I become very annoyed and furious when I here politicians,Government officials or anybody representing the public refer to prayer in their speeches or announcements such as :they will be in our prayers , let us pray for them ,we will be praying for them etc,etc .Half of these bums probably do not even believe in religion or a God
As a candidate, I NEVER mention anything about prayers, god, or other religious bullshit. If you want to believe, that's OK with me, just don't do it on the taxpayer's dime. Tax ALL religious property and income, just like the government taxes me! Ever wonder why the religious leaders want your money? They never seem to help the homeless unless there is something for them.
Sadly, our nation is full of religious zealots... the fact is that we were founded that way as we were founded by people representing several different beliefs running from religious persecution. Thus, we started with christians, quakers, calvinists, catholics, protestants, lutherans, etc, all who had a slightly different view of their beliefs from the church of England and thus were not considered acceptable in England.
Fast forward and we STILL are a very religious land. If you want to survive in politics, you'd better profess to "believe" or you will lose the religious vote. If you are "christian" you are acceptable by many factions. If you are jewish you might lose the christian vote.
If, however, you are agnostic or atheist, you will lose ALL of the votes of the religious people as they will think (and their clergy will proselytize them to believe) that you are opposed to religion and thus will 'oppress' their views... ironically, most atheists and agnostics I know support others in believing however they want to (yes, there are some atheists who don't fit this mold but...) and thus a leader of such belief would be more likely to support said beliefs than one of a differing theist bent.
It's a mixed up muddled up world.
I don't believe that they are agnostic or atheist - because we tend to try not to lie to people. As a politician, you either lie or get voted out. As a society, we need to make sure the liars aren't elected, and we need to make sure they're rewarded for sticking to their principals, even if they feel they're staring down the barrel of a loaded gun. Unfortunately, as we saw with this last election, the entire planet seems to enjoy being lied to... Sad...
The worst thing about that, to me, is that it substitutes for actually taking action. They send prayers to the families who have lost children to gun violence, they send prayers to the American citizens in Peurto Rico. But their job is to actually address problems like that and INSTEAD they βsend prayersβ and DO NOTHING. Itβs really a big F you.
Very good point .The audacity to pass off their responsibilities to rectify a disaster to a God is so moronic it infuriates me.
Same here. ...I remain a fan of President Clinton (guess Iβll never know how weβd have distinguished between βthe twoβ ), and was thrilled to listen to a live address in Seattle during his initial run. There was even a question about state/ church separation that he answered βexpertly.β The crowd roared! Days later, somewhere in the SE US, heβs trotting to events with βhis bible.β He got my vote but lost my initial enthusiasmβ¦
Unfortunately, they do what needs doing, or, they lose.. That crap of βthanking godβ and βblessing usβ has definitely increased over time - Reagan appeared the vector. Ironically, J.E. Carter, sincere in his ..convictions, had the dignity to keep his religion to himselfβ¦ And though I expected more in the form of βless god blessing BSβ from Obama, it had become nearly mandatory for him to play into it..
You know ... if we survive trump - it may be time for an unabashed Atheist ~
More people would vote for a child molester than an atheist. And that is based on a poll from BEFORE Roy Moore.
@A2Jennifer ...give em three more religion-laced years ~
In a lot of the states of the USA they have to play the game.
Agnostics don't know, atheists don't believe, for a modern politician their spin team balances the cost of alienating other religious groups and the non religious against a broadly christian population and come up with the same placating sound bites.
A sort of irritation fills when I hear a public person says these stuff.
it's like having open sex.
Politicians equals liars and hypocrites
...seems thatβs what it takes to represent the same..
Even their own bible urges deeds (done quietly!) above blatting empty phrases. TA, disgusting waste of valuable air.
Ramen.
Crowd appeal... to sheeple. Am hopeful with time, enlightenment, that folks eschewing belief in such nonsense will garner more votes.
I haven't heard that term in ages
I also get extremely angry when I here this drivel , because this indicates that they are completely ignoring any nonbelievers . I take this as an insult to my intelligence
Most big time preachers don't believe in God or religion. That's how they can control things. Their money too.
My current fantasy for making money if I end up unemployed is writing an awful conservative christian women's blog, just being the worst of all. I know they would suck it up, and I know enough scripture to twist it around. I'm not sure I could live with myself though.
@HippieChick58 I had a similar, but less wholesome plan when I was younger.
Studying orginisational psychology, hypnosis and charismatic movements. With only 30 people tithing, I could do three times better than my followers, my affluence would be proof of the spirits approval of me.
Sadly, from what I have seen, it's a short path from there to going bat shit crazy and believing in your own crap.
Yep, makes me wanna barf. Pray in one hand and spit in the other and see which one fills up first. Thoughts and prayers and not preventing children from dying!
Yes ,I donβt like that thoughts and prayers crap either
@HarrySlick Thoughts prayers and about $5 gets you a cup of coffee round here.
Come to think of it, Just the $5 does the same.