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Then there is the cost of the second amendment "freedom"
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I like your post but I'd like to see the source that supports the statement. Makes more of an impact to it.

@buzz13 snopes.com exact numbers are impossible, but they confirmed that the numbers of civilians in the U.S. killed by guns just since 1968 is easily more than the total for all U.S. wars combined.

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One problem I see is that several of those wars we lost. When will we learn to be a little more cautious. So much of our tax dollars go to prop up the military which continues to engage in these folly's of death.

@Theskeptic I see that as partially true. The military also has a lot of influence on the civilian leaders. Remember, it is the high ranking military leaders careers we are talking about. We also need to understand the military has now become a major source of JOBS.

@Bobby9 Then why are we so quick to get into a way. Many were in favor of combat at the first world way and W was eager for us to get into a war with Iraq. When a leaders popularity falls then war becomes a distraction and many leaders use this stupid tactic.

@Bobby9 I don't think things have changed much. Many leaders may not be in favor of a war (but they will push it if so ordered) but there are plenty that support tRump and his ilk and will be in favor of anything he says. No I can't think of any individual(s) but I know they are there because I know history and I know the military (I am a disabled, Viet-Nam era vet). I am also a graduate of the Univ. of Md. European Division.

@Bobby9 There is some confusion here. Being in favor and supporting something can be 2 different things. There are lots of leaders and I don't know them all or care about their attitudes. I am going from my own experience and I also know things don't change much. I also like to remember it is the job of military to fight wars. Imagine what absolute peace would do to the ranks and need for such a large military as we have. My best friend was an army engineer during the first gulf war and he was super gung ho. That experience changed him totally. There are lots of brass that have not and will not change.

@Bobby9 I as in the Army Security Agency which came under NSA not DOD. I served 4 years and most of my work was about compliance on the SALT talks with the Soviet Union. We obviously had different experiences and knew different people. I think we must agree to disagree.

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How many deaths has religion caused?Many many more than this.

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It is a real shame that we can't have peace.

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