So help me, if I were ever to win the lottery for a significant amount of money,
I'd be creating a mechanism to get women abortions when they want them.
I'd be providing transportation, lodging, childcare, whatever they needed to make
sure they had access to safe abortions.
I don't even give a shit about "legal" anymore. I'd make sure I could hire lawyers, too.
Then, I'd be advertising in all the states that are restricting abortion.
I'd start an underground network that women could contact when they needed help.

I bet, before long, I wouldn't be the only one funding it either.
Fuck these assholes.
I really wish I could tell them ALL off, and tell them to shove their god up their asses.

I'm pissed and I want to DO something about it.
Voting has obviously not been enough. Working in clinics hasn't been enough.
Doing picket duty hasn't been enough.

What pisses me off even more than the men who come up with these bullshit laws, are the women who vote for these religious assholes knowing that other women will be harmed by this law. It was a woman Governor who signed the fucking bill. Alabama has been a backward red state for a very long time. I don't see that changing anytime soon, so expect more of this kind of shit in the future.

The governor , who signed this bill into law , is a WOMAN ?

Damn it!!! I accidentally posted before I was done, and I am not being permitted
to go back and edit.

Rape should carry the death penalty.
I'm really starting to change my position on vigilantism.
If rapists suddenly started turning up dead, it might make some of them think twice.
If they don't, they could be eliminated, too.
I'm really okay with women starting to take the law into our own hands.
You know, since the fucking law is not protecting us.

They wanted to make getting a vasectomy a felony too. My God, who are these people?!

In my state of Washington there is a one year statute of limitation on reporting a rape. I spent two years writing letters to every single politician in the state trying to find out how to get this changed. Only one ever responded, and he told me it was going to be an uphill battle and I could look at 10 years or more of active lobbying to even try to get someone to listen. This is in a fairly progressive state and it just showed how unimportant women are to society in this country. I was raped and molested four times from the time I was 3 until I was 19. The worst was when I was 14 and I was raped repeatedly by my boyfriend for two months. No one noticed and I never told anyone, about any of it, but especially this one because he threatened to kill me if I did. I have no doubt he would have since he is not spending life in prison for 1st degree murder. He raped 6 other girls that same summer. I kept my secret about all of these for 50 years, until finally during chemo I had an emotional breakdown when all of the memories came flooding back. I finally got therapy for the trauma and I am still angry about it all. When I first started talking about my own rape stories, I was called a liar, a slut, people blamed what I was wearing, where I was, what I was doing, and me just simply because I was female. The rapists were never blamed. In this country, less than 2% of rapes are ever reported. Of those 2% less than 2% of rapists are ever arrested. Of those 2%, only 2% of those arrested are ever convicted. Now these numbers fluctuate depending on when and where the reports come in, but since Donald Trump started bragging about sexually assaulting women, assaults and rapes have increased, and while more women have started to report their assaults, thanks to the #MeToo movement, arrests and convictions have dropped even lower. I expect them to drop even more and expect to see the number assaults to increase.

"Alabama’s bill to impose a total abortion ban, passed by the male-dominated state Senate on Tuesday night, is so extreme that in some cases, it would impose harsher penalties on doctors who perform the procedure than those who actually commit rape or incest."

I don't think any vote should count, regarding cases of rape and incest, unless the lawmaker casting the vote has been a victim of either.

As a survivor of both incest and rape, I can attest to the fact that forcing a woman to carry out the pregnancy could very well cause physical harm to her from an abusive father, husband, boyfriend or rapist.

How is a woman to prove her health/safety is in danger from the male who impregnated her? Tell her story to family/friends/authorities who won't believe her, will disown her, ridicule her and worse? Not going to happen.

My fear is that we will see an increase in pregnant women committing suicide, or being murdered, and/or back alley illegal and unsafe (botched) abortions, given this harsh law.

Women who are victims of rape and incest often do not come forward, out of fear. The men who impregnate women and girls this way would rather see the pregnancy (or the woman/girl) go away then to be responsible for the embarrassment and financial responsibility for bringing a child into the world.

Many people say that adoption is the answer. That is also a horrific decision to place on a pregnant woman, and is also a punishment, in addition to the pains and financial burdens of being pregnant against her wishes, loss of work, stigma, etc.

Who pays for the medical costs of a woman forced to give birth against her wishes, due to rape or incest? I fear it is the woman, with her life.

@HappyKilbot
You know what? I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but that's not what the pervasive problem is, now, IS IT?

The problem is a whole lot of men and rampant misogyny.
The problem is some men still thinking they have a right to control women.
I'm sick of the "what abouts?" Shove the "what abouts".

Sharia. No matter the religion or language. These imbeciles give men a bad rap.

When the Evangelicals (this is the Bible Belt), want to prove their power, nothing is off the table! They want ‘things,’ like they were in the olden days...these people cannot THINK past this point! Theirs is an imagery life! Makes no difference to them that WE all are going to pay a price for their actions and inability to think past the ‘dark ages!’ God has told them, ‘what is what’...end of story!

My edit button is broken. I think I've changed my mind about talibama. I don't really want to see it burn ,but I think I'm going to put on my pink pussy hat and go burn that mother fucker down myself. Who's in?

Talibama, number 49 in everything. it's literally a shithole state. I hope burns down.

<a href="https://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/#data" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" class="forumlink">[pewforum.org]

So yeah, I agree that men aren't solely to blame for this. It's actually pretty even, and like @jorj said, a lot of women voted these people into office knowing damn well what their views are.

The number of people who believe abortion should be legal or illegal is also surprisingly even across all ages and races, and the majority are for abortion being legal.

Religion, political ideology, and education level are mostly to blame for this mentality, not gender.

Abortion belief based on religion:

<a href="https://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/#data" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" class="forumlink">[pewforum.org]

Abortion belief based on education level:

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The whole thing is insane. Anyone, man or woman who thinks this is right has to be a very limited thinker.

And a female governor signed it into law. But no matter, all that has been accomplished is that Alabama has again proved to the rest of the country (and the world) how ignorant and backwards they are (they are currently ranked 5th lowest in education in the US). The first time this law gets challenged, it is going down hard. It's any lawyer's wet dream come true. In fact, so much so, that I almost wouldn't be surprised to learn that the Alabama Bar Association was behind the legislation.

@jorj
It was a female christian republican governor who signed the bill into law.
I have no use for the women who continue to vote for anti-choice, pro-birth republicans, male or female. I have no use for women who believe in gods.
I am NOT "creating a double-standard". The double-standard was created a
LONG time before I ever showed up.

I get to feel any way I want about the issue.
I do not need to be lectured by you, or anyone else.
The patriarchy needs to die. No matter who is supporting it.

I hate this issue because both sides have valid moral arguments, science can be made to support either side, and there is no wining only damage control. So screw all of it, I have a creative solution.

So, what this argument boils down to is a simple question: Should someone have the right to do what they want with their own body, even if that harms or kills someone else.

Whats the closest thing we have to that? The best answer I can think of is live organ donation. Most people would be willing to give up an unnecessary organ to save someone else's life, but isn't it different because you are hurting them through inaction rather than action? Not to mention severity? Well, maybe not. You can live without a kidney, but what about something more extreme, like a lung? You give up a lung that will change your life in a lot of fundamental ways. You end up with the same moral dilemma. If you chose to donate your lung, your life and the life of someone else ( lung donation requires two donors, one provides each lobe ) are permanently altered. On the other hand, the life of someone you have never met dies.

Okay, so how does live organ donation work on the legal side?
First off, a living organ donor can not be paid under the legal organ transplant act of 1984.
The transplant will be paid for by both the donors and the recipient's insurance.
The decision to donate an organ is the responsibility of the donor or their legal guardian if they are a minor.
If the organ is to be donated to someone who is not family to the donor, the donating individual must be met by a council who will determine if the organ is to be donated out of purely altruistic intention, considering the above statements.

There are a lot of good considerations here that don't get often discussed.

Since replay button doesn't work, here is just an observation to a comment below regarding a "male dominated senate"... The bill has been approved and signed by the governor that happens to be a woman. I just find interesting this little detail keeps getting overlooked. Again, just an observation. I don't have a stand either way.

Ah yes, the Sundays Only Christians, Pro-Lifer Movements, etc, etc, ad infinitum to which ALL Life is Sacred BUT have no qualms/compunctions when it comes to THEIR Country bombing another country, taking the lives of innocent men, women, children, babies and unborn babies BUT scream like stuck pigs about Women having control over what happens to and within THEIR OWN bodies, the BLATANT hypocrisy runs riot does it not?

@Happy_Killbot

I am unable to reply to specific posts. The "reply" and "edit" functions are not working for me. Haven't been all day.

I do not give a shit about liberals, or the left.
Never have. I am not part of either. I'm also not a democrat.
I'm not a fan of labels.
Although, lately, I'm leaning more toward anarchy.

Further, what would be so wrong about establishing a matriarchy anyway?
The patriarchy has had more than enough time to fuck everything up.
Seems like it's high time that the women should get their shot at it.

There is NEVER going to be "equality".
Time for the pendulum to swing back in the other direction.

@jorj
Kindly take your bullshit and stuff it.
You chose to comment on my post, you continually imply that I'm "on the left".
It IS about me. Your passive/aggressive bullshit is tiresome.
You claim to have facts but you're making your shit up as you go along.

I see everyone is having a good time in the comments section. No one is overreacting at all. Good show.

@Happy_Killbot

I do not care about whether or not I'm "supporting a double-standard" anymore.
It doesn't matter to me. It's time the shoe went onto the other foot, and fucking stayed there.

We are too far gone to be concerned with being "fair to both sides". That's how
we've gotten where we are.
Trying to be "reasonable" has been repeatedly proven to be a complete waste of time and effort. Don't even come at me with that bullshit. Being reasonable is a
whole lotta horseshit meant to keep us quiet.

Women have been "too nice", and "too fair". We've been shouted down, pushed
out of the way, run roughshod over, and generally treated like shit.
I'm fucking DONE.

KILL THE PATRIARCHY.

Many females could die without a life saving abortion. My ex would've died from high blood pressure if she carried for long and I know it's a sensitive issue, but some don't have much choice as the baby will have complications as well in an unhealthy person.