Please pass on this post in every medium you can. Every single person we can convince to move away from Trump helps us save democracy:
To those I have and have not known, I am assuming that you , I am assuming that you are an upright, moral, and patriotic person. That being the case, I simply cannot why those of you who support Donald Trump do so . To me, that is simply beyond comprehension.
If Joe Biden had said and.or done one thousandth of he immoral, unpatriotic, and/or criminal that we know that Trump has done, i would never support Biden. Even at a personal level, if my child or grandchild acted in such an immoral, unpatriotic, and/or criminal manner, I would never support him or her in relation to such action. I would still love him but would insist that he or she pay the price for such an inappropriate act.
One of my grandsons did some things that were not criminal but that were totally inappropriate, and which have greatly damaged his career as a professional person. If he had asked me if he should have done things, I i would have said, "Hell NO!! I will not support you if you do that." But, he did them and I expect him to pay he price.
PLEASE, for the sake of our nation, our people, ad our progeny, reconsider your support of Donald Trump. His own words and behavior make him one of the most evil and destructive men in all of American history.
Joe Biden and the Democratic Party made a Trump presidency possible once and look set to make it possible again.
If Trump returns to power, it will not be due to Russian interference, voter suppression or because the working class is filled with irredeemable bigots and racists.
It will be because the Democrats are as indifferent to the suffering of Palestinians in Gaza as they are to immigrants, the poor in our impoverished inner cities, those driven into bankruptcy by medical bills, credit card debt and usurious mortgages, those discarded, especially in rural America, by waves of mass layoffs and workers, trapped in the serfdom of the gig economy, with its job instability and suppressed wages.
Biden and the Democrats, along with the Republican Party, gutted antitrust enforcement and deregulated banks and corporations, allowing them to cannibalize the nation.
The Democrats dutifully serve their corporate masters, without whom most of them, including Biden, would not have a political career. This is why Biden and the Democrats will not turn on those who are destroying our economy and extinguishing our democracy. The slops in the trough would dry up. Advocating reforms jeopardize their fiefdoms of privilege and power.
They fancy themselves as “captains of the ship,” labor journalist Hamilton Nolan writes, but they are “actually the wood-eating shipworms who are consuming the thing from inside until it sinks.”
Authoritarianism is nurtured in the fertile soil of a bankrupt liberalism. This was true in Weimar Germany. It was true in the former Yugoslavia. And it is true now. The Democrats had four years to institute New Deal reforms. They failed. Now we will pay.
So by not supporting Biden especially over one topic (of which he has little control) one thinks things will be different under tRump and his enablers. Most intelligent, reasonable people know things will get much worse for everyone.
Biden beat the pants off tRump in 202 and the 4 years of chaos and fighting were replaced by peace, a recovering economy and good governance. He has turned out to be a good president despite those who nit pick the few flaws that have arisen.
@jackjr under Biden policy continuing on from Trump policy that originated with Obama not only continued but escalated into billions of graft to create the Ukrainian proxy war & continuing genocide against Russians. It is now repeated in Gaza along with the shameful theft of Palestinian oil & gas reserves.
@FrayedBear Good thing you don't live here as so cannot vote in OUR system.
Your effing Biden in his support for the Israeli genocide occurring today is every part as guilty as Trump. But of course a brainwashed person like yourself will refuse to accept it.
The following photos are from a video showing the jewish atrocitities outside the Palestinian Jabalia Girls School. This video is being virulently culled from fuckerbuck's Fbuk site, Jewish controlled media & anywhere else complicit in the genocide:
And seriously Walt the 2 most egregious genocides of this century have occurred as a direct result of Biden's greedy corrupt complicity.
We all know and hate the atrocities that are going on in Israel but this is another country with another tRump type criminal as leader. If tRump gains control anyone who thinks he and his enablers will support the Palestinians over the Zionists have got rocks in their heads.
@jackjr if Biden was not complicit how come the IDF is paid for and largely armed through US manufactured weapons,planes & ammunition?
@jackjr please go & read "Does anything good come out of America & the Biden administration????"
@FrayedBear So don't vote for the Biden administration and see how 'wonderful' things will be under tRump and his republican enablers. All this sounds like another conspiracy theory. No one person can run an operation as big as this country. There is a huge administration and no one can keep tabs on the whole operation. Unfortunately, even if a president is perfect (none are) someone will find things to complain about. It is said you cannot fool all the people all the time but you can fool some of the people some of the time. Substitute 'please' instead of fool and that's what we have.
No more crap about Biden when the alternative is soooo much worse and then it will be to late and if one complains one will find themselves in jail or dead.
@FrayedBear he is complicit. Historically the US has coddled Israel. Why? Because we need an ally (lap puppy) in the region. Because so many rich Americans share their heritage. Because they're Gods chosen people, even if they killed the Messiah. Makes no sense and it needs to change. But I hate Drumpf more. He's worse.
@CallMeDave, @jackjr He's just done it again! "Butcher Biden at it again.".
FFS find someone else & elect them not this hypocrite of a now proven criminal complicit in & furthering genocide & war crimes.
You're as bad as these Jews who claim to despise the Jewish Zionist murdering reptiles but still don't openly state that it is not being done in their names.
@FrayedBear I'm as bad as what? This wasn't personal. Your verbal abuse says so much about you. Welcome to my squelch list .
@CallMeDave My pleasure.
It's the animosity against women, LBGTQ, non-whites, non-Christians, and progress of any kind.
It's the empowering of rudeness, cruelty, bullying, narcissism, dishonesty, and really immorality in all its forms.
It's the Incels, Christians, fascists, the willfully stupid, the fanatically partisan, and everyone else listening to idiots demonize others from behind a pulpit.
It's the paranoid, the unendowed, the abusers, those with borderline personality disorders...
"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" Trump remarked at a campaign stop at Dordt College in Sioux Center, Iowa. "It's, like, incredible."
We've all heard this but, apparently some paid no attention then and are still not paying attention and it will destroy the system upon we all depend.
"If Joe Biden had said and.or done one thousandth of he immoral, unpatriotic, and/or criminal that we know that Trump has done, i would never support Biden."
Only one thousandth of what Trump has done?
Nord Stream:- This after all the new "green" world he talks about, the greatest human release of hydrocarbons ever in one hit. Causing Europe to not only pay more or energy, but pollute more transporting energy. Commercial sabotage, nothing to do with defense, freedom nor democracy. Am I up to one thousandths yet?
Gaza:- Genocide Joe, Israel's enabler. He arms, justifies in words, abuses UN power of veto to enable. Another one thousandth? Border management/ human trafficking? Expenditure? Social cohesion? Upright, moral and patriotic?
Biden/ US state dept have backed themselves into a corner over Ukraine. Russia has won but Biden needs the conflict to continue as he will definitely not be re-elected when it is clear Russia has won in Ukraine. Because his record will be arming the Taliban, abandoning Afghani women, and NATO ambitions to expand being defeated in Ukraine, wiping out a generation. Russia and China now closer than ever. So Biden will avoid any peace until then, people will die still for political timing.. A wartime president, not a defeated one.
Now I am a foreigner non-voter so don't give a shit, none of my business, about domestic US politics. Don't care for Trump but he can stop the war in Ukraine and get NATO to pull their head in. He will still be a lapdog to Israel but at least stop the big war. Biden has too much to lose to stop it as Nord Stream and the April 2022 peace deal will be scruitinised and Biden et al will not look good. Nuland's role.
I think the results of the 2024 election will be Trump, Kennedy and Democrats. In that order. So my advice would be to vote for the independent, Kennedy. He will stop Ukraine as well. His 2nd place will wake up the Democratic party and they will be forced to reform and clean house. The two party system's hold on things needs breaking anyway.
The bad news? 4 more years of Trump. I think that is unavoidable so get used to the idea. But Biden, genocide Joe as he will be remembered, has been so bad I do not understand how he could be an option for any. To re-elect Biden, the "Don" obviously in his twilight years, is to reward his genocidal, warmongering administration. To even consider supporting him suggests TDS to me.
Voting Robert Kennedy Jr will tell both major parties people are not impressed with either of them.
Iaasume that you kinow that Ukraine was NECER voluntaruly part of Ruaais, It was annexed by Czarist troops in the late 1900s. Russia also, by direct poluicy and actionm, starved over 4 millions to death in the 1930s> There is no love lost in that relationshuipo.
You also seem to ignore of not be awareof the fact that since the 1600s, Russia has alwas had an inferiority complex in relation to Western Europe and later, also the USA> In its desire t be be more tat it was,, has always sought to dominate Western Europe and the USA to prive hat it was geater.
@wordywalt All I know is that 6 weeks after Russian forces entered Ukranian territory, a deal was agreed upon by Russian and Ukranian negotiators. That Zelenskyy, for whatever reasons, chose continued war instead. I know NATO was the sticking point, neutrality. The Russians were even willing to discuss Crimea in this deal in April, 2022.
I also know NATO destroyed Libya.
NATO is an organisation. Russia is a state. CIA bases, biolabs and NATO military arming and training happened in Ukraine since 2014.
Russia is not the aggressor here, should have been peace in April 2022 but no, NATO the military "defensive" block, must expand. An organisation's expansionist agenda more important than a nation states security needs. The state outrageously requesting the status quo remain, which is neutrality.
Neutrality, how unreasonable can you be? Ukraine is now paying for that failed NATO ambition.
Obama is in Europe now, visiting leaders. Why? Is he an elected official? No, he wants to keep Ukraine going until the election in November. Because he has things to hide re Ukraine as well.
@wordywalt Russia at one point under Putin desired to join NATO. How much of a stupid old twat are you to not understand the implication of that for the protection of all Europeans and the instruction of USA not to allow it?
@wordywalt You do understand Ukraine is not a European state? The EU won't accept them, too corrupt. Been trying for years. But joining NATO allows them a back door, or so they thought. EU still won't let them in.
"All European states have right to join together to protct each oher from aggression against any and all European states."
This is true. Look at a map. Neutrality for Ukraine makes sense and promotes peace. NATO expanding is obviously not promoting peace.
The Russian federation is not the USSR. They are not seeking to spread communism anymore. Their economy is kicking along nicely in a very diverse country. Why would Russia invade Europe militarily?
What gain?
The US has stated through Kirby and Austin that the aim of supporting Ukraine is to weaken Russia. Ukraine has been used. "freedom and democracy" and assisting "resisting foreign occupiers" is not plausible justification from the US to anyone with eyes. US was there to weaken Russia both militarily and economically through sanctions. A proxy war to cause so much pain on Russians Putin would be deposed.
fail. Big time. Now Gaza, fail again. Afghanistan withdrawal, "Spectacular success" that one.
Let Ukraine have peace and rebuild. Enough already.
NATO is a defense block of countries whose desired expansion causes war. Something wrong with that picture.
Problem is we do not have a dictatorship and plenty are free to criticize our leaders and the system. Many do forgetting it is not the actions of one person but a system in which a lot of people are involved. Biden has supporters and criticizers and it has become a balancing act. Everything that people criticize Biden over will get a LOT worse under tRump. We all know Trump will not take any criticism and his loyalist followers will bow down and do as he dictates. It seems a majority of his followers are simple not educated, unable to practice seeing all sides and practicing critical thinking are just plain scared what will happen should the POS get elected and what he will do to those that didn't support him. We have experienced his 'leadership' and hear what he will do if elected. With his increasing crashing mental state there is some hope he won't make it until the election and certainly not for the next 4 years.
@jackjr since 2022 in USA you have been subjected to the most unbelievable censorship outside of probably North Korea.
It is not interesting that the following report predates Israel's censorship of Gazan journalists by murdering them, USA censorship of its proxy war with Russia in Ukraine. Australia, Britain, France, Canadian & German censorship of the Israeli genocide in Gaza & the American proxy war in Ukraine.
[cpj.org]
@jackjr and now we have the ultimate form of censorship - murder the journalists , or anyone recording, as in Gaza:
[aljazeera.com]
@FrayedBear Just more conspiracy crap. I won't bother looking at some obscure piece as I actually live here and keep abreast of real news. GO AWAY!!!
What these people want is not the truth or even valid good advice
What they want is someone to tell them that what they want and are doing is the true and moral template for correct behaviour
And only a disgusting perverted amoral pile of shit like tRump and his foul brood will do that.
Love is blind. Their brains have developed so to be "locked" as Betty said. There are still Nazis out there. There is no harm in your appeal other than to frustrate yourself. These are the same people who supported George Wallace, the Vietnam War, racial segregation, oppression of women, death to gays, anti misceginism, Nixon/Agnew. Don't give up but don't jump off of the roof either. It is the independents who will decide this election. I don't think folks will stay home or vote for Jill Stein as in 2016.
Please watch this my friend.
A total distortion. I stood against the Russians in Berlin and I would do it again in a heartbeat, even at the age of 87.
@wordywalt You stood against the USSR. You understand MAD then. Do you understand that Biden loses face if he stops war in Ukraine but a new president will not? A new president would gain face and repair some of America's lost world standing? Is your hatred of Trump so great you prefer WWIII? Because that will happen if the incumbent president is re-elected.
@wordywalt the distortion is in yours, Bidens & many other stupid warmonger's brains.
Unfortunately, I have had to sever relationships with two friends after trying to no avail to get them to see the damage and lies Trump has brought on our country. They have also lost relatives over this. It's their loss, and sad, but they must suffer the consequences. Many people lost their lives to COVID because of Trump's murderous lies. Still their associates don't comprehend what's going on. I almost think that I don't get it, but there is innate tribalism hard wired in humans, and some just aren't smart enough or empathetic enough to understand. Why else would this happen repeatedly throughout human (and other primate) history? I wish we could evolve above this.
It is both sad andvery hard to understand.