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I'll Pray for you. Building bridges between Theist and Atheist.
Whathappensnow comments on Feb 16, 2018:
I don't build bridges, I explode them.
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 16, 2018:
LOL
Whathappensnow comments on Feb 16, 2018:
I don't build bridges, I explode them.
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 16, 2018:
LOL
I'll Pray for you. Building bridges between Theist and Atheist.
Prenna comments on Feb 16, 2018:
There's generally two types of "I'll pray for you". One is the mean spirited "I'll pray that you see the error of your ways and stop being a godless heathen". Which is just being a dick.
The other is a person appealing to what they imagine is the most powerful force in their universe to help you ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 16, 2018:
Thank you for saying it better than I could of or intended.....
Prenna comments on Feb 16, 2018:
There's generally two types of "I'll pray for you". One is the mean spirited "I'll pray that you see the error of your ways and stop being a godless heathen". Which is just being a dick.
The other is a person appealing to what they imagine is the most powerful force in their universe to help you ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 16, 2018:
Thank you for saying it better than I could of or intended.....
I'll Pray for you. Building bridges between Theist and Atheist.
David1955 comments on Feb 16, 2018:
Reading this it seems to me that if the intent of such a comment is condescending, patronising or to have a 'dig' at us, then hard atheist applies. If the person means well and that's their way of trying to be nice or supportive, then you let it go or take it in that spirit. It's a case by case ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 16, 2018:
It is odd when we left Children's Hospital the first time his mother mentioned to a latino Man we were Glad to be out of there after three days. The fellow smiled and said he understood his child had been there six months. I then noticed the quite large cross hung around his neck. It just was odd to me. My son and I are atheist and my son was getting out easy. This more than likely very religious man, according to anthropological studies would become more and more religious the more his child suffered. It just struck me as wrong and ironic. I really felt for him and his delusion. If his child did recover and it hope it does happen he will likely attribute it to God. I made a point of thanking and giving due credit to everyone I came into contact with, including the maintenance man. It was just an odd moment.
David1955 comments on Feb 16, 2018:
Reading this it seems to me that if the intent of such a comment is condescending, patronising or to have a 'dig' at us, then hard atheist applies. If the person means well and that's their way of trying to be nice or supportive, then you let it go or take it in that spirit. It's a case by case ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 16, 2018:
It is odd when we left Children's Hospital the first time his mother mentioned to a latino Man we were Glad to be out of there after three days. The fellow smiled and said he understood his child had been there six months. I then noticed the quite large cross hung around his neck. It just was odd to me. My son and I are atheist and my son was getting out easy. This more than likely very religious man, according to anthropological studies would become more and more religious the more his child suffered. It just struck me as wrong and ironic. I really felt for him and his delusion. If his child did recover and it hope it does happen he will likely attribute it to God. I made a point of thanking and giving due credit to everyone I came into contact with, including the maintenance man. It was just an odd moment.
I'll Pray for you. Building bridges between Theist and Atheist.
Wolfbat comments on Feb 16, 2018:
Yes the guy was simply expressing his concern and he meant well , I think you said all the right things. I probably live on the other side of the world from you but O wish you and your family well.kind regards Gary
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 16, 2018:
Thank you
Wolfbat comments on Feb 16, 2018:
Yes the guy was simply expressing his concern and he meant well , I think you said all the right things. I probably live on the other side of the world from you but O wish you and your family well.kind regards Gary
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 16, 2018:
Thank you
I'll Pray for you. Building bridges between Theist and Atheist.
RobCampbell comments on Feb 16, 2018:
my point is there is a time to be a "Hard Atheist" and a time to be the diplomat.
I would agree with that statement. Good luck in talking rationality to your theist friend. As for the I'll pray for you ' business. That is only a mechanism for the person saying it to feel better about themselves...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 16, 2018:
@RobCampbell I agree it is my purpose to dispel the impulse that many christians have to think that atheist are evil. I was wrongly taught this as a fundamentalist as a child.
RobCampbell comments on Feb 16, 2018:
my point is there is a time to be a "Hard Atheist" and a time to be the diplomat.
I would agree with that statement. Good luck in talking rationality to your theist friend. As for the I'll pray for you ' business. That is only a mechanism for the person saying it to feel better about themselves...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 16, 2018:
@RobCampbell I agree it is my purpose to dispel the impulse that many christians have to think that atheist are evil. I was wrongly taught this as a fundamentalist as a child.
I'll Pray for you. Building bridges between Theist and Atheist.
RobCampbell comments on Feb 16, 2018:
my point is there is a time to be a "Hard Atheist" and a time to be the diplomat.
I would agree with that statement. Good luck in talking rationality to your theist friend. As for the I'll pray for you ' business. That is only a mechanism for the person saying it to feel better about themselves...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 16, 2018:
It is true, to a great extent, I agree. It can also be a last ditch resort for those who know they can do nothing at all. My son has some of the best specialist in the world the liquor store guy can't help at all. In this case, his motivation for saying it does not concern me at all. He has found an atheist that is not a hater, this makes it easier for all atheist he will meet in the future, that is he point and my concern here.
RobCampbell comments on Feb 16, 2018:
my point is there is a time to be a "Hard Atheist" and a time to be the diplomat.
I would agree with that statement. Good luck in talking rationality to your theist friend. As for the I'll pray for you ' business. That is only a mechanism for the person saying it to feel better about themselves...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 16, 2018:
It is true, to a great extent, I agree. It can also be a last ditch resort for those who know they can do nothing at all. My son has some of the best specialist in the world the liquor store guy can't help at all. In this case, his motivation for saying it does not concern me at all. He has found an atheist that is not a hater, this makes it easier for all atheist he will meet in the future, that is he point and my concern here.
A lot of angry and/or uneducated atheists around here...
Duke comments on Jan 29, 2018:
I'm actually incensed at the amount of time and energy we (as a group) expend on this website pointing out what we don't believe. You're not a Christian. Good for you. I don't care.
Why is an entire website being used primarily as a bashing place for religion? Who really gives a shit? I don't.
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 16, 2018:
I am inundated with religion daily. I am expected to be a Christian and put up with their mythology whenever I leave my home. It is important to have a place for people to express their frustration and vocalize why religion is bunk.
Duke comments on Jan 29, 2018:
I'm actually incensed at the amount of time and energy we (as a group) expend on this website pointing out what we don't believe. You're not a Christian. Good for you. I don't care.
Why is an entire website being used primarily as a bashing place for religion? Who really gives a shit? I don't.
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 16, 2018:
I am inundated with religion daily. I am expected to be a Christian and put up with their mythology whenever I leave my home. It is important to have a place for people to express their frustration and vocalize why religion is bunk.
Satan as the Hero
273kelvin comments on Feb 7, 2018:
I was quite shocked to find out that he does not appear in Judaism. So for thousands of years God did not have his arch rival. So was he invented like Moriarty for Holmes or the Joker for Batman?
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 16, 2018:
The Jews at about the time that Jesus is said to have existed as I understood it,when Elaine Pagels explained it to me in an email exchange, wanted to explain why everything was going wrong. So they began to believe that it was a spiritual battle in the heavens. It is a great way to explain the unexplainable, something that religion has always done. Once the jewish sects became christianities hey had much more influence from other mystery religions and hellenism, I idea of good guys and bad guys having a spiritual battle brough about he idea of he satan character.
273kelvin comments on Feb 7, 2018:
I was quite shocked to find out that he does not appear in Judaism. So for thousands of years God did not have his arch rival. So was he invented like Moriarty for Holmes or the Joker for Batman?
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 16, 2018:
The Jews at about the time that Jesus is said to have existed as I understood it,when Elaine Pagels explained it to me in an email exchange, wanted to explain why everything was going wrong. So they began to believe that it was a spiritual battle in the heavens. It is a great way to explain the unexplainable, something that religion has always done. Once the jewish sects became christianities hey had much more influence from other mystery religions and hellenism, I idea of good guys and bad guys having a spiritual battle brough about he idea of he satan character.
I was asked today what I had given up for Lent by someone assuming I'm Catholic. Smh. My answer?
DavidLaDeau comments on Feb 15, 2018:
gotta know the response. I imagine it was a baffled deer in the headlights look.
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 15, 2018:
@Livinlife I am known for being blunt. I do have a guilty pleasure in shock value. Now that I'm getting older I do ty to weigh the value of it, sometimes it can be the best approach, sometimes I need to be subtle. your response would have been my first and most likely response. I was giddy to see you post.
DavidLaDeau comments on Feb 15, 2018:
gotta know the response. I imagine it was a baffled deer in the headlights look.
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 15, 2018:
@Livinlife I am known for being blunt. I do have a guilty pleasure in shock value. Now that I'm getting older I do ty to weigh the value of it, sometimes it can be the best approach, sometimes I need to be subtle. your response would have been my first and most likely response. I was giddy to see you post.
What was hardest?
VictoriaNotes comments on Feb 15, 2018:
There were several negative side-effects (still are), such as some that you mentioned in your last paragraph. But the hardest part, I think, was coming to terms with the fact that I had been bamboozled, so much so that I believed most of the nonsense. It took me years (and a lot of research about ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 15, 2018:
Thank you well said. I am embarrassed by what I believed. I am angry at what I was taught. Not at any of those that taught me they were just as brainwashed.
VictoriaNotes comments on Feb 15, 2018:
There were several negative side-effects (still are), such as some that you mentioned in your last paragraph. But the hardest part, I think, was coming to terms with the fact that I had been bamboozled, so much so that I believed most of the nonsense. It took me years (and a lot of research about ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 15, 2018:
Thank you well said. I am embarrassed by what I believed. I am angry at what I was taught. Not at any of those that taught me they were just as brainwashed.
There are some people who don't believe in doctors.
mordant comments on Feb 15, 2018:
Some pentecostal / charismatic / holiness traditions lean in the direction you describe, as do Science of Mind adherents ("Christian Science" ). In fairness, many evangelicals would totally agree with the last sentence of your post, and even the whackier fundamentalists usually stop short of things ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 15, 2018:
God can heal anything, he just hates amputees.http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/
mordant comments on Feb 15, 2018:
Some pentecostal / charismatic / holiness traditions lean in the direction you describe, as do Science of Mind adherents ("Christian Science" ). In fairness, many evangelicals would totally agree with the last sentence of your post, and even the whackier fundamentalists usually stop short of things ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 15, 2018:
God can heal anything, he just hates amputees.http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/
I've never been into prostilatizing my lack of religion, but I do try to stand up for what I believe...
cmadler comments on Feb 15, 2018:
I've thought for a long time that we need an atheist "coming out" movement. It's too easy for religious folks to demonize us when we're perceived as unknown, but once more people realize that we've been their friends, neighbors, and coworkers for years, I think a lot of views will change.
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 15, 2018:
I think agnostic.com may be an atheist coming out movement. That is why I am here.
cmadler comments on Feb 15, 2018:
I've thought for a long time that we need an atheist "coming out" movement. It's too easy for religious folks to demonize us when we're perceived as unknown, but once more people realize that we've been their friends, neighbors, and coworkers for years, I think a lot of views will change.
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 15, 2018:
I think agnostic.com may be an atheist coming out movement. That is why I am here.
Is this why the Bible, Torah and Quran ban Bacon?
BucketlistBob comments on Feb 15, 2018:
I'm saying they ban pigs and hogs because they didn't know about denutting them to remove the stink from the meat. I'm sure they would be eatting pig every day if they knew this secret...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 15, 2018:
My wife had me fixed....I only oink occasionally....Is she trying to get me fat for a reason?
BucketlistBob comments on Feb 15, 2018:
I'm saying they ban pigs and hogs because they didn't know about denutting them to remove the stink from the meat. I'm sure they would be eatting pig every day if they knew this secret...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 15, 2018:
My wife had me fixed....I only oink occasionally....Is she trying to get me fat for a reason?
Is this why the Bible, Torah and Quran ban Bacon?
Rugglesby comments on Feb 15, 2018:
Sorry guys, it is my warped way of thinking, the reference was to Francis Bacon, it is his quote I posted. and it is the comments re contradictions that finally freed me from my Christian upbringing, there are too many contradictions with the Bible and between it and the reality I experience. His ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 15, 2018:
are you calling me warped? It made since to me, probably because I came to the same conclusion in a different way.
Rugglesby comments on Feb 15, 2018:
Sorry guys, it is my warped way of thinking, the reference was to Francis Bacon, it is his quote I posted. and it is the comments re contradictions that finally freed me from my Christian upbringing, there are too many contradictions with the Bible and between it and the reality I experience. His ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 15, 2018:
are you calling me warped? It made since to me, probably because I came to the same conclusion in a different way.
I'm coming to the realization that there are many liberals here.
DavidLaDeau comments on Feb 14, 2018:
Been a libertarian for about 30 years. Was an actual card holder for a few..
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 15, 2018:
@GoldenMean A libertarian is a political party. Hopefully this link will help.https://www.lp.org/platform/
DavidLaDeau comments on Feb 14, 2018:
Been a libertarian for about 30 years. Was an actual card holder for a few..
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 15, 2018:
@GoldenMean A libertarian is a political party. Hopefully this link will help.https://www.lp.org/platform/
How much of a heretic are you?
birdingnut comments on Feb 12, 2018:
I accept gravity.
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
I do not accept gravity, it is just a theory.
birdingnut comments on Feb 12, 2018:
I accept gravity.
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
I do not accept gravity, it is just a theory.
How to respond to the "God is energy" belief/claim.
AMGT comments on Feb 14, 2018:
I ask them to be specific when they say energy.
Which type and how do they know.
How did they check and with which method?
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
@jayneonacobb I've been trying to brainwash my wife for 20 years to think I'm all that, I have had much success with convincing her I'm an idiot.
AMGT comments on Feb 14, 2018:
I ask them to be specific when they say energy.
Which type and how do they know.
How did they check and with which method?
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
@jayneonacobb I've been trying to brainwash my wife for 20 years to think I'm all that, I have had much success with convincing her I'm an idiot.
I'm coming to the realization that there are many liberals here.
DavidLaDeau comments on Feb 14, 2018:
Been a libertarian for about 30 years. Was an actual card holder for a few..
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
@David1955 Many think that libertarians are in the middle between reps and dems, I think of it more appropriately as a triangle with each faction in their own corner. Atheism as you well know is the absence of a belief in God. Though many wish to embed their religious beliefs into political ideas they are in fact separate entities. I don't see any way that libertarians could be associated with conservatives without a misunderstanding of what a libertarian actually is. It is much like calling an atheist a Satanist.
DavidLaDeau comments on Feb 14, 2018:
Been a libertarian for about 30 years. Was an actual card holder for a few..
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
@David1955 Many think that libertarians are in the middle between reps and dems, I think of it more appropriately as a triangle with each faction in their own corner. Atheism as you well know is the absence of a belief in God. Though many wish to embed their religious beliefs into political ideas they are in fact separate entities. I don't see any way that libertarians could be associated with conservatives without a misunderstanding of what a libertarian actually is. It is much like calling an atheist a Satanist.
I'm coming to the realization that there are many liberals here.
jlynn37 comments on Feb 14, 2018:
May I suggest Faux News for you.
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
You could never get phake news from Faux News!
jlynn37 comments on Feb 14, 2018:
May I suggest Faux News for you.
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
You could never get phake news from Faux News!
What's your dream job?
DavidLaDeau comments on Feb 14, 2018:
Biblical historian, scholar, with an emphasis on the literary aspects of early Christianities. Great atheist carrier!
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
@David1955 Yes the employment prospects would be.... I'd just have to write some books.
DavidLaDeau comments on Feb 14, 2018:
Biblical historian, scholar, with an emphasis on the literary aspects of early Christianities. Great atheist carrier!
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
@David1955 Yes the employment prospects would be.... I'd just have to write some books.
Is FAITH in anything absurd all the time? Do we need faith ever?
mordant comments on Feb 14, 2018:
One must define faith first. The dictionary definition is generally two-fold, and when you look closely, you see that they are near-polar opposites:
1) Trust based on experience, or what I call simply "trust".
2) Belief without a requirement of evidence, or what I call "religious faith".
...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
Well said!
mordant comments on Feb 14, 2018:
One must define faith first. The dictionary definition is generally two-fold, and when you look closely, you see that they are near-polar opposites:
1) Trust based on experience, or what I call simply "trust".
2) Belief without a requirement of evidence, or what I call "religious faith".
...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
Well said!
How to respond to the "God is energy" belief/claim.
AMGT comments on Feb 14, 2018:
I ask them to be specific when they say energy.
Which type and how do they know.
How did they check and with which method?
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
@jayneonacobb Yep if you have any advice on how I can convince my wife I'm hotter that the rock I would appreciate it.
AMGT comments on Feb 14, 2018:
I ask them to be specific when they say energy.
Which type and how do they know.
How did they check and with which method?
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
@jayneonacobb Yep if you have any advice on how I can convince my wife I'm hotter that the rock I would appreciate it.
I wish I were more brazen in real life.
DavidLaDeau comments on Feb 12, 2018:
That would be great instead of Christmas Pageants, There could be plays depicting Lots daughers raping him
Or maybe Japheth Sacrifices his virgin daughter
How bout Noah gets drunk and curses his grandchildren cus he likes to streak!
These would make great live action plays for everyone to enjoy!...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
@Lewellyn3 I am still dying to know how you have come by such depth of understanding. You not only have to have much historical back ground, but also literally in respect to that history in addition to cultural anthropology....
DavidLaDeau comments on Feb 12, 2018:
That would be great instead of Christmas Pageants, There could be plays depicting Lots daughers raping him
Or maybe Japheth Sacrifices his virgin daughter
How bout Noah gets drunk and curses his grandchildren cus he likes to streak!
These would make great live action plays for everyone to enjoy!...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
@Lewellyn3 I am still dying to know how you have come by such depth of understanding. You not only have to have much historical back ground, but also literally in respect to that history in addition to cultural anthropology....
Is FAITH in anything absurd all the time? Do we need faith ever?
Betty comments on Feb 14, 2018:
Trust, belief, confidence, conviction; optimism are some of the synonyms for the word "faith".
We can use any of them instead and it would have the same meaning. It is a personal choice and I think we sometimes use the word faith out of habit.
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
I have gotten to dislike the word all together. It is often used out of context by apologist, simply to confuse the listener. They will often switch syntax mid sentence just to be misleading.
Betty comments on Feb 14, 2018:
Trust, belief, confidence, conviction; optimism are some of the synonyms for the word "faith".
We can use any of them instead and it would have the same meaning. It is a personal choice and I think we sometimes use the word faith out of habit.
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
I have gotten to dislike the word all together. It is often used out of context by apologist, simply to confuse the listener. They will often switch syntax mid sentence just to be misleading.
Is FAITH in anything absurd all the time? Do we need faith ever?
markdevenish comments on Feb 14, 2018:
faith in your fellow human being
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
When you have used the word faith in your sentence you are expressing the sharing of a common ideal. Not trust or the unfounded belief in magic. There are many usages of the word, this is not the one the person whom made the post was speaking of.
markdevenish comments on Feb 14, 2018:
faith in your fellow human being
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
When you have used the word faith in your sentence you are expressing the sharing of a common ideal. Not trust or the unfounded belief in magic. There are many usages of the word, this is not the one the person whom made the post was speaking of.
How to respond to the "God is energy" belief/claim.
AMGT comments on Feb 14, 2018:
I ask them to be specific when they say energy.
Which type and how do they know.
How did they check and with which method?
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
@jayneonacobb I was actually not referring to a Nick name but the Actor, someone whom I am defiantly nowhere near as perfectly masculine as he. You did understand my point. My self delusions though I may wish them to be true does not make them real.
AMGT comments on Feb 14, 2018:
I ask them to be specific when they say energy.
Which type and how do they know.
How did they check and with which method?
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
@jayneonacobb I was actually not referring to a Nick name but the Actor, someone whom I am defiantly nowhere near as perfectly masculine as he. You did understand my point. My self delusions though I may wish them to be true does not make them real.
How to respond to the "God is energy" belief/claim.
AMGT comments on Feb 14, 2018:
I ask them to be specific when they say energy.
Which type and how do they know.
How did they check and with which method?
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
@jayneonacobb It may be true for me that I am "The Rock"(I just don't feel like doing pec pops right now). It does not mean that I actually am "The Rock" no matter how much I try to convince my wife otherwise. The argument is thus completely meaningless. In fact it is not even an argument.
AMGT comments on Feb 14, 2018:
I ask them to be specific when they say energy.
Which type and how do they know.
How did they check and with which method?
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
@jayneonacobb It may be true for me that I am "The Rock"(I just don't feel like doing pec pops right now). It does not mean that I actually am "The Rock" no matter how much I try to convince my wife otherwise. The argument is thus completely meaningless. In fact it is not even an argument.
What do you know that most others don’t?
PeppermintDreads comments on Feb 12, 2018:
How to speak Klingon.
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
@PeppermintDreads your awesome!
PeppermintDreads comments on Feb 12, 2018:
How to speak Klingon.
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
@PeppermintDreads your awesome!
I really wonder why voters (in the U.
Piece2YourPuzzle comments on Feb 12, 2018:
Some say it's because it would leave the door open for everyone who has an opposing ideology to vote for who they think is the weakest candidate so that their real candidate would have an easier chance at winning when they face the weak candidate.
I think it leaves out Independents who are ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
You are correct. It would be terrible for only the worst douche canoes to have the opportunity to become elected simply because opposing factions voted them in.
Piece2YourPuzzle comments on Feb 12, 2018:
Some say it's because it would leave the door open for everyone who has an opposing ideology to vote for who they think is the weakest candidate so that their real candidate would have an easier chance at winning when they face the weak candidate.
I think it leaves out Independents who are ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
You are correct. It would be terrible for only the worst douche canoes to have the opportunity to become elected simply because opposing factions voted them in.
I wish I were more brazen in real life.
DavidLaDeau comments on Feb 12, 2018:
That would be great instead of Christmas Pageants, There could be plays depicting Lots daughers raping him
Or maybe Japheth Sacrifices his virgin daughter
How bout Noah gets drunk and curses his grandchildren cus he likes to streak!
These would make great live action plays for everyone to enjoy!...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
@Lewellyn3 You could not be more perceptive.
DavidLaDeau comments on Feb 12, 2018:
That would be great instead of Christmas Pageants, There could be plays depicting Lots daughers raping him
Or maybe Japheth Sacrifices his virgin daughter
How bout Noah gets drunk and curses his grandchildren cus he likes to streak!
These would make great live action plays for everyone to enjoy!...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 14, 2018:
@Lewellyn3 You could not be more perceptive.
I wish I were more brazen in real life.
DavidLaDeau comments on Feb 12, 2018:
That would be great instead of Christmas Pageants, There could be plays depicting Lots daughers raping him
Or maybe Japheth Sacrifices his virgin daughter
How bout Noah gets drunk and curses his grandchildren cus he likes to streak!
These would make great live action plays for everyone to enjoy!...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 13, 2018:
@Lewellyn3 I am really impressed with your knowledge. It is rare. Yep it's probably made up anyway. I take the bible for what it actually says. If i got a girl so drunk she did not know htat was happening and had sex with her it would rightly be called rape. So that and that alone is my justification for calling it rape. But you are right we don't know that it happened at all so we just can't speculate on fiction.
Japeth is just a horrible story. I think of him as one of the bibles worst idiots. The story also makes god look very bad. For this reason I am glad and hope it is pure fiction.
DavidLaDeau comments on Feb 12, 2018:
That would be great instead of Christmas Pageants, There could be plays depicting Lots daughers raping him
Or maybe Japheth Sacrifices his virgin daughter
How bout Noah gets drunk and curses his grandchildren cus he likes to streak!
These would make great live action plays for everyone to enjoy!...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 13, 2018:
@Lewellyn3 I am really impressed with your knowledge. It is rare. Yep it's probably made up anyway. I take the bible for what it actually says. If i got a girl so drunk she did not know htat was happening and had sex with her it would rightly be called rape. So that and that alone is my justification for calling it rape. But you are right we don't know that it happened at all so we just can't speculate on fiction.
Japeth is just a horrible story. I think of him as one of the bibles worst idiots. The story also makes god look very bad. For this reason I am glad and hope it is pure fiction.
Why do you reject the idea of religion?
Teresa comments on Oct 16, 2017:
Religion is a mental illness.
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 12, 2018:
I don't know if you jest or if you are serious. It by definition is a delusion. In psychology it fits the definition of delusion but gets a nice exemption from diagnosis. Group think is the major cause of religious thinking. When many people share the same delusion then perfectly sane people can buy into it. A good example is Orson Wellls Radio program of War of the Worlds.
Teresa comments on Oct 16, 2017:
Religion is a mental illness.
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 12, 2018:
I don't know if you jest or if you are serious. It by definition is a delusion. In psychology it fits the definition of delusion but gets a nice exemption from diagnosis. Group think is the major cause of religious thinking. When many people share the same delusion then perfectly sane people can buy into it. A good example is Orson Wellls Radio program of War of the Worlds.
Does anyone here believe in post death existence OTHER than religious afterlife?
DavidLaDeau comments on Feb 12, 2018:
There is no evidence and much wishful thinking.
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 12, 2018:
@David1955 No i'm sure he your too good looking for him to ever want you to be his wingman.
DavidLaDeau comments on Feb 12, 2018:
There is no evidence and much wishful thinking.
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 12, 2018:
@David1955 No i'm sure he your too good looking for him to ever want you to be his wingman.
Priest Sexually Abused 10-Year-Old Boy, Said He’d “Ruin” Him If He Told Anyone – Friendly ...
NicoleCadmium comments on Feb 11, 2018:
Catholicism has set itself up for this.
If you're a gay Catholic, your only acceptable course in life is to never have sex, ever, ever, ever. In order to save embarrassment to your family, you're often coaxed into the priesthood.
Catholic doctrine over sin is strictly black and white. There are ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 11, 2018:
Recently I saw a doc on pope Benedict and why he left the papacy. It was all about sex. The interesting thing it highlighted was that one half of the clergy were gay. While there is nothing wrong with their sexuality, the church does make it harder on these men. It's unfortunate they are there voluntarily.
NicoleCadmium comments on Feb 11, 2018:
Catholicism has set itself up for this.
If you're a gay Catholic, your only acceptable course in life is to never have sex, ever, ever, ever. In order to save embarrassment to your family, you're often coaxed into the priesthood.
Catholic doctrine over sin is strictly black and white. There are ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 11, 2018:
Recently I saw a doc on pope Benedict and why he left the papacy. It was all about sex. The interesting thing it highlighted was that one half of the clergy were gay. While there is nothing wrong with their sexuality, the church does make it harder on these men. It's unfortunate they are there voluntarily.
Priest Sexually Abused 10-Year-Old Boy, Said He’d “Ruin” Him If He Told Anyone – Friendly ...
I_dont_know comments on Feb 11, 2018:
I've been told that the Catholic Church is not the only religion with pedophiles. The Protestant denominations also have some predatory clergy. The Catholic Church due to their rule of celibacy might have a larger problem than the other churches. Celibacy within Catholic clergy is THE problem. Is ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 11, 2018:
While I don't know after much study that pedophiles are attracted towards the priesthood, I can say any position of authority does attract them. Any profession that involves trust from children is vulnerable. Sexual oppression does in fact lead toward more sexual desires. The priesthood is very susceptible on both of these accounts. On a side note pornography sells the best in the bible belt so it is universally prolific, it's just that the priesthood is particularly in the spotlight and particularly prolific.
I_dont_know comments on Feb 11, 2018:
I've been told that the Catholic Church is not the only religion with pedophiles. The Protestant denominations also have some predatory clergy. The Catholic Church due to their rule of celibacy might have a larger problem than the other churches. Celibacy within Catholic clergy is THE problem. Is ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 11, 2018:
While I don't know after much study that pedophiles are attracted towards the priesthood, I can say any position of authority does attract them. Any profession that involves trust from children is vulnerable. Sexual oppression does in fact lead toward more sexual desires. The priesthood is very susceptible on both of these accounts. On a side note pornography sells the best in the bible belt so it is universally prolific, it's just that the priesthood is particularly in the spotlight and particularly prolific.
So I'm dating a catholic now.
NicoleCadmium comments on Feb 1, 2018:
Religion requires belief in a divine power. Unless you have a shrine to Richard Dawkins set up in your bedroom, he's wrong about atheism being your religion. Theism and atheism are both beliefs, but only theism is religion.
It's saddening that, in this day and age, religious differences still ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 1, 2018:
Liked your comment. BTW, I could set up a shrine to Dawkins? I'm on it!
NicoleCadmium comments on Feb 1, 2018:
Religion requires belief in a divine power. Unless you have a shrine to Richard Dawkins set up in your bedroom, he's wrong about atheism being your religion. Theism and atheism are both beliefs, but only theism is religion.
It's saddening that, in this day and age, religious differences still ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 1, 2018:
Liked your comment. BTW, I could set up a shrine to Dawkins? I'm on it!
Silly Superstitions
Donotbelieve comments on Feb 1, 2018:
I've been diagnosed, by a professional, as having o.c.d.
I had quite a few quirks and odd habits, as a child and young adult.
Such as, spinning, bumping my hands a certain amount of times per hand, flicking light switches, counting objects, and other superstitious like actions/thoughts.
I ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 1, 2018:
I will also deliberately do things to spite superstition.
Donotbelieve comments on Feb 1, 2018:
I've been diagnosed, by a professional, as having o.c.d.
I had quite a few quirks and odd habits, as a child and young adult.
Such as, spinning, bumping my hands a certain amount of times per hand, flicking light switches, counting objects, and other superstitious like actions/thoughts.
I ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 1, 2018:
I will also deliberately do things to spite superstition.
Has anyone used the pause feature?
DavidLaDeau comments on Feb 1, 2018:
Dying to know what you will be doing there.
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 1, 2018:
@SteveB Envy would be an appropriate word.....Watch out for Chupacabra, They are really thick in that part of the world.
DavidLaDeau comments on Feb 1, 2018:
Dying to know what you will be doing there.
DavidLaDeau replies on Feb 1, 2018:
@SteveB Envy would be an appropriate word.....Watch out for Chupacabra, They are really thick in that part of the world.
One week and I go to India.
RavenCT comments on Jan 29, 2018:
I grew up in a town that sprung up around a Roman Catholic Church being built. (It's cathedral sized). Craftspeople from all over came with their families and settled. So a real mix in my hometown. Love a good Gothic Church to this day. Spent many a Sunday staring up at the paintings on the ceiling....
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 31, 2018:
I have just committed the sin of envy!
RavenCT comments on Jan 29, 2018:
I grew up in a town that sprung up around a Roman Catholic Church being built. (It's cathedral sized). Craftspeople from all over came with their families and settled. So a real mix in my hometown. Love a good Gothic Church to this day. Spent many a Sunday staring up at the paintings on the ceiling....
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 31, 2018:
I have just committed the sin of envy!
What party do you typically vote for?
JosephHarrison comments on Nov 21, 2017:
I vote for the UK Conservative Party, which is, ironically, more liberal and socialist than your Democrat party.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 31, 2018:
Thank you for the clarification. Americans in general do not know that parties in Europe may have similar names but opposite ideas than ours.
JosephHarrison comments on Nov 21, 2017:
I vote for the UK Conservative Party, which is, ironically, more liberal and socialist than your Democrat party.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 31, 2018:
Thank you for the clarification. Americans in general do not know that parties in Europe may have similar names but opposite ideas than ours.
What party do you typically vote for?
Pfr1998 comments on Nov 21, 2017:
voting in the country should be complusory
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 31, 2018:
I very strongly disagree with you on this one. I used to hold the same opinion. The problem is that very few people pay any attention to the issues at all and are thus uninformed. If they have heard anything about an issue it is just quips from politicians in the media which are designed to influence voters not to educate them. An uninformed vote is very dangerous.
Pfr1998 comments on Nov 21, 2017:
voting in the country should be complusory
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 31, 2018:
I very strongly disagree with you on this one. I used to hold the same opinion. The problem is that very few people pay any attention to the issues at all and are thus uninformed. If they have heard anything about an issue it is just quips from politicians in the media which are designed to influence voters not to educate them. An uninformed vote is very dangerous.
How often are you asked what church you attend? Follow up: What state do you live in?
Sarahroo29 comments on Dec 13, 2017:
Colorado and no one asks me that.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 31, 2018:
Colorado Springs is the most metropolitan city in the state even above Denver due to its transient population, so that does not surprise me. I live in the Florence/Canon City area that is likely to be one of the most religious areas barring Pueblo and simply never get asked the question either. It may be that If religion does come up in the conversation, I fairly quickly mention that I am an atheist.
Sarahroo29 comments on Dec 13, 2017:
Colorado and no one asks me that.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 31, 2018:
Colorado Springs is the most metropolitan city in the state even above Denver due to its transient population, so that does not surprise me. I live in the Florence/Canon City area that is likely to be one of the most religious areas barring Pueblo and simply never get asked the question either. It may be that If religion does come up in the conversation, I fairly quickly mention that I am an atheist.
Are atheists in general, more intelligent than religious people?
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 30, 2018:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/atheists-more-intelligent-than-religious-people-faith-instinct-cleverness-a7742766.html
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 31, 2018:
@TheMiddleWay I just read in a book that one psychologist took a control group of about 20 normal people and gave them diagnosis of severe disorders. He put them in a mental hospital and told them to act normal. Every single note by the staff reflected observations conducive to the written diagnosis without exception.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 30, 2018:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/atheists-more-intelligent-than-religious-people-faith-instinct-cleverness-a7742766.html
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 31, 2018:
@TheMiddleWay I just read in a book that one psychologist took a control group of about 20 normal people and gave them diagnosis of severe disorders. He put them in a mental hospital and told them to act normal. Every single note by the staff reflected observations conducive to the written diagnosis without exception.
How many here have tried a generic dating site?
Crimson67 comments on Jan 31, 2018:
I always put it in and I always get a few men who email me to educate me on how wrong I am.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 31, 2018:
@CeciRosane60 lol
Crimson67 comments on Jan 31, 2018:
I always put it in and I always get a few men who email me to educate me on how wrong I am.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 31, 2018:
@CeciRosane60 lol
Scientist announces a laser so powerful it can tear empty space
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 26, 2018:
What struck me is the quote "You could generate something from nothing."
Intelligent desin people always say "You think somthing came from nothing" when making the cosmological arguement. to which I resopond " I did not say that, I don't know the origins of the universe, I just don't pretend to ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 30, 2018:
@evidentialist Thank you!!!!
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 26, 2018:
What struck me is the quote "You could generate something from nothing."
Intelligent desin people always say "You think somthing came from nothing" when making the cosmological arguement. to which I resopond " I did not say that, I don't know the origins of the universe, I just don't pretend to ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 30, 2018:
@evidentialist Thank you!!!!
Are atheists in general, more intelligent than religious people?
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 30, 2018:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/atheists-more-intelligent-than-religious-people-faith-instinct-cleverness-a7742766.html
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 30, 2018:
@TheMiddleWay Thank you for that!
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 30, 2018:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/atheists-more-intelligent-than-religious-people-faith-instinct-cleverness-a7742766.html
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 30, 2018:
@TheMiddleWay Thank you for that!
Am I the only person on this site who doesn't have a pet?
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 30, 2018:
My wife and I have up to 150 or more animals out side and 40 inside. Our house is only 1000 square feet. We are known appropriately as ladeauzoo.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 30, 2018:
@Irishathiest No, but my wife middle name is "animal hoarder"!!!!
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 30, 2018:
My wife and I have up to 150 or more animals out side and 40 inside. Our house is only 1000 square feet. We are known appropriately as ladeauzoo.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 30, 2018:
@Irishathiest No, but my wife middle name is "animal hoarder"!!!!
When someone in church "catches the holy-ghost" what do you guys think is actually happening?
Chatoyant comments on Jan 30, 2018:
They are submitting to a very strong desire to belong, to be a part of something, to prove their belief to others and hoping to convince themselves.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 30, 2018:
You are spot on. there have been many studies that have proven this.
Chatoyant comments on Jan 30, 2018:
They are submitting to a very strong desire to belong, to be a part of something, to prove their belief to others and hoping to convince themselves.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 30, 2018:
You are spot on. there have been many studies that have proven this.
Am I the only person on this site who doesn't have a pet?
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 30, 2018:
My wife and I have up to 150 or more animals out side and 40 inside. Our house is only 1000 square feet. We are known appropriately as ladeauzoo.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 30, 2018:
@BlueWave My wife is an occupational therapist. Long story short we do free petting zoos for nursing homes, schools, fundraisers such as orchard of hope,etc, We have farm animals of all sorts, alpacas, llamas, horses, miniature horses, burros, goats sheep pigs, chickens geese, ducks, rabbits outside. In side are sob story dogs 6, cats 6, a miniature pig, chinchilla,and conure parrot. Many are rescues, most are service animals of some sort or another.
The best story I have is I met a woman whom told me she worked for hospice and a lady brought a kid goat in. The patient said that was the best day there, she was literally there to die. After a few questions I realized that was my goat and my wife!
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 30, 2018:
My wife and I have up to 150 or more animals out side and 40 inside. Our house is only 1000 square feet. We are known appropriately as ladeauzoo.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 30, 2018:
@BlueWave My wife is an occupational therapist. Long story short we do free petting zoos for nursing homes, schools, fundraisers such as orchard of hope,etc, We have farm animals of all sorts, alpacas, llamas, horses, miniature horses, burros, goats sheep pigs, chickens geese, ducks, rabbits outside. In side are sob story dogs 6, cats 6, a miniature pig, chinchilla,and conure parrot. Many are rescues, most are service animals of some sort or another.
The best story I have is I met a woman whom told me she worked for hospice and a lady brought a kid goat in. The patient said that was the best day there, she was literally there to die. After a few questions I realized that was my goat and my wife!
I once had a young lady condemn me on Facebook for saying that all religions are one of the biggest ...
Gabriel comments on Jan 29, 2018:
"According to the Encyclopedia of War, out of all known/recorded historical conflicts, only about 7% had religion as their primary cause, and of that percentage, 4% were related to Islam."~ wikipedia. so she's more right than she is wrong. Also the crusades AND the inquisition were a reaction to the...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 30, 2018:
@Gabriel The ENTIRE middle east was not Christian, but a good part of it was before Islam was invented by Muhammad. Anyone can justify anything they wish. There were worshipers of Mithros there before the Christians that could have used the same excuse had they survived.
Gabriel comments on Jan 29, 2018:
"According to the Encyclopedia of War, out of all known/recorded historical conflicts, only about 7% had religion as their primary cause, and of that percentage, 4% were related to Islam."~ wikipedia. so she's more right than she is wrong. Also the crusades AND the inquisition were a reaction to the...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 30, 2018:
@Gabriel The ENTIRE middle east was not Christian, but a good part of it was before Islam was invented by Muhammad. Anyone can justify anything they wish. There were worshipers of Mithros there before the Christians that could have used the same excuse had they survived.
Just found this on Reddit and I think I'm going to have a stroke from pure rage.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 29, 2018:
Gosh that was really smart and thought provoking, so now lets talk about free will......and while we are at it the marginalization of rape.....
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 30, 2018:
@Blindbird This may be true in most cases. For me, I wish I had had someone to teach me rational thought, I had to learn it on my own. Now that the internet is available I have to learn from kids, on youtube!!!!! I don't mind as long as I learn. My point is there are at least some that will listen and be affected even if they don't admit it. This is why i am so vocal.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 29, 2018:
Gosh that was really smart and thought provoking, so now lets talk about free will......and while we are at it the marginalization of rape.....
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 30, 2018:
@Blindbird This may be true in most cases. For me, I wish I had had someone to teach me rational thought, I had to learn it on my own. Now that the internet is available I have to learn from kids, on youtube!!!!! I don't mind as long as I learn. My point is there are at least some that will listen and be affected even if they don't admit it. This is why i am so vocal.
How I became a Fundamentalist extremist in my childhood, its affects, and how I got out.
Ktcyan comments on Jan 30, 2018:
Get this. I'm on my break at a public school where I work and your link has been blocked. Wow! Small town MN here where the population is about 3000 and there are about 8 churches and 2 bars if you include the golf course on the edge of town. I've been told that I can't plan activities on ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 30, 2018:
I don't understand, was it specifically blocked by the school district, If so I am flattered. Tonight I'M planning on sending the link to the senior pastor of that church, It will be interesting to see if they bother to respond....I very much doubt it. I will howerer send a nice introduction and invite them to have a conversation with me.
Ktcyan comments on Jan 30, 2018:
Get this. I'm on my break at a public school where I work and your link has been blocked. Wow! Small town MN here where the population is about 3000 and there are about 8 churches and 2 bars if you include the golf course on the edge of town. I've been told that I can't plan activities on ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 30, 2018:
I don't understand, was it specifically blocked by the school district, If so I am flattered. Tonight I'M planning on sending the link to the senior pastor of that church, It will be interesting to see if they bother to respond....I very much doubt it. I will howerer send a nice introduction and invite them to have a conversation with me.
I was told by a Christian that atheist stay stressed cause they always doing research on everything.
VictoriaNotes comments on Jan 29, 2018:
Cognitive dissonance is stressful. She's only fooling herself. I've been a blogger for 8 years and have been involved in religious discourse for much longer. In almost every discussion, there has been at least one ex-believer who shared how relieved they were to no longer be a Christian. The fear ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 29, 2018:
@VictoriaNotes This is why I am both an adament atheist and very empathitic to those whom are victims of religion such as parents who rely on "faith healing." The parents are completly wrong, but they are themselves victims, and by definiion are not "of sound mind." So I often play wackos advocate even though I do not agree with the stupid thing religious people do. I was one of those wackos. I just managed to get out before I hurt anyone with "love."
VictoriaNotes comments on Jan 29, 2018:
Cognitive dissonance is stressful. She's only fooling herself. I've been a blogger for 8 years and have been involved in religious discourse for much longer. In almost every discussion, there has been at least one ex-believer who shared how relieved they were to no longer be a Christian. The fear ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 29, 2018:
@VictoriaNotes This is why I am both an adament atheist and very empathitic to those whom are victims of religion such as parents who rely on "faith healing." The parents are completly wrong, but they are themselves victims, and by definiion are not "of sound mind." So I often play wackos advocate even though I do not agree with the stupid thing religious people do. I was one of those wackos. I just managed to get out before I hurt anyone with "love."
What are these tags?
Charlene comments on Jan 27, 2018:
They're not "grades"..they're ways people can add points and offer alternative ways of finding your post..like I just tagged this post with #pornwatchers..which I took From your post..it's a good thing..also you get tagged when someone responds to your post or comments directly..again all good..I ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 29, 2018:
Now that was funny!!!!
Charlene comments on Jan 27, 2018:
They're not "grades"..they're ways people can add points and offer alternative ways of finding your post..like I just tagged this post with #pornwatchers..which I took From your post..it's a good thing..also you get tagged when someone responds to your post or comments directly..again all good..I ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 29, 2018:
Now that was funny!!!!
I once had a young lady condemn me on Facebook for saying that all religions are one of the biggest ...
Antitheistdv1620 comments on Jan 29, 2018:
You must also deny that America works with slave owning gulf states and cyber enemies to make capitolism work.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 29, 2018:
America does colluede with foreign powers that are involved in antihumanist activities for the sake of power and financial gain. Hopefully we are more concerned about humanism that religion in foreign affirs in the future.
Antitheistdv1620 comments on Jan 29, 2018:
You must also deny that America works with slave owning gulf states and cyber enemies to make capitolism work.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 29, 2018:
America does colluede with foreign powers that are involved in antihumanist activities for the sake of power and financial gain. Hopefully we are more concerned about humanism that religion in foreign affirs in the future.
I once had a young lady condemn me on Facebook for saying that all religions are one of the biggest ...
Gabriel comments on Jan 29, 2018:
"According to the Encyclopedia of War, out of all known/recorded historical conflicts, only about 7% had religion as their primary cause, and of that percentage, 4% were related to Islam."~ wikipedia. so she's more right than she is wrong. Also the crusades AND the inquisition were a reaction to the...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 29, 2018:
The cruades were in fact a religious war, the initial or first crusade was in response to islamic pressure. The following crusades were actually more driven by money and power for the Catholic church. The Inquisition was was started as a direct attack on the Knights Templer that the Catholic church was indebt to. The theory was simple, accuse the Knights Templers of being herotics and the debt would become nullified and they could confiscated their assets. Thats exactly what they did.
There would have been no witch hunting at the time if it was not for the influence of Christianity. It only stopped during the time of the Salam Witch triles once the governers wife was accused of being a witch. It was stooped then by the government NOT the church.
Gabriel comments on Jan 29, 2018:
"According to the Encyclopedia of War, out of all known/recorded historical conflicts, only about 7% had religion as their primary cause, and of that percentage, 4% were related to Islam."~ wikipedia. so she's more right than she is wrong. Also the crusades AND the inquisition were a reaction to the...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 29, 2018:
The cruades were in fact a religious war, the initial or first crusade was in response to islamic pressure. The following crusades were actually more driven by money and power for the Catholic church. The Inquisition was was started as a direct attack on the Knights Templer that the Catholic church was indebt to. The theory was simple, accuse the Knights Templers of being herotics and the debt would become nullified and they could confiscated their assets. Thats exactly what they did.
There would have been no witch hunting at the time if it was not for the influence of Christianity. It only stopped during the time of the Salam Witch triles once the governers wife was accused of being a witch. It was stooped then by the government NOT the church.
I was told by a Christian that atheist stay stressed cause they always doing research on everything.
VictoriaNotes comments on Jan 29, 2018:
Cognitive dissonance is stressful. She's only fooling herself. I've been a blogger for 8 years and have been involved in religious discourse for much longer. In almost every discussion, there has been at least one ex-believer who shared how relieved they were to no longer be a Christian. The fear ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 29, 2018:
It put me in a mental hospital at age 14. I've never been at more peace than when I realized and could admit that God does not exist. I recently wrote about my brainwashing.
https://agnostic.com/discussion/18691/how-i-became-a-fundamentalist-extremist-in-my-childhood-its-affects-and-how-i-got-out-atheist-n
VictoriaNotes comments on Jan 29, 2018:
Cognitive dissonance is stressful. She's only fooling herself. I've been a blogger for 8 years and have been involved in religious discourse for much longer. In almost every discussion, there has been at least one ex-believer who shared how relieved they were to no longer be a Christian. The fear ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 29, 2018:
It put me in a mental hospital at age 14. I've never been at more peace than when I realized and could admit that God does not exist. I recently wrote about my brainwashing.
https://agnostic.com/discussion/18691/how-i-became-a-fundamentalist-extremist-in-my-childhood-its-affects-and-how-i-got-out-atheist-n
I was told by a Christian that atheist stay stressed cause they always doing research on everything.
David1955 comments on Jan 29, 2018:
Ah yes, ignorance is bliss. The old religionist argument: don't ask too many questions, don't question too much, just believe. Just like in the Dark Ages. Dark Ages thinking, you just can't beat it. :-)
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 29, 2018:
At first I thought you were being snarky. I was going to have to report you to the "Thought Police."
David1955 comments on Jan 29, 2018:
Ah yes, ignorance is bliss. The old religionist argument: don't ask too many questions, don't question too much, just believe. Just like in the Dark Ages. Dark Ages thinking, you just can't beat it. :-)
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 29, 2018:
At first I thought you were being snarky. I was going to have to report you to the "Thought Police."
Agnostos Theos - the original agnostics? Acts 17:23
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 28, 2018:
This passage is meant to ridicule a particular unnamed sect. I am not confident that It is addressing the gnostics, though some scholars belive it could be. The passage is simply to ambiguous.
There is much to be said for the fact that the gnostics may have been the original Christians. The gnostic...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 29, 2018:
@atheist Vey nice, a thinker, i am impressed.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 28, 2018:
This passage is meant to ridicule a particular unnamed sect. I am not confident that It is addressing the gnostics, though some scholars belive it could be. The passage is simply to ambiguous.
There is much to be said for the fact that the gnostics may have been the original Christians. The gnostic...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 29, 2018:
@atheist Vey nice, a thinker, i am impressed.
Does anyone know about the kalam? And how it pertains to catholocism?
MrLink comments on Jan 28, 2018:
Its a philosophical argument whereby one might have to conclude that there must be a supremely powerful creator god. It allows for some people to reconcile our scientific knowledge of the universe, including the concept of the big bang, with theism and a belief in god. I think. But I don't buy it.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 28, 2018:
@irascible I personally love the argument, but I may have a sick facination with shooting fish in a barrel.
MrLink comments on Jan 28, 2018:
Its a philosophical argument whereby one might have to conclude that there must be a supremely powerful creator god. It allows for some people to reconcile our scientific knowledge of the universe, including the concept of the big bang, with theism and a belief in god. I think. But I don't buy it.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 28, 2018:
@irascible I personally love the argument, but I may have a sick facination with shooting fish in a barrel.
Do you think you understand the bible better than most christians?
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 28, 2018:
I am often told online that atheist are not qualified to interpret the Bible. I would argue the opposite is true. Chrstians read much dogma into the Bible that is not there without knowing it. Lets start at the beginning.
God and Jesus decide to make man and do so. Eve is convienced by Satan to ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 28, 2018:
@MichaelSpinler But it is all true because the Bible says so. Its Gods word so its true. It says so in the bible. So its Gods word. (read to the tune of The Circle of Life) "It's the Circle of Bull" la la la la
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 28, 2018:
I am often told online that atheist are not qualified to interpret the Bible. I would argue the opposite is true. Chrstians read much dogma into the Bible that is not there without knowing it. Lets start at the beginning.
God and Jesus decide to make man and do so. Eve is convienced by Satan to ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 28, 2018:
@MichaelSpinler But it is all true because the Bible says so. Its Gods word so its true. It says so in the bible. So its Gods word. (read to the tune of The Circle of Life) "It's the Circle of Bull" la la la la
Chart of Philosophy & Religion
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 27, 2018:
I really don't care for the chart. It is extrmemly difficult to put religion in a box.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 28, 2018:
@MrLizard We are both, as my 19 y/o daughter would say "stupid". LOL
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 27, 2018:
I really don't care for the chart. It is extrmemly difficult to put religion in a box.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 28, 2018:
@MrLizard We are both, as my 19 y/o daughter would say "stupid". LOL
What are the commentariats' views on legal prostitution?
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 25, 2018:
Let's face it people are going to have sex. The Romans used to sell special tokens specifically for prostitution. Modern historians did the math and found out that the going rates were almost identical to today!
Sexy sells and has for a very long time.
What I am concerned about is first that we...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 28, 2018:
@GipsyOfNewSpain I do agree. Even If prostitution is totally legal, and even it there is as much safeguards as possible, there will be abuses. That is why debates such as ours are so important. No matter how much something sucks, we as human beings must endeavor to ask the hard questions so that we can come to a reasonable compromise to the unanswerable. (bows out.)
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 25, 2018:
Let's face it people are going to have sex. The Romans used to sell special tokens specifically for prostitution. Modern historians did the math and found out that the going rates were almost identical to today!
Sexy sells and has for a very long time.
What I am concerned about is first that we...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 28, 2018:
@GipsyOfNewSpain I do agree. Even If prostitution is totally legal, and even it there is as much safeguards as possible, there will be abuses. That is why debates such as ours are so important. No matter how much something sucks, we as human beings must endeavor to ask the hard questions so that we can come to a reasonable compromise to the unanswerable. (bows out.)
How I became a Fundamentalist extremist in my childhood, its affects, and how I got out.
David1955 comments on Jan 28, 2018:
Great piece. Now, if you feel a relapse coming on, you'd better go to AA (Atheists Anonymous) :-) I guess that's here. Seriously though, I found your explanation about why you changed interesting, bible studies and other things mixed in, but not one big transforming event. That's probably typical. ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 28, 2018:
Thank you My favorite Quote is from Christopher Hitchens "Athiesm is not choosen , It's discovered."
David1955 comments on Jan 28, 2018:
Great piece. Now, if you feel a relapse coming on, you'd better go to AA (Atheists Anonymous) :-) I guess that's here. Seriously though, I found your explanation about why you changed interesting, bible studies and other things mixed in, but not one big transforming event. That's probably typical. ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 28, 2018:
Thank you My favorite Quote is from Christopher Hitchens "Athiesm is not choosen , It's discovered."
What are the commentariats' views on legal prostitution?
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 25, 2018:
Let's face it people are going to have sex. The Romans used to sell special tokens specifically for prostitution. Modern historians did the math and found out that the going rates were almost identical to today!
Sexy sells and has for a very long time.
What I am concerned about is first that we...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 28, 2018:
@GipsyOfNewSpain Actually I have never payed for sex. Perhaps I had too much of an ego. I did live in Nevada and saw personally how some woman were victimized even If they were former prostitutes. It was horrible to go to work and hear fellows talk about that "whore" that worked with us. She was just trying to support her familly. I always wondered how they "knew" she had been in the business. So please don't attack me for having empathy for another human being.
I an very anti-dehumanization. I just don't see what there is to criticize about that. I actually think you are right on in everything I have seen you comment on, I am surprised by your reaction. Lets just agree its good to treat humans like humans and be done with it.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 25, 2018:
Let's face it people are going to have sex. The Romans used to sell special tokens specifically for prostitution. Modern historians did the math and found out that the going rates were almost identical to today!
Sexy sells and has for a very long time.
What I am concerned about is first that we...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 28, 2018:
@GipsyOfNewSpain Actually I have never payed for sex. Perhaps I had too much of an ego. I did live in Nevada and saw personally how some woman were victimized even If they were former prostitutes. It was horrible to go to work and hear fellows talk about that "whore" that worked with us. She was just trying to support her familly. I always wondered how they "knew" she had been in the business. So please don't attack me for having empathy for another human being.
I an very anti-dehumanization. I just don't see what there is to criticize about that. I actually think you are right on in everything I have seen you comment on, I am surprised by your reaction. Lets just agree its good to treat humans like humans and be done with it.
Feeling more connected with the people on this site than I do with people I have known most of my ...
PinkPassion comments on Jan 28, 2018:
So have I. I’m glad I stumbled across this site.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 28, 2018:
@Shelton I rarely go onto facebook groups, The only reason I do is to get a feel for what is on peoples minds. To me its kind of a drive by culture. Take a pop shot at something and just keep moving....
PinkPassion comments on Jan 28, 2018:
So have I. I’m glad I stumbled across this site.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 28, 2018:
@Shelton I rarely go onto facebook groups, The only reason I do is to get a feel for what is on peoples minds. To me its kind of a drive by culture. Take a pop shot at something and just keep moving....
What are the commentariats' views on legal prostitution?
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 25, 2018:
Let's face it people are going to have sex. The Romans used to sell special tokens specifically for prostitution. Modern historians did the math and found out that the going rates were almost identical to today!
Sexy sells and has for a very long time.
What I am concerned about is first that we...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 28, 2018:
@GipsyOfNewSpain A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man".
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 25, 2018:
Let's face it people are going to have sex. The Romans used to sell special tokens specifically for prostitution. Modern historians did the math and found out that the going rates were almost identical to today!
Sexy sells and has for a very long time.
What I am concerned about is first that we...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 28, 2018:
@GipsyOfNewSpain A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man".
Is being an atheist important?
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 28, 2018:
I was a wacko Fundamentalist. It was devistating to my pschological well being as a child. Mostly due to the extreme guilt I felt. Yes it is very important to me to let peolpe know its OK to not believe in God and perfectly normal. I hope to help anyone whom wishes escape the clutches of religion ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 28, 2018:
@David1955 I just wrote about how and why if your interested.
https://agnostic.com/discussion/18691/how-i-became-a-fundamentalist-extremist-in-my-childhood-its-affects-and-how-i-got-out-atheist-n
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 28, 2018:
I was a wacko Fundamentalist. It was devistating to my pschological well being as a child. Mostly due to the extreme guilt I felt. Yes it is very important to me to let peolpe know its OK to not believe in God and perfectly normal. I hope to help anyone whom wishes escape the clutches of religion ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 28, 2018:
@David1955 I just wrote about how and why if your interested.
https://agnostic.com/discussion/18691/how-i-became-a-fundamentalist-extremist-in-my-childhood-its-affects-and-how-i-got-out-atheist-n
Jesus is a Friend of Mine - YouTube
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 27, 2018:
What did you do to him? What did I do to you? I do now have a great way to punish my son who loves Five Finger Death Punch!
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 27, 2018:
@SteveB https://youtu.be/iRKnwTbvlFo
https://youtu.be/wQneMslUsiM
This is what I listened to when I was a Christian. At least these guys were pretty good.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 27, 2018:
What did you do to him? What did I do to you? I do now have a great way to punish my son who loves Five Finger Death Punch!
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 27, 2018:
@SteveB https://youtu.be/iRKnwTbvlFo
https://youtu.be/wQneMslUsiM
This is what I listened to when I was a Christian. At least these guys were pretty good.
Chart of Philosophy & Religion
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 27, 2018:
I really don't care for the chart. It is extrmemly difficult to put religion in a box.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 27, 2018:
@MrLizard It definately wouldn't float. (a witch joke)
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 27, 2018:
I really don't care for the chart. It is extrmemly difficult to put religion in a box.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 27, 2018:
@MrLizard It definately wouldn't float. (a witch joke)
Debunking 5 'Patriotic' Myths Republicans Actually Believe are True | Forward Progressives
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 27, 2018:
Why wasn't God and Country are synonyms on the list?
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 27, 2018:
@MrLizard We might be good friends!
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 27, 2018:
Why wasn't God and Country are synonyms on the list?
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 27, 2018:
@MrLizard We might be good friends!
I am wondering, when you meet someone for the first time and they start talking about being saved up...
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 27, 2018:
I generally question their level of indoctrination, and how they think. Do they simply conform or do they actually lack critical thinking skills. It has been proven that theist are inferior intellectualy in general, but this has nothing to do with each individual. So my first thought is not stupid ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 27, 2018:
@Donotbelieve I may be particularly empathitic as I was Brainwashed as I explained in my post today.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 27, 2018:
I generally question their level of indoctrination, and how they think. Do they simply conform or do they actually lack critical thinking skills. It has been proven that theist are inferior intellectualy in general, but this has nothing to do with each individual. So my first thought is not stupid ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 27, 2018:
@Donotbelieve I may be particularly empathitic as I was Brainwashed as I explained in my post today.
Inside Flat Earth International Conference, where everyone believes Earth isn't round
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 25, 2018:
I can't believe its gone this far. I can wrap my mind around (I said around) theism but I am completely perplexed about the Flat earth. I can tango with theist all day. I just wouldn't know where to start with these people. I really hope this dies down soon. Perhaps if I can just get Bigfoot to ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 27, 2018:
@TheMiddleWay What kills me is someone can build a model rocket and take pictures, or fly in a plane. There are many very simple things one can do to prove the earth is not flat. These people cherry pick the evidence like Chrisitans cherry pick the Bible. I actually think of them as one in the same.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 25, 2018:
I can't believe its gone this far. I can wrap my mind around (I said around) theism but I am completely perplexed about the Flat earth. I can tango with theist all day. I just wouldn't know where to start with these people. I really hope this dies down soon. Perhaps if I can just get Bigfoot to ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 27, 2018:
@TheMiddleWay What kills me is someone can build a model rocket and take pictures, or fly in a plane. There are many very simple things one can do to prove the earth is not flat. These people cherry pick the evidence like Chrisitans cherry pick the Bible. I actually think of them as one in the same.
Debunking 5 'Patriotic' Myths Republicans Actually Believe are True | Forward Progressives
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 27, 2018:
Why wasn't God and Country are synonyms on the list?
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 27, 2018:
@MrLizard It was more of a rhetorical comment than a question.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 27, 2018:
Why wasn't God and Country are synonyms on the list?
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 27, 2018:
@MrLizard It was more of a rhetorical comment than a question.
How I became a Fundamentalist extremist in my childhood, its affects, and how I got out.
ravnostic comments on Jan 27, 2018:
Thanks for sharing that, these things help me understand a new perspective and I like hearing other people's stories.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 27, 2018:
I do too. Everyone has a past and It molds how they see things. These prospectives can be very beneficial to everyone, particularly in problem solving.
ravnostic comments on Jan 27, 2018:
Thanks for sharing that, these things help me understand a new perspective and I like hearing other people's stories.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 27, 2018:
I do too. Everyone has a past and It molds how they see things. These prospectives can be very beneficial to everyone, particularly in problem solving.
How I became a Fundamentalist extremist in my childhood, its affects, and how I got out.
Varn comments on Jan 27, 2018:
Thank you…. 13 years ahead of you, I’d suffered none of that.. But in my early twenties watched the wave arrive ..and with a motley crew of fellow (no women) Atheists, faced the storm. Letters to editors, support for women’s clinics, the gay community, local cable ‘atheist news ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 27, 2018:
Thank you so much, that is one of the nicest and most encouraging resposes I have ever recieved.
Varn comments on Jan 27, 2018:
Thank you…. 13 years ahead of you, I’d suffered none of that.. But in my early twenties watched the wave arrive ..and with a motley crew of fellow (no women) Atheists, faced the storm. Letters to editors, support for women’s clinics, the gay community, local cable ‘atheist news ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 27, 2018:
Thank you so much, that is one of the nicest and most encouraging resposes I have ever recieved.
"The things you own end up owning you" - From Fight Club
A rail against capitalism and for always...
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 27, 2018:
The same principal is not limited to materalism. Theism happens to be an excellent example of and idea owning a person as they become a emotive and cognative slave to it. Do they really own the idea of theism? Do they control it or is it like a drug that controls them?
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 27, 2018:
@JeffMurray It is particullarly sad when It comes to children.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 27, 2018:
The same principal is not limited to materalism. Theism happens to be an excellent example of and idea owning a person as they become a emotive and cognative slave to it. Do they really own the idea of theism? Do they control it or is it like a drug that controls them?
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 27, 2018:
@JeffMurray It is particullarly sad when It comes to children.
To those who were raised in a religious household, what made you abandon your family's beliefs?
DaneScott comments on Jan 27, 2018:
I suppose watching my Mom get beat by my father and me relentlessly praying it would stop. Everyone prayed even our priest would come over to the house Saturday nights to comfort my Mom and Sunday he was putting the cracker on my fathers tongue. I thought either there was a god but was less powerful...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 27, 2018:
I hope it did stop. That is a horrible thing to live through.
DaneScott comments on Jan 27, 2018:
I suppose watching my Mom get beat by my father and me relentlessly praying it would stop. Everyone prayed even our priest would come over to the house Saturday nights to comfort my Mom and Sunday he was putting the cracker on my fathers tongue. I thought either there was a god but was less powerful...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 27, 2018:
I hope it did stop. That is a horrible thing to live through.
What are your favorite websites?
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 27, 2018:
http://atheistnexus.org/
This is one of my favorite hang outs. If you have any question at all concerning atheism or theism there are expert members that can give you any "correct" answer to any question you might have.
The site is for Athiets only so theres no trolls or arguing that happens. If...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 27, 2018:
@josh_karpf Unfortinately you are correct I am compelledunbeliever on the site. I have limited my post as not to monopolize the site. It has really died in the last year. I do not know why. I thought it might pick up with Trump being in office, but has rather gone in ther other direction. There is one group Quotations now thats dominating, all the site seems to be quips. That can be found anywhere. The deep discussions seem to have disappeared. With this being said, there are still absolute experts in every field still there. When I have a question that is not easily accessable on the internet, they show me where to access that information. It is a great, old , dying, group.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 27, 2018:
http://atheistnexus.org/
This is one of my favorite hang outs. If you have any question at all concerning atheism or theism there are expert members that can give you any "correct" answer to any question you might have.
The site is for Athiets only so theres no trolls or arguing that happens. If...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 27, 2018:
@josh_karpf Unfortinately you are correct I am compelledunbeliever on the site. I have limited my post as not to monopolize the site. It has really died in the last year. I do not know why. I thought it might pick up with Trump being in office, but has rather gone in ther other direction. There is one group Quotations now thats dominating, all the site seems to be quips. That can be found anywhere. The deep discussions seem to have disappeared. With this being said, there are still absolute experts in every field still there. When I have a question that is not easily accessable on the internet, they show me where to access that information. It is a great, old , dying, group.
Television- The great bullshitter
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 26, 2018:
Got rid of cable last year. The only thing I watched was the History channels "Christian" history stuff. They really did't know anything about Christian history....Why were they always wrong?
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 27, 2018:
@Sadoi Honestly, I think it was simple. They wanted to appeal to a Chriatian audence so it simply had to be a sanitized version of history that would get them ratings.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 26, 2018:
Got rid of cable last year. The only thing I watched was the History channels "Christian" history stuff. They really did't know anything about Christian history....Why were they always wrong?
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 27, 2018:
@Sadoi Honestly, I think it was simple. They wanted to appeal to a Chriatian audence so it simply had to be a sanitized version of history that would get them ratings.
Satanic Temple Wins Abortion Victory In Missouri
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 26, 2018:
For those who don't know the Satanic Temple is basically an atheist organization, that challenges institution of religion in government. They use the name Satanic Temple to get media attention and wil go to great measures to make a point.
Here is their mission statement.
...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 26, 2018:
@HippieChick58 I think I have a crush on your brain!
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 26, 2018:
For those who don't know the Satanic Temple is basically an atheist organization, that challenges institution of religion in government. They use the name Satanic Temple to get media attention and wil go to great measures to make a point.
Here is their mission statement.
...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 26, 2018:
@HippieChick58 I think I have a crush on your brain!
Scientist announces a laser so powerful it can tear empty space
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 26, 2018:
What struck me is the quote "You could generate something from nothing."
Intelligent desin people always say "You think somthing came from nothing" when making the cosmological arguement. to which I resopond " I did not say that, I don't know the origins of the universe, I just don't pretend to ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 26, 2018:
@evidentialist Thank You, I'm a history geek, but I try to keep up with science and other things.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 26, 2018:
What struck me is the quote "You could generate something from nothing."
Intelligent desin people always say "You think somthing came from nothing" when making the cosmological arguement. to which I resopond " I did not say that, I don't know the origins of the universe, I just don't pretend to ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 26, 2018:
@evidentialist Thank You, I'm a history geek, but I try to keep up with science and other things.
Scientist announces a laser so powerful it can tear empty space
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 26, 2018:
What struck me is the quote "You could generate something from nothing."
Intelligent desin people always say "You think somthing came from nothing" when making the cosmological arguement. to which I resopond " I did not say that, I don't know the origins of the universe, I just don't pretend to ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 26, 2018:
@evidentialist Thank you for the correction, It was my understanding it actually became matter for somthing like a trillionth of a second. You you have any links to share for someone with a rudamentry understanding?
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 26, 2018:
What struck me is the quote "You could generate something from nothing."
Intelligent desin people always say "You think somthing came from nothing" when making the cosmological arguement. to which I resopond " I did not say that, I don't know the origins of the universe, I just don't pretend to ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 26, 2018:
@evidentialist Thank you for the correction, It was my understanding it actually became matter for somthing like a trillionth of a second. You you have any links to share for someone with a rudamentry understanding?
Was sex more fun when you still believed in original sin?
VictoriaNotes comments on Jan 26, 2018:
LMAO
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 26, 2018:
@JackPedigo don't sweat it I have only been online about a year. I constantly have to look stuff up. BTW WTF does that mean IDK, LMAO.
My daughter has made a special one for me. Ys YOUR STUPID!
VictoriaNotes comments on Jan 26, 2018:
LMAO
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 26, 2018:
@JackPedigo don't sweat it I have only been online about a year. I constantly have to look stuff up. BTW WTF does that mean IDK, LMAO.
My daughter has made a special one for me. Ys YOUR STUPID!
Wha is the difference between instinct and intuition? How would wou describe it?
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 26, 2018:
Instinct is something we inherit, an animal instinct.
Intuition come form experience and subconcious logic.
Intuition can also sometimes associated to a feeling that comes from "spiritual magic." This understanding of the word often is the source of mythicism.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 26, 2018:
@Leutrelle Thank You, every once in a while when the space aliens take over my body I say something smart.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 26, 2018:
Instinct is something we inherit, an animal instinct.
Intuition come form experience and subconcious logic.
Intuition can also sometimes associated to a feeling that comes from "spiritual magic." This understanding of the word often is the source of mythicism.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 26, 2018:
@Leutrelle Thank You, every once in a while when the space aliens take over my body I say something smart.
Death Cult Christianity
ripcurldane comments on Jan 26, 2018:
What a great link. Should be compulsory reading for all Christians, especially this bit
" the very first Christian Doomsdayer, Jesus Christ himself, got his own prediction of the end of the world stupendously wrong when he boldly announced: “I TELL YOU THE TRUTH, some who are standing here will ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 26, 2018:
Don't feel let down when a someone is a "no show" for a date. Jesus is almost 2000 years late!
ripcurldane comments on Jan 26, 2018:
What a great link. Should be compulsory reading for all Christians, especially this bit
" the very first Christian Doomsdayer, Jesus Christ himself, got his own prediction of the end of the world stupendously wrong when he boldly announced: “I TELL YOU THE TRUTH, some who are standing here will ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 26, 2018:
Don't feel let down when a someone is a "no show" for a date. Jesus is almost 2000 years late!
What is the significance of a date?
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 26, 2018:
O.K. bud just throw out our dirty laundry for everyone to see. Complete with skid marks in our underware!!!! Yes, it is perfectly true and the actual story. . We are not taught about it in schools and you basically have to be a crazy history nerd like myself to be familar with it. There are more ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 26, 2018:
@Rugglesby It is interesting ....first hand accounts. I read an account from Daniel Bone he was fighting Indians. They burnt down a cabin that many indians had held up in. They evidently were very, very hungry. After the fire they found that there were potatoes under the floors kept there for storage. They had been cooked according to MR. Boone by the greese of the indians bodies dripping through the floor. They did eat them. Not a story you will ever see on the history channel. He did seem to have remorse in his account.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 26, 2018:
O.K. bud just throw out our dirty laundry for everyone to see. Complete with skid marks in our underware!!!! Yes, it is perfectly true and the actual story. . We are not taught about it in schools and you basically have to be a crazy history nerd like myself to be familar with it. There are more ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 26, 2018:
@Rugglesby It is interesting ....first hand accounts. I read an account from Daniel Bone he was fighting Indians. They burnt down a cabin that many indians had held up in. They evidently were very, very hungry. After the fire they found that there were potatoes under the floors kept there for storage. They had been cooked according to MR. Boone by the greese of the indians bodies dripping through the floor. They did eat them. Not a story you will ever see on the history channel. He did seem to have remorse in his account.
What are the commentariats' views on legal prostitution?
LennyP49 comments on Jan 25, 2018:
Tough question for me. I believe that women should have control over their own bodys, BUT, I believe that it still is a degrading thing for a woman to have to subject herself to. There is no proof that the rate of sexual assault is lower where prostitution is legal, and even if condoms are used, I ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 25, 2018:
Decriminalizing prostitution is much safer.
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/decriminalizing-prostitution-linked-to-fewer-stds-and-rapes
http://reason.com/blog/2014/07/15/fight-rape-with-legal-prostitution
LennyP49 comments on Jan 25, 2018:
Tough question for me. I believe that women should have control over their own bodys, BUT, I believe that it still is a degrading thing for a woman to have to subject herself to. There is no proof that the rate of sexual assault is lower where prostitution is legal, and even if condoms are used, I ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 25, 2018:
Decriminalizing prostitution is much safer.
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/decriminalizing-prostitution-linked-to-fewer-stds-and-rapes
http://reason.com/blog/2014/07/15/fight-rape-with-legal-prostitution
What are the commentariats' views on legal prostitution?
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 25, 2018:
Let's face it people are going to have sex. The Romans used to sell special tokens specifically for prostitution. Modern historians did the math and found out that the going rates were almost identical to today!
Sexy sells and has for a very long time.
What I am concerned about is first that we...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 25, 2018:
@David1955 My biggest concern is public safety. I've always hated hearing about them "whores". People dehumanize human beings. It seems the jerks that speak the worst about them are the most likely to appreciate their services. It concerns me about the safety of "Those Whores" in their presence at all.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 25, 2018:
Let's face it people are going to have sex. The Romans used to sell special tokens specifically for prostitution. Modern historians did the math and found out that the going rates were almost identical to today!
Sexy sells and has for a very long time.
What I am concerned about is first that we...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 25, 2018:
@David1955 My biggest concern is public safety. I've always hated hearing about them "whores". People dehumanize human beings. It seems the jerks that speak the worst about them are the most likely to appreciate their services. It concerns me about the safety of "Those Whores" in their presence at all.
I have done my share of internet dating, and boy have I got stories.
I_dont_know comments on Jan 25, 2018:
I've not met many women through internet dating. I, once, met someone who lives in a town nearby. She drove a fairly recent Cadillac. We had good conversation, so she asked if I wanted to go with her to a nearby city for her to get a few things at the big box discount store. She had $100.00 bills in...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 25, 2018:
@Akfishlady I love that I can imagine the tag line "Read a book, Get a hook!"
I_dont_know comments on Jan 25, 2018:
I've not met many women through internet dating. I, once, met someone who lives in a town nearby. She drove a fairly recent Cadillac. We had good conversation, so she asked if I wanted to go with her to a nearby city for her to get a few things at the big box discount store. She had $100.00 bills in...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 25, 2018:
@Akfishlady I love that I can imagine the tag line "Read a book, Get a hook!"
How old are you really?
I remember 19 out of 20 Oh My!
ScienceBiker comments on Jan 24, 2018:
I remember channels 2,4,5,7,9,11,13 and a few UHF channels. There are lots of things I remember. But I'm still 30 something in my head :-P
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 24, 2018:
@evidentialist Wow I'm a techno brat. Ours was black and white, a fine Curtis Mathis! It was a piece of furniture about six feet long!
ScienceBiker comments on Jan 24, 2018:
I remember channels 2,4,5,7,9,11,13 and a few UHF channels. There are lots of things I remember. But I'm still 30 something in my head :-P
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 24, 2018:
@evidentialist Wow I'm a techno brat. Ours was black and white, a fine Curtis Mathis! It was a piece of furniture about six feet long!
How old are you really?
I remember 19 out of 20 Oh My!
Stevil comments on Jan 24, 2018:
I'm older than dirt. My grand brat asked "hey gramps, what was it like to have a pet dinosaur as a kid?" When. She was home for christmas.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 24, 2018:
If you don't remember your older than she thought!
Stevil comments on Jan 24, 2018:
I'm older than dirt. My grand brat asked "hey gramps, what was it like to have a pet dinosaur as a kid?" When. She was home for christmas.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 24, 2018:
If you don't remember your older than she thought!
What is your favorite Athiest video?
[youtube.com] Here is mine.
chicagojcb comments on Jan 24, 2018:
I didn't know Atheist movies were a thing! This was pretty awesome, especially the original Cosmos music in the background. I think Carl Sagan would approve. :)
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 24, 2018:
What a talented kid!!!!!
chicagojcb comments on Jan 24, 2018:
I didn't know Atheist movies were a thing! This was pretty awesome, especially the original Cosmos music in the background. I think Carl Sagan would approve. :)
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 24, 2018:
What a talented kid!!!!!
Anyone of us on here going to the Superbowl?
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 24, 2018:
I havent watched football in two years. First they had the "gay fetish", then they wanted to lecture me about not beating my wife, Then they threw in a bit of racism at the super bowl. I had enough.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 24, 2018:
@BlueWave to open a bag of worms.....
There was a gay football player that was being harrassed by his team mates. It was stupid of the players and the media could not let go of it and the NFL handled it very badly.
There were a few football players that beat their wives so the NFL in its wisdom decided to do public service announcement during the games to tell people not to beat their wives. I did not have a problem with this, They did.
Byonce at the super bowl did a great half time show. The problem was it was all about glorifying the Black Panthers. That was simply racist.I would have been just as offended if someone glorified the KKK.
I wanted to watch football to forget about racism, bigotry, domestic violence, gaybashing, and any general hate. When I watched football I was inidated with it. What ever happened to just watching a bunch of fellows play their hardest and team spirit?
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 24, 2018:
I havent watched football in two years. First they had the "gay fetish", then they wanted to lecture me about not beating my wife, Then they threw in a bit of racism at the super bowl. I had enough.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 24, 2018:
@BlueWave to open a bag of worms.....
There was a gay football player that was being harrassed by his team mates. It was stupid of the players and the media could not let go of it and the NFL handled it very badly.
There were a few football players that beat their wives so the NFL in its wisdom decided to do public service announcement during the games to tell people not to beat their wives. I did not have a problem with this, They did.
Byonce at the super bowl did a great half time show. The problem was it was all about glorifying the Black Panthers. That was simply racist.I would have been just as offended if someone glorified the KKK.
I wanted to watch football to forget about racism, bigotry, domestic violence, gaybashing, and any general hate. When I watched football I was inidated with it. What ever happened to just watching a bunch of fellows play their hardest and team spirit?
What is your favorite Athiest video?
[youtube.com] Here is mine.
Eazyduzzit comments on Jan 24, 2018:
I love it! It's genuine, moving, insightful and intelligent. I don't have a favorite. I have lots of videos that I love. It would take me forever to tell about them. We'll have to sit down and talk some time.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 24, 2018:
Darkmatter2525 is my favorite for humor and showing irony, sometimes I don't know if it's funny or not.
Theramintrees is the best for understanding theology.
If you are not familiar with them check them out on YouTube
Eazyduzzit comments on Jan 24, 2018:
I love it! It's genuine, moving, insightful and intelligent. I don't have a favorite. I have lots of videos that I love. It would take me forever to tell about them. We'll have to sit down and talk some time.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 24, 2018:
Darkmatter2525 is my favorite for humor and showing irony, sometimes I don't know if it's funny or not.
Theramintrees is the best for understanding theology.
If you are not familiar with them check them out on YouTube
What is your favorite Athiest video?
[youtube.com] Here is mine.
magicwatch comments on Jan 24, 2018:
My access to this video has been blocked on copyright grounds?
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 24, 2018:
I dont know It works for me????
magicwatch comments on Jan 24, 2018:
My access to this video has been blocked on copyright grounds?
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 24, 2018:
I dont know It works for me????
Where should the line be drawn, between religious freedom and mental illness?
buck1977 comments on Jan 23, 2018:
please just let the nutjobs kill themselves off...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 24, 2018:
@buck1977 That is very difficult. If they are suffering from a delusion than they do not know better. We would have to "know" they "knew" better. If someone is mentally Ill they by definition are not sane. If they are suffering from a delusion they are by definition not metally healthy. For this very reason religion is very dangerous. It by special pleading that allows the insane to be considered sane. Even with this understanding the mentally ill are still mentally ill.
buck1977 comments on Jan 23, 2018:
please just let the nutjobs kill themselves off...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 24, 2018:
@buck1977 That is very difficult. If they are suffering from a delusion than they do not know better. We would have to "know" they "knew" better. If someone is mentally Ill they by definition are not sane. If they are suffering from a delusion they are by definition not metally healthy. For this very reason religion is very dangerous. It by special pleading that allows the insane to be considered sane. Even with this understanding the mentally ill are still mentally ill.
I think irony can be really funny.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 24, 2018:
I am disturbed and very upset I did not think of it first...Can I just take credit???
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 24, 2018:
@resserts ooh thank you, I AM GOD!
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 24, 2018:
I am disturbed and very upset I did not think of it first...Can I just take credit???
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 24, 2018:
@resserts ooh thank you, I AM GOD!
Hyper Religiosity, Psychiatry still has no clue. - Atheist Nexus
CrystalKing333 comments on Jan 24, 2018:
I would say for the longest time I struggled with my homosexuality, I even voluntarily placed myself into therapy to "cure" myself of it. It made me incredibly depressed and suicidal, I even attempted to take my own life at the age of fourteen because of all the bullying I suffered from religious ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 24, 2018:
Dude I hope you have accepted that you are human and that those around you do also, from a very straight guy that has a perhaps unhealthy obsession with breast. Don't let them beat you down!
CrystalKing333 comments on Jan 24, 2018:
I would say for the longest time I struggled with my homosexuality, I even voluntarily placed myself into therapy to "cure" myself of it. It made me incredibly depressed and suicidal, I even attempted to take my own life at the age of fourteen because of all the bullying I suffered from religious ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 24, 2018:
Dude I hope you have accepted that you are human and that those around you do also, from a very straight guy that has a perhaps unhealthy obsession with breast. Don't let them beat you down!
Where should the line be drawn, between religious freedom and mental illness?
DUCHESSA comments on Jan 23, 2018:
No sure....specially after this afternoon...when an acquaintance told me that my Atheism offends her.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 24, 2018:
@DUCHESSA I like you
DUCHESSA comments on Jan 23, 2018:
No sure....specially after this afternoon...when an acquaintance told me that my Atheism offends her.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 24, 2018:
@DUCHESSA I like you
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