of course there were

How about… When serial killings and mass murders were uncommon enough that they were headlines, instead of buried on page 4.

unfortunately they have always been with us

OK ok. Ofcourse there were. We were naïve to think there weren't. Ot too ignorant to think there weren't. Or too young to think there weren't. Or were told there weren't. Geezzzz.

@jorj keep net neutrality, advance lgbt rights fix the problems Obamacare. If it wasn’t for Obamacare I wouldn’t have gotten insurance been able to get the knee surgery I Desperately needed and would probably be disability and hooked of pain killers.

Yes, THOSE days! Except many of us remember them a bit differently than you just described, jorj. It was sure nice to have a real grown-up in the white house, with no real scandals, just the red herrings that Republicans fabricated. When the first couple were a clear inspiring example of a healthy marriage and the president obviously respected women. When respect and inclusion of LGBT people was growing tremendously, and the government was actually supportive. When tens of millions of people of color could look to the White House and see a sign that, just maybe, they too could be respected as equals in society with white people. When hostile threats from Russia to the foundation of our democracy were just hypothetical and were taken somewhat seriously by the government. When there was a better than equal chance when the president opened mouth that he wasn't spewing bald-faced lies as our current Prez Cheeto does. When neo-fascists were still marginalized and shamed instead up being propped up by the administration. THOSE days!

@MikeInBatonRouge, thank you, Mike. Well stated.

@jorj No one said anything about gay marriages. Obama work many other things to fight for the LGBT community

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And Obama was far from perfect I give you that but he was much better the any other president in previous decades. And I’m not happy with the DNC either. I supported Bernie. And only voted for Hillary to keep trump out.

@jorj I agree with that

Jorj, to your point re. scotus being responsible for lgbt rights advances and that therefore the potus opinions don't matter, actually, the potus' first function is to help direct public awareness and opinion on any issues deemed important and to then lead the campaign to get Congress to do something legislatively. POTUS is "Cheerleader in Chief."

SCOTUS is independent, yes, but they certainly are still attuned to public and political tone, and many a written opinion of various justices over the years have acknowledged the court's reluctance to rule too far outside the stream of public sentiment. POTUS certainly still plays a prominent role in shaping the tone of public discourse, which in turn informs the justices as they deliberate on the issues brought before them. Obama has been a solid friend to LGBT people, regardless of who might doubt his motives, and it mattered tremendously. Same goes for immigrants, women, racial minorities. It was no fluke coincidence that after Trump's election, violence toward, and murder of lgbt people spiked sharply as neo-nazi and another fascist leaning hate groups crawled out of hiding, confident that they now have thug friends in high places.

It matters who POTUS is, so don't pretend it doesn't. I have never known ANY president I thought was perfect, including Obama, but he was more than a breath of fresh air compaired to toxic Trump. And Obama did a lot of good.

I remember those days too

@Keyboard-Mama At least you have a good excuse.

Especially one that was a family member.

My mother just went to the front door and yelled my name.

@Condor5 I think they used the bells because we ranged far and wide. the bells carried a long way without a lot of effort

True dat, sister.

You said a mouthful, brother.

yes i did