For the most part, I agree with you. It's not just a mental health problem. Not all mentally ill people are violent and not all violent people are mentally ill. We need to identify and treat the propensity for violence. But, there are people who for whatever reason, should not be allowed any access to guns. It's going to take a lot of regulation just to make sure that guns do not end up in hands that should not have them.

I don't think it is necessary to abolish the 2nd Amendment, but we do need stronger controls.

I agree with you .whenever I hear of mass shootings I just assume it's someone else's Second Amendment right to annihilate kids. It's strange that as a country we could live with massive quantities of dead kids shot in schools without a problem. However, everybody's jockstrap gets in a massive wad if you talk about stricter gun laws. Thank goodness I don't breed people disgust me.

please elaborate on where that more civil nation is by naming it.

For someone who claims not to be a far-right extremist - you talk just like them. (A) This is not the greatest country on the planet - we're only #1 in three things and they're not good things. And please save the "so why do so many people want to come here" bit. It's not the second amendment that made this country - it was the people and you're right the people have changed. Having your own personal arsenal demonstrates how people have become warped and in return have warped the original intent of the second amendment.

You're wrong that background checks can't be made to work. If healthcare professionals, guidance counselors, probation officers and so on could report suicidal thoughts, a preoccupation with mass shootings, a history of domestic violence and the like - it would at least force the govt. to conduct a very thorough investigation before allowing that person to purchase a gun. And if nothing else, the longer it takes it may result in that person having second thoughts about what they're thinking of doing.

We can also apply the same logic to people who buy the ingredients to make a poison powerful enough to kills 100's or the materials to make a bomb that could kill 100's.

Finally, the Constitution and Declaration of Independence (the second has nothing to do with gun rights) were written well over 200+ years ago - people were different then and the issues they faced were just as different. If we're ever to become the advanced society that we have the potential to become - those documents need to change and keep up to date with the changing times and the dysfunctional evolution of its citizens. But that's never going to happen as long as there are backwood country fk's like yourself who say "I will die if necessary fighting to defend those pieces of paper that made this country the greatest land on this planet" - it demonstrates that you don't have a clue what you're talking about (dangerous) and it proves that your kind has to die off before this country can ever reach its full potential.

Hmmmmm, not one of your guns has killed a human, so why do you need them for "protection"?

@slbushway america is the greatest country

@nvrnuff just in case some human breaks into my home then they will kill humans, or if anyone near me want to commit a mass shooting I will kill them as well would not think twice and I will go to sleep just fine.

@Bloodmoon There's no evidence to support that - but there's a ton of evidence that proves the reverse is true - is reading outside of your comfort zone?

@Trajan61 well what did the founding fathers think of AR-15s in other military style weapons...... oh wait they only had muskets!

@Bloodmoon I could be standing at the foot of your bed before you ever know I'm there.

@SLBushway if you don't think America is a great country why do you live here?

@SpikeTalon What the liberal say / do / don't miss.... is irrelevant to me.

I believe you are right about this kid being bullied and while I do not condone what he did, and I want him in jail forever, I am not surprised by his actions.

People think they will solve the problem by removing the guns when the real problem is a very different one...A victim of bullying will -eventually- react...and he/she will react big.

@SpikeTalon you're goddamn right! That's the logical thing to do. Mass shootings are not something that we should be okay with. It doesn't bother gun nuts but a load of dead kids in school it's something that's upsetting to us

@Kojaksmom Again, while I don't condone his actions I would appreciate if people did a lil bit of thinking....since this kid also had home-made bombs set inside the school....As I said many times, no the guns but the people are the guilty ones....

Many things can be used as weapons....and bombs kills more and faster than revolvers.

WRONG

Right. The answer is always more guns.

@NFAguy53 Why are you assuming I am on a particular "side"???
That's one of the biggest mistakes you could make. I said absolutely nothing about 'gun free zones'. I have never said anything about 'gun free zones'. You are making an extremely false assumption. This is one of the reasons it's so difficult to have a reasoned, rational discussion. It is quite possible to support the 2nd Amendment and not the NRA. Please don't assume you know where I stand on anything, unless I tell you where I stand.

@KKGator Its very obvious where you stand and it’s damn sure not for the second amendment!!

@KKGator That's what they do, it's written in their manifesto.

@nvrnuff You sir are the one whose wrong!

@Trajan61 You are mistaken. But hey, go ahead and continue to be wrong.

@Trajan61 Highly unlikely

Your the one who is sick. @Lancer, @SpikeTalon, @NFAguy53

@Trajan61
Society isn't sick. sick implies it's condition has degraded from the normal. Also it's not just gun issues, it's the factors that lead up to gun issues which haven't been addressed for decades.

[rollingstone.com]

@schwinnrider

No offence, but The Rolling Stone magazine is not known for its foreign, global investigative journalism.

It's a music magazine for pretentious posers.

[npr.org]

This is America, there is never anyone or any organization that could ever get enough money.

@schwinnrider I read this article. Interesting.

These are just kids committing these heinous acts. Throw them in jail for life ,and throw their parents in jail for life. It'll be interesting to find out how this little f*** got his weapon.

Psychotropic medication should be replaced by marijuana.

@TheInterlooper not really, the one guy's father gave him his gun back after law enforcement took it away.

@TheInterlooper no it's really not

@TheInterlooper I believe bad parenting is at the root of this problem. Parents should be the one that take part of the blame when something like a school shooting happens. And it should be extreme extreme punishment. Maybe then parents will take some concern about what the f*** their kid is even doing. Perhaps that will force more people to think twice about having children in the first place

No I think Russia enjoys watching our society being ripped into pieces. We may not be able to get rid of all guns that would mean changing the Constitution. However, we can tighten our laws and ban assault style weapons that kill massive numbers of people and extremely short periods of time.

what do you consider assault riffle ? if you mean something like AR -15 well not really, its still a hunting riffle, used them self to go hunting. for like deer and elk. i can fire my 9mm just as fast as an ar-15 can fire. just saying, and i have done it myself at the range. our laws are pretty strict as it is... but most states or alteast half will not report to the federal data base on people. doing so would change alot too. just saying.

@notconvinced an AR-15 has been the weapon of choice of all mass Shooters this far.

@cobra3282000 how many rounds you need and how close do you have to get to kill an elk with that 7.62 comp civilian 308 round?

@Kojaksmom its cheap and takes a clip is why, still doesn't make it an assault riffle.

If Russia were to invade us, all the hand held weapons in the world aren't going to make one bit of difference.

@TheInterlooper Idiot, you think they'll actually put boots on the ground, you're beyond ignorant.

@TheInterlooper, @cobra3282000 If that's what you are using, you're no hunter.

I've "liked" your statement as a way of sharing your anger and frustration with these heinous crimes.
I feel that the insanity involved must be somehow identified and treated. But not the gun.

Just as this religious insanity must end. Care to make a prediction of when it will happen?

The reason why Japan never even attempted to land on our shores, and they could have, was the fact that their leaders were afraid they would be an American citizen hiding behind every rock, hill, and crevasse waiting for them. It's not just for government, plus we all have the right to defend our own lives by any means necessary the criminals will have them regardless of any law.

@NotConvinced perhaps you're correct but to do you really need an assault weapon to do it? Do you have to stockpile in case some bad person might break in your home? No one is suggesting that we will end gun violence, it won't happen .people are stupid animals that cannot be self-governed and will always make bad choices and do the wrong thing.

@Bloodmoon Your one of the few who is making any sense. Why don’t you join our conservative atheist or constitutional conservative group. Or join both of them. There are a lot of like minded conservative people on those 2 groups. Unfortunately most of the people on the main forum seem to be Trump bashing, Obama loving, gun grabbing left wing liberals.

@Bloodmoon That was in the 40's man. C'mon, if someone were going to invade do you really think it would be with troops on the ground? Get real.

@Bloodmoon, @NotConvinced When's the last time you shot a citizen?

@NotConvinced and it's also called a bunch of dead kids

@Bloodmoon I personally think that even increasing the age for buying assault weapons to 21 would help get them out of schools. Teenagers are not fully developed they're violent pack animals .They did the same thing with alcohol and it actually did work. The overwhelming majority of Americans want to see some form of gun control. No one is talking about ending the Second Amendment.

@NotConvinced as I've said before people are animals were never going to stop killing each other. Just because the Second Amendment exists doesn't mean that it can't be amended. The Supreme Court ruled on abortion. However that does not mean the procedure is not heavily regulated.

@Kojaksmom increase the age to 21 to join the military as well them they put the same M4 (ar-15) that you can purchase at any gun store.

@Kojaksmom, @nvrnuff this world is getting crazy and may possibly be on the brink of a 3rd world war. If Iran gets a nuke and hit Israel guess what WW3 is going to happen so it's not far fetched to believe it could happen history shows every great nation eventually will crumble if its in my lifetime I'm prepared and my friends family and those aroumd me who can't defend themselves will at least have a chance or the means to continue living and being Americans.

@NotConvinced it's the truth. Whenever the topic of gun control comes up conservatives go ape shitt

@NotConvinced, @Bloodmoon you're supposed to kill people in the military you're not supposed to kill people in f** high school. If teenagers become irrationally obsessed with military style weapons, assume they're killing machines and throw them in the military.

@NotConvinced emotion is when you refuse to realize that every other country has some form of gun control and they don't have mass shootings anywhere near the numbers we do. The only thing that conservatives do care about is their guns. It's not a emotion ,it's been proven to me over and over and over again