@atheist i disagree, they may not be necessary in your eyes, but 2 others they are. it isn't really something you can decide for someone else.

@atheist sorry, I didn't have time 2 explain my position earlier. although I do think that science is the most reliable choice, I won't dismiss that for a lot of people, not all, but a lot, the other 2 carry some weight as well. there have been cases where a person has chosen an option that, while it may not, according strictly 2 science, be the best option, it was the best for them... one example is when a person runs in2 a burning building 2 save someone. it was not in their best interest 2 go in, but due 2 possibly philosophy or perhaps their religious beliefs, they went in anyway. they weighed the options, thought about the different outcomes, and decided that although it wasn't in their best interest, if they did not, that would be something they would have 2 deal with mentally and emotionally for the rest of their life. I'm not saying it is this way for all of us, but many people I know or have read about, have chosen 2 use things like philosophy or religious beliefs over what science says is best. so while I do still think science is the best choice, I don't think it automatically makes the other 2 moot

@atheist i can see your point, I just think that for some people the philosophy and religion still play a part even if its not the main part. and it all depends on the individual, one person may walk away from that burning building just fine and sleep soundly with no regrets where as another person, if they walked away, they may be so eaten up over it that they kill themselves or something. I guess I don't really think it would be unreasonable 2 infer that philosophy and religion are unnecessary, I just don't think it would be unreasonable 2 see it differently either. its pretty much how I look at a lot of things, like religion, I personally don't get in2 it, I don't worship anyone, but I can understand some peoples need for it. its not how I feel, but I can see how they ended up feeling that way

@atheist also idk if the doggo on your pic is yours or not, but super cute pupper!

@atheist What an official answer, you on the job?

@atheist Then I choose to remain silent

@atheist Well that's just one situation. I would want a doctor. What if you had a possibility of just saving 1 out of 3 people in a certain situation in 10 seconds? How is science going to help you then? Unless you're McGyver.

@atheist You can say science is the solution to everything if you look at it like that. What about killing some to save others? There can definitely be a mix of all 3 for that.

@atheist Isn't rationalization required for finding the valid choice? Can you prove that the other two choices aren't valid in the situation I proposed?

@atheist That doesn't mean they aren't valid for the practical purposes of that situation though. People make decisions regardless of religion being based on fiction, or philosophy being based on fact or not. Philosophy is also based on rationalization and logic. Philosophy isn't woo woo. I would even say that philosophy is the basis of science. Besides, like I said, people make decisions based off of both...even life and death decisions. There are many examples of this throughout history.

@atheist Lol whatever

By the way, while recovering in hospital from a deadly incident, (I smacked a car into a train) I managed to get outside into the hospital garden. It was wonderful to see the plants, the sunshine, the sky, and experience the breeze. However, I did not feel that God had saved me - merely joy at still being around to appreciate nature. If anyone had asked me if I had thanked God, I would have asked "For what? For screwing me up, for putting me in pain, for making it that only will power and bloody-mindedness ensured that I would walk again and for putting that bloody unlit train on the road at night?"

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@atheist Yes...these words may have been written by someone hundreds of years after Moses died....if he ever lived at all. But those words are very inspirational nonetheless.