I've never thought of this before, but now I am picturing churches as rocks that people live under to hide from the world.

@snytiger6 I ‘see’ that clearly...it works! The Churches have always promoted that idea of the ‘rock that they stand on!’ I remember from back in my ‘church’ days! Ha ha

You, sir, are disqualified for bringing in logic.

Make that two.

Me too..,since we should have some of the best education in the world!

@Freedompath I think we do. Just most people compare apples to oranges in this area.

@zesty Then it is sure sad to know that so many people would deny Science. Science is the reason that we live as long as we are now doing!

@Freedompath Sure. A very large percentage of the population is uninformed.

@Freedompath I think the U.S. used to have the best education system. What happened? The 1960's and early 1970's where the general populace was well informed and started to protest government actions, as they saw them for what they were, actions to primarily benefit the rich, and wars which didn't preserve freedom so much as it made money for the military industrial complex. At that point they "dumbed down" America so most people would lack the knowledge to see what policies were actually doing and would accept tht those policies would in some way benefit them, rather than ask embarrassing questions of people in power.

The uneducated are also more easily manipulated. Kind of like How the Koch brothers underwrote the Tea party to get poor people to fight against their own interest.

I disagree with the idea of disparities beign explained by comparing "apples to oranges." Knowledge of science, math and literacy levels are comparable no matter what country or language. They Japanese have a much more complicated writing system, but are still much more literate than Americans. There you have apples and oranges, but the comparison has been done and the U.S. comes out short even though we have the less complicated system.

The problem is that our education system is design to create workers, not to put out highly educated persons. They want ot teach enough so we can do the work, but not compete with existing power structures.

@snytiger6 Well put...

Good catch! Hardly anybody can spell these days,

Why can't a veggie burger taste like.....a veggie burger? LOL

I will say this - I love Boca chicken patties, with soybean chicken. I don't eat normal chicken patties due to their "nature." And, I'm a meat eater, an omnivore.

I hear ya! The guilt is strong.....

My mother was raised JW, thought it would be embarrassing if her friends to find out. As an adult she and my father converted to become Mormons. I think some people simply don't like to have to figure things out for themselves and are just more comfortable letti0gn others tell them what is right or wrong an dhow to behave. This is especially true if they were raised to let others (religion) direct them.

@snytiger6 The problem with JW's is that they are supposed to shun non-members even family. Also, no holidays. My sister did not do this and for Thanksgiving my brother told her it was simply a family gathering. She later told me she saw right through his ruse but joined in anyway.

The old testament shows that the Jews used blood sacrifice at their temples. So ritualized killing was a part of the Judaeo-Christian roots.

...one must consider that they are ‘starved’ for attention with their say!

They may not believe it when they first say it, but they go through the motions of believing it so often, that they do come to believe it.

There is an old saying something along the lines that a con man gets caught when he starts believing his own con. If anyoen remembers the unparaphrased version pllease feel free to post it.

Because meat tastes good. Some of us just don't want to eat it. I will eat some poultry and what seafood I like, but I don't eat mammals. No judgment--just a personal choice.