Agnostic.com

7 0

What is the evolutionary strategy for religion? Every society has one. Or is it that no society without a religion has survived? Certainly for primitive societies religion answered a lot of un-answerable questions, but with knowledge many religions, fearing loss of political influence, actively opposed world-facts (as opposed to world-views), to the point of persecution. That's still going on today, 250 years after the enlightenment.

I tried to post the above, but it appeared as a comment on another member's post. Newbie woes!

FrankB38 4 May 9
Share

Enjoy being online again!

Welcome to the community of good people who base their values on evidence and appreciate civil discourse - the social network you will enjoy.

Create your free account

7 comments

Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.

0

I do not think it is entirely a case of religion having an evolutionary strategy, (though it does), so much as evolution not having a strategy for religion. Evolution only works retrospectively, if you survive the challenge of a change in your environment at all, then you get better at meeting the challenge over time, but natural selection can not foresee the challenges beforehand. And no animal ever met quite such a big change in their environment quite so quickly as humans did when they invented, first language and then culture. We have therefore no evolved tools from nature to deal with these things, and are thus ready made victims for anyone, (religious, political or commercial) who can manipulate language and culture.

0

Cohesive tribal groups are more likely to survive and, therefore, breed. That which aids cohesion thrives.

0

Evolution has no agenda or goal and evolution is not necessarily progress. Natural selection and survival of the fittest also does not necessarily mean survival of who is "right". For example, The Catholic Church terrorized and coerced people into having more children than they can afford. This still goes on today. On day, evolution may select out those who have certain religious beliefs. Those religions who refuse medical care are good candidates.

Interesting. One can hope evolution will select out those with religious beliefs, but I have my doubts. I was thinking about primitive societies. Since the enlightenment, religion has become less necessary for survival and, I believe, even detrimental to it.

1

Eventually I think all religions will fall to the realms of myth, which they all are. Unfortunately evolution is painfully slow in getting there.

1

Evolutionary strategy for religion? I doubt there is one. However, Most religions have several goals in common. They are: to survive, continue to grow, help people, save souls, and become more influential. But, I am not sure if this is what you mean by evolutionary strategy. Is it?
You say no society without religion has survived. I question that. China and Japan are, for the most part, atheistic/agnostic when it comes to believing in a supernatural deity. This is also becoming true for Europe and North America according to the poles.
My personal theory is that as societies become more reliant upon and trusting of science, they tend to be less religious. Evangelical religions are currently fighting for influence and survival. Many believe our President is their hope for making America a Christian nation.

I'm not sure about the lack of religion in China and Japan. The Japanese believed firmly in rebirth within 28 days. The Chinese had many religions, many gods. By evolutionary strategy, I mean why was a religion necessary to the survival of ancient societies? Things like dietary laws are an obvious need for the health of the people, Tribal unity in the face of enemy tribes may be another. These things are woven into the fabric of a religion for the well-being of members.

1

The missions statement for most of them?

  1. Breed more followers and don't ask too many questions.
  2. Get them to breed more followers and not ask too many questions.
  3. Get them to breed more followers and not ask too many questions.
  4. I think you get where this is going.

Religion doesn't really have a plan beyond that. Just keep pairing 2 people together, hope that they produce more than 2 offspring, raised to stick their fingers in their ears and shout 'la-la-la' very loud at the suggestion that the whole thing might be nonsense, and to also breed more than two offspring. The congregation increases exponentially with each generation (especially if you encourage large families.) Happy days.

Go forth and multiply.

2

I think religion is just an outgrowth of our intelligence. We have active minds, they can't always fully engaged in the literal world so they start making up stories and sometimes take them a little too seriously.

Write Comment
You can include a link to this post in your posts and comments by including the text q:77088
Agnostic does not evaluate or guarantee the accuracy of any content. Read full disclaimer.