Here is a selfie. Kinda old pic, my hair is a bit different now. I enjoy floating and travel with family

If a man did this to a woman, he'd be flayed and then burned at the stake. I think posting his picture is in really bad taste. You could have made your valid point without personally shaming him.

Deceptive, perhaps .. liar, no. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

To be certain that you are honest with Dave, you need to tell him about how you rub yourself off in the dental chair.

I have one question, if he seems like, he is not being honest, why are you meeting him?

Still looks pretty good to me - though clearly not 65. I expect faces to age - but I look at the shape they're in, as it tells so much !

Seems one of the main reasons for dated photos, is that some aren't secure enough with how they look now, and strive to lure someone in with a better version of themselves. But if they plan on actually meeting people in person, this ploy can backfire big time ! They don't seem to get that.

I once met good sounding guy. I waited in my car, and he drove by, obviously recognizing me and slowing down - but I didn't know who he was ?? We got out and talked a few minutes, and I asked him what was going on ? Turns out, he had used a picture of his grown SON ! In person, he looked pretty worn, and rather unhealthy. I was frustrated by the whole thing, and told him so. Wasted time. Bye.

Oh, I don't know. My now-wife's first picture sent to me was a good 10 years old. But she hasn't proven to be untruthful whatsoever. She was, and is, insecure about her appearance. Her social media photos are always the ones that have her in the ideal light and angle; for awhile, it was one that was professionally airbrushed. She'd neither untruthful nor vain in any other respect. It's a compartmentalized thing; it has never bothered me.

I think sometimes people do this with dating profiles because they feel like they get prejudged and never have a chance to present themselves. In other words the process is fundamentally broken. A similar phenomenon exists in interviewing for IT positions; the laundry list of qualifications are so often wildly unrealistic that it's implicitly understood by all applicants that everybody lies through their teeth because no one can possibly literally meet the stated qualifications.

I think women should get more of a free pass here than men, as society is particularly unfair and hard on them meeting arbitrary appearance demands. But even with men, if they're willing to meet you as-is, it's a small transgression in my view. I'd have to see WAY more of a pattern in a suitor to question their integrity and character.

Wishing you a great evening and hope all goes well

"You can't judge a book by its cover." Go meet him. He hasn't changed that much since. Maybe you could be impressed by his joy of life, his spirit, his sense of humor, etc. etc.

My photos are 2 years old and I should update them. I feel insulted when I meet someone whose pictures are obviously deceptive, and I see no advantage in treating anyone else that way.

That being said, it's hard for me to sympathize with those of you who were born good-looking. You've benefited from that all your lives. The rest of us have to live with being passed-over continually.

My rule is: I will meet any woman who wants to meet me. I know how it feels to be rejected just for failing to be beautiful.

Don't know why people deceive with yesteryear's photos. That's not fair to anyone having meaningful communication with intent to meet. Last photo pretty much sums him up. Good luck. Holding thumbs.

Sounds like attractive and athletic is of importance to you as it is to many people. Did not hear about his religious views. I Haven't been looking for relationships other than shared good times for 50 years so I'm not an expert on this but I don't think I could have a meaningful and successful intimate relationship without commonality in critical thought, Humanism and non religious views. I do wish you success and hope you find happiness with your new friend.

Yes, definitely a bad sign. First impressions are nearly always right.

He doesn’t seem to have changed much if there’s supposed to be 20 year difference in the two photos. Even his hair is virtually the same...!

Posted an old photo? what was it taken with a Kodak brownie?

Why are you even meeting him?

Based on this & your previous post, looks are important to you. You are attractive so I would think I understand where you are coming from. However, from a distance it sounds shallow to me.

Online dating site. Pictures 1-2 years old. I am smiling. Good teeth (twice a year to the dentist). Close up pictures and full body pictures. In good shape. I bike, hike and see the gym two-three times a week for upper body work out. I used to be a runner Not anymore. I play softball in the Texas summer. I am educated. I am smart (not the same as being educated). Not a couch potato. Not much luck. I want what I just wrote as well as being liberal and atheist.
Whose fault? Mine. I own it. There is something that is unattractive about me. I have always been shy and not too talkative, but I have worked on those over the years.
As Linda Ronstadt said, "Poor, poor pitiful me."

Because humans are shallow creatures and to be given a second glimpse/consideration it is about looks first and who one is as a person second. Hence why photoshopping and editing one's pics or using filters and lots of makeup or taking professional photos are common.

If you get photos like that second one, send them to me. I'll use Picture Publisher to re-balance the tone on his face and then send it back, "warts and all".

Had to look again at my pictures last year, 3 years ago and 4.5 billion years ago.

Hahaa I had posted a short poem I wrote regarding The On Line Dating Blues. My understanding is that some women do this too. We are who we are and if you misinform or misguide someone the minute they meet you the gig is up. It makes no sense.

And this should be a big warning shot.

Second photo appears ok.... is that his recent one?

Failure to show himself in not a good sign low self esteem is my guess however, he could be the best thing since sliced bread-only one way to tell...meet him and see if he click's. Give us the scoop later.