under the UN Genocide Convention.
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@FrayedBear

Joe Biden has been calling on Israel to show restraint from the outset of this war.

Last time I heard, Bibi Netanyahu is Israel's prime minister, not Joe Biden.

The International Criminal Court just ruled that Israel has the right to defend herself.

There is a hot war going on. Hamas could end it today by surrendering and liberating the hostages.

Hamas is a creature of the Palestinian people. Hamas uses the civilian population as human shields, and that population basically signed up for that by giving rise to Hamas and allowing them to do what they do, i.e. build an extensive military tunnel system right under their feet, collect and stockpile weapons, train fighters, and carry out the most heinous terrorist attacks.

I'm just arguing one side here. We can also litigate the Israeli exercise of eminent domain, and whether or not the way they went about building the state of Israel was legal or fair to the (relatively few) Arab people who were there in 1948.

One thing is for sure: I would never plant a bomb on a bus full of civilians just because someone denied my ownership of a shitty little patch of desert. But then I have a different view of the value of a human life than the average Palestinian (or Israeli, for that matter).

The conflict between Israelis and Palestinians is a family feud. The two sides hate each other passionately, and this hatred surpasses all other considerations. It's hard for outsiders to comprehend. Both sides are willing to sacrifice their own children to their cause.

And what is the basis of this mutual hatred? Divergent religious beliefs. It's all about belief in brain-dead, childish superstitions. And for that I say a pox on both their houses.

The best thing outsiders can do here is stay out of it. The USA's role in trying to discourage other countries from getting involved is a legitimate one. So far, I think we have been effective. Yes there is some skirmishing around the edges, and that is to be expected, as long as Iran is ruled by a 14th century theocracy with 20th century weapons. At least Israel has not been invaded wholesale.

@Flyingsaucesir "Hamas is a creature of the Palestinian people. Hamas uses the civilian population as human shields, and that population basically signed up for that by giving rise to Hamas and allowing them to do what they do, i.e. build an extensive military tunnel system right under their feet, collect and stockpile weapons, train fighters, and carry out the most heinous terrorist attacks.

I'm just arguing one side here. We can also litigate the Israeli exercise of eminent domain, and whether or not the way they went about building the state of Israel was legal or fair to the (relatively few) Arab people who were there in 1948." . . . You really have soaked up the propaganda fed you all your life if you believe that crock of shit!
Do you believe in JC, holy ghost & father, fairies & the man in the moon as well?

Fact 1. Israel has the 4th biggest \ most powerful military in the world. In comparison Hamas is firing fireworks for rockets.
2. Prior to 1948 there were a few Jews living peacefully with many arabs in the Palestine Mandate controlled by the British, prior to the end of WWI it had been Turkey.
3. The Zionists now committing the genocide originate from Europe & have never lived in the area prior to 1948.
4. Any tunnels under Gaza should be of no concern to Israel as they are not invading the area alloted to israel in 1948. Therefore it is Israel & israel alone who is the invading aggressor not a defender. Much of the areas claimed by Israel are in fact stolen in behaviours over the last 80 years. Property obtained by criminal activity does not give ownership nor entitlement to defend it.

@FrayedBear Pretty stupid to go up against "the 4th biggest \ most powerful military in the world" with only fireworks, right?

I think you may have missed my point. Regardless of who has the right to be on the land, using terror tactics, e.g. bombing buses and trains, knifing passerby on the street, shooting journalists for publishing cartoons of the "prophet" Mohammed, bombing civilian aircraft, etc., etc., is out of bounds, inexcusable, totally unjustified. These are the tactics of Islamists, and for that reason I will always struggle to find sympathy for them. And I do try to feel that sympathy. But their behavior is so atrocious, it's hard not to just write them off entirely. Am I impressed by their will and determination? Yes. Do I think they have a point that can be litigated? Yes. Do I support the terrorist tactics they have adopted in lieu of legal litigation in courts of law? No!

In all the on-the-ground interviews with the residents of Gaza, I have not seen/heard one single person condemn Hamas for getting them into this mess. They only point the finger at Israel (and sometimes the USA).

If someone was using me as a human shield, I would be pretty pissed. But Hamas gets a pass from every Palestinian.

@Flyingsaucesir how unbelievably biased & hypocritical you are with your "their behavior is so atrocious" that you cannot comprehend that the behaviour causing that which you claim is because undertaken from the superior position is ten times worse. You merely advocate & support bullying, you opinion is null & void.

As has been pointed out by many more knowledgeable than I Hamas was a construct of Israel just as many US designed insurgent groups turned against their American creators. In this case there is very good reason why Gazan Palestinian's give them a "pass" - they are the only ones in the effing world standing up for them against Israeli & US genocide & bullying.

@FrayedBear So you're ok with blowing up random bus, train, and plane passengers. Well, no surprise. You have long supported Putin's missile attacks on people in apartment buildings, hospitals, and schools.

Pictured below: a maternity hospital and apartment buildings in Ukraine after Russian missile attacks.

@Flyingsaucesir to be expected from someone who makes no comment on the murderous genocidal intent of USA & 2014 Ukrainian puppet government perpetrating genocide against Russian speaking Ukrainians nor the 25000 dead in Gaza since October 2023 when the Israeli's commenced the genocide.
In terms of effect the Hamas October 7th action the result albeit sad for the deaths on that day & subsequently have had spectacular effect in convincing the majority of the world to the wrong & illegal behaviour of Israel government & its military forces.

Your photos look like Donbass buildings damaged by Kiev's mercenaries & military.

@FrayedBear That's exactly what Stalin said when he starved millions of Ukrainians: They did it to themselves."

@Flyingsaucesir So you now justify the US & their Ukrainian puppet government's genocide by quoting Stalin saying "they did it to themselves". Doesn't the same argument apply to Israel & October 7th?

@FrayedBear Same old fascist kleptocrat agitprop from the frayed Russian bear. I hate to break it to you bro, but you're boring me to death. 🥱

@FrayedBear BTW, the bombed out maternity hospital is in Mariupol. And the bombed out apartment buildings are in Bakhmut. Asshole.