I have noticed on this site (app) there are more older people, that which i find interesting because "experience comes with age & time". This means older people have debunked reality and that endless cycle that over 75 percent of the world is in - RELIGION.
Honestly, i really wish we could educate our younger ones on thinking out the box of religion, also how to question religion to their own personal realization of the truth.
Maybe then the world would be one and united by HUMANITY, and not seperated by RELIGION.
But i guess that might not happen because we would be up against lots of obstacles and shallow minded dumb folks.
Good evening, i hope you all had a great day.
Until the internet became a thing, there were a lot of us who had lived for most of our lives in rural and sparsely populated areas without ever knowing any other atheists. Being able to experience community with other free thinkers is a real treat in my senior years.
when I was in my early 20's I lived in Tucson area--Great group of American Atheists there -- their political and social gatherings were fun and educational--all ages and backgrounds
@Stuy I live in a town of about 18,000 people surrounded by corn and bean fields. What little culture we get comes from a small university about 10 miles from where I live, where my father once taught in the life science department. You can.t swing a dead cat around here without hitting a bank or a church, but atheists are mostly closeted. Very conservative Christian area.
While it may be your observation that people on this site are older, I donโt think it is fair or correct to assume that it reflects that young people are religious. I think this site is just used by older people. Go to Twitter or Instagram and youโll find many non religious young folks. This just isnโt a platform younger people use.
BTW, Iโm 46 but have been atheist since I was 16.
46, you havenโt even hit your prime yet!
I don't think membership on this site should be used as an indication of generational atheism because there are too many variables involved, not the least being the availability. I raised my daughters as freethinkers and they've always thought outside the box, as have their friends. Sometimes we educated one of their friends who was visiting, which was cool and perhaps expanded some minds.
I think the younger generations have something we sadly lacked at their age: access to others who think like us (via the Internet). I've told all of my girls about this site, and welcomed them to join, but they have no interest in it, mostly because they don't find their atheism to be fundamental to their key common interests (which are mostly art and music). When they meet someone new, they just assume them to be free of religion.
I agree. Perhaps the young & unindoctrinated don't need to vent, because their numbers are greater, and their community is less critical of them for being atheist. They also don't have a library of old hurts, never addressed, in their memories.
A lot of younger people are turning away from religion. I have 2 nieces aged 26 and 23 and they canโt be bothered with it, and all their friends that I have met feel the same way. After all it took me 9 years to declare myself an atheist after I stopped attending Sunday Mass Brainwashing.
As with Bigwavedave, I too became an atheist at 13 when I found out that such things existed. I did suffer doubts that there was an all powerful loving one god prior to that. 'I've seen things man'... Mostly on the news, but also overhearing one of my grandfathers talking about wiping an Italian town off the map with a heavy bombardment a day after the German army had 'buggered off back across the Po'. How could a Christian loving and all powerful god allow his beloved children do that to one another.
I've encountered argument about how faith is belief and that is all you need, but I work with evidence, so why dose god or the gods, there are many to choose from with at least 42 (~ oh the irony for Hitch hikers guide fans) of the one and only true ones.
Back when I was 23, I had a girlfriend who wanted me to attend her evangelical church to open my heart to Christ as none can enter heaven who have not done that - thus, until this Jesus fellow started converting people then heaven was empty. Well, in the end it only cemented my disbelief of any gods.
In the beginning there was nothing, and then it exploded - Terry Pratchet
@lady_bugI have been an atheist since I was 13. No internet then and no ability to even talk about it. What about your peers? Are they atheist or agnostic?
Mine peers are mostly atheists plus we share the same ideology.
That's nice, since 13 wow!
It's also kind of relative to how you grew up. For instance, I was never a believer. To me I never had the hardships that some who were raised religious, coming to grips that what they believed in was BS. That is fairly hard on a good number of people.
With that. I've also through my years have noticed that it is usually the newly de-converted, for lack of a better word, are also some of the most vocal about their non-belief, and write or post, or what ever all about it. Which I am not knocking. It's just for some of us, those whole conversations about religion, or God, etc. Are not really an every day kinds of things. It's honestly not that big of a topic, much like the whole "what lable do you use"? I just don't think about that
Not saying I don't get into those conversations, I do from time to time, but usually in response. Most of the time, those conversations or ideals I've had for my whole life. A discussion about god, is right up there with a discussion about Bigfoot, or Santa, And I've thought that way since I was young, so it's not always older folk.
In some respects I do think education is the key though.
Nice answer, have you studied sociology? If not, go and do it, I think you'd love it.
@Sofabeast Actually I have. Kind of hard to avoid. I live in Clearwater Fl. which is one of their headquarters. Those clowns are all over the place with their clipboards. All hail Xenu. lol
@TristanNuvo Sociology, not scientology. It's a social science
Welcome. BTW, I have not debunked "reality." People act as though religion is the reality but in the world today those that sell apps and devices are trying to create our reality. I do not let them do that for me. As for older, I am 74 and soon to be 75 in June. In the significant other realm I have went older twice and younger twice. My current ex is younger and also black, having come here from Kenya. Anyone can have a shallow mind, young or old. Life is what you make it.
i guess an emerging thought is that our leaders will do everything possible to keep us divided, even to "providing" $600 or $1200 checks on credit, and will do pretty much anything to keep us from coming together, "social isolation" being basically sheer genius i guess
None for you is fine with me!
It seems the proportion of nonreligious population is growing with each new generation. There must be some other explanation for the older average age on this site.
PEW research says "generational replacement appears to be playing a role. Religiously unaffiliated Americans are younger, on average, than the general public to begin with, and the youngest adults in the group โ that is, those who have entered adulthood in the last several years โ are even less religious than 'nones' overall."
[pewresearch.org]
The age distribution of this sample looks pretty normal. (But I'm sharing it because the survey is interesting in its own right.)
[secularsurvey.org]
A great day was had, thank you. Definitely agree about education, but this is not an instant fix. The UK has had free (?) education for 150 years or so, yet still has basic literacy and numeracy problems.
I think it was Aristotle who said that an unreflective life was not worth living. Just because some of us may have been around for a while and may have experienced a lot, that doesnโt mean we have thought more deeply, questioned more widely, or gained more insight because of it, sadly.
I wish we could acknowledge our common humanity, realizing that we ARE united by all the many things we share. Yet we keep using our differences as excuses for division and chauvinism, rather than seeing opportunities to learn from each other. We often try to do the same things, only in different ways.