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Judging by the more militant remarks on this forum, maybe the claim is legitimate. It is common to hear a call to end religion, but I’ve never heard of a call to end atheism.

If you haven't heard that, then you haven't been listening.
Atheists have been under attack by believers since the beginning of
religion. It's only getting worse as the believers seek to force their will
on everyone else, claiming how badly they're being "suppressed".
They aren't being suppressed, they're being told they can no longer run
roughshod over everyone who doesn't share their beliefs.
When they're told they can't discriminate, they scream "discrimination".

I'm "militant" because I'm tired of the constant intrusion and influence on my life by religion and it's adherents.

@KKGator Thank you for stating this so Succinctly! I to am sick of the religious bigots complaining of being persecuted for their beliefs. They are the ones trying to shove their myths into every segment of society. I’m also sick of comments like the one above who push the “they may have a legitimate point.” The religious believers in this Country do nothing but push their beliefs on everyone, then scream persecution when non believers push back on them!

There are 7 states which have laws on the books forbidding atheists from running for various offices. There are no states with laws forbidding anybody from running due to sex, race or because of which religion they adhere too - you just have to have one.

[thehumanist.com]

@KKGator I know that in some Muslim countries it is not safe to be an atheist. Also, historically some Christian Churches have been suppressive.

For me personally, I have never felt coerced or influenced by any religion. I simply ignore what they do, and their activities have no effect on me. I once lived across the street from a Catholic Church and school. I was continually shopping at their rummage room, and they invited me to their church. I explained politely why I can not be a Catholic, and they responded with acceptance and respect.

Great people, those Catholics.

@Observer-Effect There are various old laws that are not enforced and are unconstitutional. Blasphemy is illegal in Massachusetts, for example.

@WilliamFleming Your experience has not been my own. Nor has your experience been the same as many others.
I was raised catholic. I'm here to tell you, they're not so great.
A lot of them have covered for pedophile priests, too.
I've also personally witnessed their complete lack of acceptance for others who didn't share their beliefs.
I've seen catholic nuns literally beat children for asking logical questions.

@WilliamFleming Don't think for one second that those "old laws" wouldn't be used if it suited someone's agenda.
While on their face, they are clearly un-Constitutional, with the current state of the courts, don't count on the Constitution being upheld.

Hell we're just playing for a tie, while they are constantly lying, misdirecting, shoving untruths onto the culture and society. Constantly moving the goalposts run up the score.

William Fleming please wake up, please wake up

You've never read a Bible. One basic tenet of Christianity is that all must either convert, or perish when Jesus comes back (whenever that is). Logically that means no more atheists.

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Speak up now before this bullshit gets out of hand:

"First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me."

  • 1946 confession by the German Lutheran pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984)

Well said, my friend..

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Poor Christians, always being picked on.

Bloody peasants!!

@Paul4747 wealthy peasants in the US apparently. [weforum.org]

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Barrf is a fucking asshole!

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I am so fucking tired of this administration and the cast of slimy characters

MizJ Level 8 Feb 4, 2020
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Apparently Mr. Barr knows nothing of the 1st Amendment and it's purpose. He has it exactly backwards. Seems strange that someone with the title of "Attorney General" would be so wrong about one of the most basic facts about our country.

Or, perhaps he knows all too well and just wants to virtue signal to Trump and his (fan)base. It's not like he's not willing to lie when it serves a purpose.

Yes he knows all to well just like he knows he’s AG for the people of the USA and not just Trump’s personal AG

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He's a Kkkristian facsist..fuck Billy Barbell and nail his scumbag ass to a cross..

Billy Barbell ! Lol

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barr has to go

To prison!!!

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The old Republican trick of accusing liberals of exactly what they do themselves.
The religionists ARE "imposing their beliefs on others." We see it every day in every way possible.
This is so obvious it's trite.

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I'd like to debate that point with him. I think I'd win. It's a low BARR

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A pathetic fear monger he is, and during an election year. How strategic.

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Oh my, it just does not stop and it is freaking working. We must figure out a way to save the nation, Never thought I would say these words and mean it. The constitution has been over ruled and we are now without the ability to stop orange cakes.

EMC2 Level 8 Feb 4, 2020
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I have never had anyone knock on my door trying to push secularism on me, and I've never tried to do it to anyone. Total bullshit. He is a lousy Attorney General.

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I am a veteran who spent 11 years in combat arms specialties. Do you think the militant secularists can use a competent instructor?

JimG Level 8 Feb 4, 2020

@TheMiddleWay There isn't anything wrong with being militant.

@TheMiddleWay
I tend to agree. You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. The problem though, is that the religious are largely impervious to reason. For them, belief trumps facts. It's sort of a Catch-22.

@TheMiddleWay
Pointing out that there is no evidence to support a belief is not a bullshit argument. It's actually pretty powerful when you think about it.

@TheMiddleWay
I never said the religious belief was wrong. It was enough to point out that it was not supported by evidence. And I did insist that the Earth really is 4.5 billion years old, and that humans share common ancestry with apes, and that the first humans evolved only about 200,000 years ago. These are facts, and that is how they should be taught. To do otherwise would be a disservice to the students. IMHO

@TheMiddleWay
Let's be clear: Christianity is not one belief, but a set of beliefs. The question of the existence of a deity cannot be settle empirically. But the age of the Earth and the origin of species can. And have been. And there is no "middle way" through that. It is what it is, to borrow biblical phraseology.

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How freaking hypocritical, can’t stand these crooks, uphold religion at all costs, while we kill democracy! I hate all of his executive, I dream of ways of ways in which they die! I’ve never felt like this before, but I feel justified! They are really the scum in the bottom of bacterial goop!

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This is bull! When I am at work and just had a customer try to hand me an Awake magazine after she finally got off the phone at the register . I never would impose my beliefs on someone else, especially if not welcomed in the first place. That is wat you call privilege religious zealots.

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The corporate christians have been trying to provoke violence for decades. They will keep doing this until they get the result they're looking for.

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All directed from our secret secular headquarters.

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What is very scary is the fact that the rhetoric driving the violence is increasing daily...this POS in the WH is going to start a civil war if its the last thing he does...he doesn't seem to care who he destroys to get his way...jmho

That’s right. Sick psychopath and narcissist. Worst combo

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What a strange thing to warn about. Christians in USA have been trying to get ride of other beliefs for years. Pot calling kettle black. With flat earthers and climate change deniers coming from the religious types then it seems like a fair response. X

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So the Attorney General has an issue with the push back by the Sane People against the bullshit and lies peddled by the God Mob? Somebody give him a jelly baby - it might help him to feel better.

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No-one ever feels more oppressed than an oppressor who is being challenged for being oppressive.

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I'm not militant about driving out religion... but am militant about the teaching of critical thinking skills. Let people make up their own minds instead of blindly accepting what they have bene told.

The problem with the Attorney General is that critical thinking skills are anathema to him, just like all the other cognitive skills.

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Drive out religion? Ronald Reagan should never have invited it in. His move was surprising when you consider that Nancy did everything by Astrology.

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Americans should hope their attorney general would know something about the Constitution. But it's an administration full of grifters. And Barr is one of the worst of the worst. One of their main tricks is to say about others, that which is true of themselves. Saying they're not trying to establish a religion, it's the non-religious who are trying to interfere with their right to be religious.

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Barr makes a mistake that is all too typical of religious folk: that people who do not subscribe to their way if thinking are automatically amoral. The notion that morality springs from belief in a "higher power" is simply preposterous. Moral compass is a product of our evolutionary history as social beings. It is part of the reason for our success as a species, and is completely independent of belief in gods, devils, angels, ghosts, and other such inventions of the human imagination.

Religions can (and have) incorporate immoral behavior in their moral codes (i.e. institutionalized mistreatment of women, acceptance of slavery, etc). The Divine Command Theory defines whatever God commands is moral even if the commandment is murder, rape, child abuse, etc. Someone who declines to follow through on what God commands from them would be considered to be immoral.

@RussRAB
I think that twisting of morality is what led Christopher Hitchens to write, "Religion poisons everything!"

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